O's comeback bid falls short

O's comeback bid falls short

There are 40 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Jul 6, 2008, titled O's comeback bid falls short. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

David Murphy hit a three-run homer, Ian Kinsler got three singles to extend his hitting streak to 18 games, and the Texas Rangers completed a successful road trip by beating the Orioles 11-10 Sunday.

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Bob S

Freedom, ME

#1 Jul 6, 2008
How did Beethoven'[s 5th symphony start?

Trembley should do a commercial for KFC. He sure knows how to 'fry' a bullpen.

Nice job, Liz baby. Baltimore's minor league system sure teaches 'em how to pitch, don't they?

And another pitcher goes down for the count! Loewen is history. Who's next?

On the bright side, we hit the ball today. But our losing Sunday malady still steamrolls along.

“Orioles, Colts, Bullets ”

Since: Apr 08

Brewster, NY

#2 Jul 6, 2008
Melvin Mora ALMOST bought us back. Not quite. I feel bad, but we are still 44-43. The rest of the way, we'll go 42-33, for a record of..........

86 WINS - 76 LOSSES.
HELLOBASEBALLFAN S

AOL

#3 Jul 6, 2008
Unfortunately I have to agree with BOB S - Trembley can fry a bullpen - Bradford does the job in the seventh - so to reward him - you take him out and see if you can wear JJ out ..........this is getting pathetic - when will he learn -
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Bob

Washington, DC

#4 Jul 6, 2008
Again guys pitching is 90% of this game. If you pitch and play defense you win ball games. The last two losses are 2 examples of not playing defense and walking way way way to many batters.Enough of people saying that we are satisfied and are happy the orioles are plaing this well at this team of the year. But in reality outside of guthrie and the 1 out of every 5 games that daniel pitches well we are so over matched in the starting pitching department it isn't even funny. It just goes to show you no matter how good a team hits if you give up 9 walks in a game and give anybody extra outs in the inning you can't win in this game. Until we can get 3 more starters that pitch consistent up here nothing else will ever matter.It all sounds like a broken record but this is what winning in the major league reguires.
Phil

Anniston, AL

#5 Jul 6, 2008
First and foremost, the O's need to send F.Bynum and his errant throwing arm and .187 BA. back to AA Bowie. I could care less what they called it(a fielder's choice) gimme a friggin break!!!!He didn't complete the DP so the Ranger's scored again. Trembley deserves his share of blame for leaving Liz out there to DIE! He was done! As for Loewen, put him on the DL and really consider the minors or flat out release him. I surely thought we could get 50 wins by Allstar break , but unless we can spank Toronto I'm not so sure. Good effort by the team in 8-9th innings. We'll just have to suck this one up.
Old ball player

Prince Frederick, MD

#6 Jul 6, 2008
I hate reading your negative comments about a team that has more upside than down. Yes today we got beaten and we have lost 6 of the last 11 because we don't have a real shortstop and we are still very thin in the starting rotation. Dave Trembley deserves a lot of credit for taking this team and making them competitive. How many of you commenters buried the Os before this season started? If you were one who said this team would be "historically bad", "lose 110 games", or "the worst team in baseball" then you have no business posting your whiny, pea brain, fair weather fan comments. Go root for the Nats. Now there's a team for you. I say go O's... every day...win or lose...and given what we have I am ecstatic that we have a winning record more than halfway through the season.
John

Columbia, MD

#7 Jul 6, 2008
what about Josh hamilton clearly impeding BRobbs path to the ball resulting in a missed out. Hamilton was way out of the base line and prevented the fielder from getting to the ball. Dempsey was saying that there had to be contact. I am not sure that is the rule but regardless Josh was way out of the baseline. Plus Millar should have handled Bynum's poor throw, it hopped 8' in front of him.
Grant dover DE

AOL

#8 Jul 6, 2008
I heard them talking during the game that the orioles are very thin and limited at norfolk if they want to try another starter.. Whose fault is that? They said they wanted to see some young players force them to promote them but they have gone back on that promise.. We have taken 4 starters off norfolk and only one guy has gone up from AA.. I don't care if a guy is only 20 or 22 if they are worthy promote them to AAA or the big club.. Yes Mr. MacPhail we are getting low on lefties close to ML ready especially in AA/AAA.. If you make any july deals that don't include a top SS prospect please get a few close lefties to build up our stock..
Ravens

Manheim, PA

#9 Jul 6, 2008
Oh well,no free tic today.
"VOTE ROBERTS for All-Star game"
schlomo

Royal Oak, MI

#10 Jul 6, 2008
Trembley needs to be a bit more instinctive. He yanks Olson and Burres at the first sign of possible trouble and paints by numbers with his relievers. I hope next year he gets more dynamic. He needs Viagra!
Grant dover DE

AOL

#11 Jul 6, 2008
Where is Matusz we still need pitching we were deep at norfolk but you can't take 4/5 starters plus a couple relievers away and not promote your best from AA. Same with salazaar when he was called up no promotion for montanez or reimold.. We still don't have enough pitching and we can't even see a better SS prospect coming anywhere.. We have to bite the bullet and acquire one.. The fans can live with fayhe and cintron if they know help is on the way next year sometime..
berne

Mardela Springs, MD

#12 Jul 6, 2008
question....trembley has been subject to some criticism on these
blogs for his handling of pitchers. my question--how do the
O's decide who is going to pitch and who is going to relive on
a specific date...does the pitiching coach & the bullpen coach
have input or is the manager who decides??? if someone who
really knows how the O's do this please respond. thanks
Clarence

AOL

#13 Jul 6, 2008
Second half should be interesting but until they sit Mora put Huff at 3rd full time bring Weiters up to DH ( like Weaver did for Murray). Trade Bradford and Patton and maybe get a good AA middle infielder. It will be the same swan song. Don't waste your time with Freddie at short second time he has failed to turn a DP that should have been made.
Old ball player

Prince Frederick, MD

#14 Jul 6, 2008
berne,
You will need to take my word on it that I know how the club management works. The manager relies on primarily the pitching coach. The pitching coach gets input from the bullpen coach and bullpen catcher and the pitchers directly. Some pitchers will try to hide sore or tired arms. The starting pitching staff stays in rotation unless someone can't go that day (i.e. Burres's stomach ache two starts ago). The choice of who comes in for relief, depends on the situation and mostly is determined by the matchup of pitcher to batter (lefty vs lefty & righty vs righty) and what pitcher is well rested. Beyond that the manager and pitching coach clearly have favorites who they have confidence in. The O's situation now is that our starters haven't been going deep enough into the game to avoid overworking the bullpen.
Guy

New Haven, CT

#15 Jul 6, 2008
Ian Kinsler is getting cheated, he has better numbers than that midget dude Dustin Pedroia and he is there as the reserve 2nd Baseman? Bad voting... Ian Kinsler should be the starting 2nd baseman, just goes to show you how greedy boston fans are...
ken baltimore

Baltimore, MD

#16 Jul 6, 2008
Next Home Sunday: If We Lose, You Lose- your temper, your faith, your enthusiasm, your hair.
Maui Guy

Arcadia, CA

#17 Jul 6, 2008
Liz over throwing. Bullpen wasted. Need fresh arms in the rotation. Trade time.

Since: Dec 07

Baltimore, MD

#18 Jul 6, 2008
Sorry to be negative but this was a Terrible game. Scott, Hernandez, Payton 0 for 15 (and I don't think Payton saw 10 pitches). The Orioles players should be proud they are over .500 but it is no thanks to Trembley.

Why was Hernandez batting cleanup? Why can't Dave tell his starter's got nothing today and pull him before he gives them the lead? Why is DT using Loewen so much when Adam is obviously fragile? Why can't Trembley figure out to use Jim Johnson every other day at most? Why can't he leave a pitcher in (F. Cabrera) who seemed to have his stuff? Why can't he shake this team up and motivate them when there defense is now costing them games?

I know it is conventional wisdom in this town to love Dave Trembley but I see the guy who managed that 30-3 loss and another stumble through the second half of the season and I now expect it to happen in 2008.

To be fair I also have to say that if Trembley doesn't get some new players now McPhail will share part of the blame. Let's get rid of some these mediocre players NOW.
Bob S

Freedom, ME

#19 Jul 6, 2008
Old ball player wrote:
I hate reading your negative comments about a team that has more upside than down. Yes today we got beaten and we have lost 6 of the last 11 because we don't have a real shortstop and we are still very thin in the starting rotation. Dave Trembley deserves a lot of credit for taking this team and making them competitive. How many of you commenters buried the Os before this season started? If you were one who said this team would be "historically bad", "lose 110 games", or "the worst team in baseball" then you have no business posting your whiny, pea brain, fair weather fan comments. Go root for the Nats. Now there's a team for you. I say go O's... every day...win or lose...and given what we have I am ecstatic that we have a winning record more than halfway through the season.
You just gave us your opinion, just like we give ours. And that's all it is...one person's thoughts. Just because someone doesn't agree with yours doesn't mean they have a pea-sized brain. Your perspective is different from mine and others. I had the Orioles losing 90 games this season. That wasn't too far-fetched back on March 31st.

The season has three months to go. Based on my own personal observations and experience in the game, I believe the pitching will collapse, due to in no small part, Trembley's mismanagement of the bullpen and his quick hook of the starters.

I'm a realist more than a cheerleader.
Ravens

Manheim, PA

#20 Jul 6, 2008
Guy wrote:
Ian Kinsler is getting cheated, he has better numbers than that midget dude Dustin Pedroia and he is there as the reserve 2nd Baseman? Bad voting... Ian Kinsler should be the starting 2nd baseman, just goes to show you how greedy boston fans are...
Your right, but Varitek on the all-star team is a absolute joke!Evan Longoria deserved to be on the team.
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