Phillies' Romero says laziness led to 50-game suspension

Taking a ride in the DeLorean would solve some troubles for Phillies reliever J.C. Romero .

[Bad Mistake]

It is tough to buy into this explanation from Romero.
With the environment as it is now in baseball, you have to make sure as to what "supplements" you are taking.
Whatever happened to working hard and getting the proper rest?
Why all the "supplements" ??
But, it is a gamble these guys take in order to get the big contract. So he is getting docked whatever million, in the long run he is coming out ahead. The team is not but he is.
Especially for a pitcher who the Sox considered washed up but then he comes to the Phillies and is a border line superstar. You tell me what is the difference?

[therookie300]

Bad Mistake wrote:

It is tough to buy into this explanation from Romero.
With the environment as it is now in baseball, you have to make sure as to what "supplements" you are taking.
Whatever happened to working hard and getting the proper rest?
Why all the "supplements" ??
But, it is a gamble these guys take in order to get the big contract. So he is getting docked whatever million, in the long run he is coming out ahead. The team is not but he is.
Especially for a pitcher who the Sox considered washed up but then he comes to the Phillies and is a border line superstar. You tell me what is the difference?

You don't think these guys work hard? It takes an awful lot of commitment to get to and stay in the majors. these guys are paid big bucks to perform well. What's wrong with adding supplements to your daily routine if it increases your effectiveness? I don't see a problem with that. JC might not have researched the product he purchased in depth enough before taking it. The problem I have with it is the general lack of information available to the players. With all the talk of PEDs you would think there was some kind of list somewhere that had EVERY product on it that could cause a red flag on a drug test. I blame the MLB and the MLBPA. These two groups have failed their players when it comes to this topic.

[McLarenM8b]

Romero is a professional sports athelete. He is paid beyond handsomely to play baseball. His salary would make most of us regular worker-joes think we hit the lottery. To that end, I feel no sympathy for his plight. Sure it takes talent and commitment to play in MLB but players are compensated like kings for their play.
Given the level of compensation, Romero(and all other professional sports players)has only himself to blame for this. It's the risk you take when using questionable supplements. It's amazing that the heros of baseball from back in the day never felt they had to take such things and still managed to play great ball.
To Romero's credit, he has taken full responsibility for his actions and isn't playing the blame game like a lot of others.

[Starbucks]

therookie300 wrote:

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You don't think these guys work hard? It takes an awful lot of commitment to get to and stay in the majors. these guys are paid big bucks to perform well. What's wrong with adding supplements to your daily routine if it increases your effectiveness? I don't see a problem with that. JC might not have researched the product he purchased in depth enough before taking it. The problem I have with it is the general lack of information available to the players. With all the talk of PEDs you would think there was some kind of list somewhere that had EVERY product on it that could cause a red flag on a drug test. I blame the MLB and the MLBPA. These two groups have failed their players when it comes to this topic.

Why is it always someone else's fault? No personal responsibility!

[therookie300]

Starbucks wrote:

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Why is it always someone else's fault? No personal responsibility!

I did not say it wasn't his fault. The point I am trying to make is how many places does he have to look to make sure a supplement is safe to take? Why isn't there a more readily available list? That is the fault of the MLB and MLBPA. More so the MLBPA because they are supposed to be looking out for the players.

[therookie300]

McLarenM8b wrote:

Romero is a professional sports athelete. He is paid beyond handsomely to play baseball. His salary would make most of us regular worker-joes think we hit the lottery. To that end, I feel no sympathy for his plight. Sure it takes talent and commitment to play in MLB but players are compensated like kings for their play.
Given the level of compensation, Romero(and all other professional sports players)has only himself to blame for this. It's the risk you take when using questionable supplements. It's amazing that the heros of baseball from back in the day never felt they had to take such things and still managed to play great ball.
To Romero's credit, he has taken full responsibility for his actions and isn't playing the blame game like a lot of others.

Playing baseball is his job. It just pays more than you or I make. If you were good at it you would be looking for the same kind of compensation also. You are a liar if you say otherwise. Other "heroes" of baseball took other kinds of things to supplement their game. For instance Hank Aaron took greenies. I guess we could call him out with the rest of them then. I question the fact why there is not a more readily available list of substances that might get flagged. In this day and age it should be there. THAT is the fault of the people that are supposed to be looking out for the players.

[westender]

baseball players have been popping "greenies" or amphetamines since the 1950's...people who say romero needs more sleep and to work harder do not understand baseball...supplements help you heal faster and speed up your metabolism...when you play 5 games a week for 6 or 7 months you need whatever will keep your body from falling apart...i think if the drugs he bought at gnc are illegal in the mlb then they should be illegal period...

[Baseball Fan Too]

Not good to see you steroids tolerant fans have no problem with these guys taking whatever banned substances and taking the big money and breaking the records. And, it should be up to the individual and not the MLPA or the union to advise them of what is or is not banned. Take some individual responsibility and not blame everyone else for your problems.
Yes, we understand that to be a professional athlete you have to work hard. You also need to continue to work hard and get your rest and do thinkgs legally, not look for the easy route of steroids or illegal substances to all of a sudden become a superstar. What is this teaching the high school and little league players coming through the system now? To take the easy way out and the easy route vs. working hard and doing it the right way.

[therookie300]

Baseball Fan Too wrote:

Not good to see you steroids tolerant fans have no problem with these guys taking whatever banned substances and taking the big money and breaking the records. And, it should be up to the individual and not the MLPA or the union to advise them of what is or is not banned. Take some individual responsibility and not blame everyone else for your problems.
Yes, we understand that to be a professional athlete you have to work hard. You also need to continue to work hard and get your rest and do thinkgs legally, not look for the easy route of steroids or illegal substances to all of a sudden become a superstar. What is this teaching the high school and little league players coming through the system now? To take the easy way out and the easy route vs. working hard and doing it the right way.

It is the unions job to help protect the players. They failed in this regard. How in depth must someone look to find the needed info? In these times this information should be readily available. You have to blame the player for what they put into their body. What happens if they do all the necessary research on the products and looks like it is perfectly acceptable to use and then get flagged for it? They did the research NOT to break the rules and still paid a penalty. This is where the union should be stepping to protect their players. It's their job, isn't it?

[Bad Mistake]

therookie300 wrote:

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It is the unions job to help protect the players. They failed in this regard. How in depth must someone look to find the needed info? In these times this information should be readily available. You have to blame the player for what they put into their body. What happens if they do all the necessary research on the products and looks like it is perfectly acceptable to use and then get flagged for it? They did the research NOT to break the rules and still paid a penalty. This is where the union should be stepping to protect their players. It's their job, isn't it?

Did not Romero say he was lazy in this regard - not finding out all the needed info related to this substance?
Yes, Unions represent workers who normally could not represent themselves in certain situations.
However, Unions would not need to represent workers if they went about things the right way.
My point is, why do they need to use all the supplements and steroids in the first place?
The answer is that they would either be out of baseball or just average if they did not (some players.)
Romero was cut by another team.
Now he is a Phillies stopper.
What happened?
Hopefully, it was due to his skills, hard work and learning some new pitches and not due to some illegal, banned substance.

[McLarenm8b]

therookie300 wrote:

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Playing baseball is his job. It just pays more than you or I make. If you were good at it you would be looking for the same kind of compensation also. You are a liar if you say otherwise. Other "heroes" of baseball took other kinds of things to supplement their game. For instance Hank Aaron took greenies. I guess we could call him out with the rest of them then. I question the fact why there is not a more readily available list of substances that might get flagged. In this day and age it should be there. THAT is the fault of the people that are supposed to be looking out for the players.

Rookie300 - What we are discussing here can have arguments made for both sides. I take offense to being called a liar simply because my point of view differs from yours. You don't know me...you don't know anything about me, yet you have to immediately go for the insults.
You can do better.