Martinez should take a page from Murp...

Martinez should take a page from Murphy's book

There are 17 comments on the Newsday story from May 29, 2009, titled Martinez should take a page from Murphy's book. In it, Newsday reports that:

Fernando Martinez was sitting in front of a locker Friday reading a magazine and chatting with Wilson Valdez.

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Loveland, CO

#1 May 29, 2009
This is one of the most sound, and logical pieces written on the mets in a long while. Instead of giving up a fair bit (in desperation) to a flailing team, let the kid play. I would rather watch Murphy stuggle, and work hard then see some of the malaise and laziness exhibited by other players. Murphy is an example of the game was played in the past, and how it should always be played. With grit, with heart, with effort, with hard work, that is how you build winning baseball. Let the kid play, get a consistent lineup going every night. Fernando Tatis is a solid bench player, but Manual seems to have a love affair with him. Let Murphy play, I love his character and his bat will follow.

Wyandanch, NY

#2 May 29, 2009
This kid Martinez just isn't getting it. He is obviously not ready and needs to be sent back down. When he finally learns the fundamentals of the game (which he should have learned by this point) and stops reading his own press clippings, maybe then - maybe - he can be brought back up again.

As far as the clubhouse decorum, that's for the veterans to enforce, and Wright should have told him in no uncertain terms to get the hell out of his locker.

This team is the soap opera that never ends.

Waukegan, IL

#4 May 30, 2009
I heard Minaya on the FAN talk about lack of hustle. When asked about Reyes he said he runs out the ball "most of the time." What the heck? This is why some Mets are lackadaisical. Because they are not held to account.
Lil Jimmy

Patchogue, NY

#5 May 30, 2009
More anti-white bias in Metland. Remember what happened to LoDuca?

Norwalk, CT

#6 May 30, 2009
The team has no hustle. It's not laziness, it's ego. Martinez should have been sat down for not hustling the other night.

Gil Hodges once slowly walked from the Met dugout to left field to confront Cleon Jones for not hustling on a ball hit for extra bases. Gil escorted Cleon back to the dugout and embarrassed the hell out of him. No Met in '69 ever dogged another play.

Gil was a WWII Marine rifleman. Quiet and gentle but tough as nails. We don't have many men like him anywhere anymore.
New Yorker in Florida

United States

#7 May 30, 2009
Lil Jimmy wrote:
More anti-white bias in Metland. Remember what happened to LoDuca?
Considering what actually has become of LoDuca you should probably pick another example.
That decision seemed to not have been based on any bias other than baseball. But when a person wants to see bias they can find it at every turn. It will consume some while others make their way thru life working past the REAL bias that exists. Knowing that exist but proving yourself is the best way to move forward.

Minaya and Manuel believe in Murphy even as many were clamoring for the Mets to pick up Manny.
But they have this bias. OK.
Hell, I wished I had me some of this bias thrown my way growing up in the Bronx.

Lehigh Acres, FL

#8 May 30, 2009
So this kid, Martinez, thinks it's ok to pull up Wright's chair to chew the fat with someone, huh? What kind of "message" does that send, Jerry? I'll guess: He's a little short on respect. Add in the failed-to-run popup caper, and he's coming across as a bratty teenager. Somebody who cares about him better pull him aside - and soon. Major League clubs do not take kindly to brash rookies. Just ask Scott Kazmir and Lastings Milledge.

Salinas, CA

#9 May 30, 2009
You would think the Mets would assign someone to the rookies who are just brought up to coach them, isn't that what coaches do? Teach players? Murphy is the real deal, I would like to see him play every day, but it's been a struggle for him in the field. I hope they keep him.
Avery Rules

Edison, NJ

#10 May 30, 2009
This team is such a disaster. Sloth gets rewarded and hard work gets punished. Though the kind of stuff that F-Mart pulled was the kind of stuff that got Milledge and Kazmir traded.
Truth Teller

Hackensack, NJ

#11 May 30, 2009
This is one of the best, most insightful articles I've ever seen written here about the Mets.

It's dead on about sitting Murphy after a good game in favor of Tatis, who has done nothing this year.

It's amazing to me, and sad, to see Murphy's career being mishandled by the Mets. The guy is a pure hitter, with an incredible eye at the plate, and the patience of veteran. If played every day, he's a near sure thing to hit .300 and yet, in Met-Land, somehow that's not enough? It's absurd.

How long before the Mets trade Murphy for some aging star? It's looking like that might be the direction they're headed and Met fans will regret that day.

Far as Wright goes...A failure on his part to assert himself and tell that lazy 0-8 rookie to get out of his way.

Another failure too, for the Mets coaching staff...Which should be dragging F-Mart's ass into the batting cage whether he likes it or not.

Wantagh, NY

#12 May 30, 2009
Kids make mistakes, give him a break. He was nervous and was disappointed in himself and wasn't thinking clearly or he would have ran. Martinez is the Mets best prospect in awhile and one of the best in the majors. They have to continue to put him in the line-up.

Martinez should just be himself. If he doesn't want to watch tapes 24/7 like Murphy then he doesn't have to. Players learn in different ways. And besides when Murphy starts to struggle, you can write an article on why he always have a clueless expression on his face.

Murphy may be that above average baseball player while Martinez has superstar potential. Its sad he is playing for the Mets where he is bound to make silly mistakes like he did. And then get attacked non-stop by fans and the media.

Syracuse, NY

#13 May 30, 2009
You and many sports talk show hosts are off base regarding pulling Fernando Martinez. Let the kid play and learn. Apparently, not hustling is not part of his background. He made a mistake and will learn from it. If he does it again, then maybe removing him from the game could be part of the discussion. You guys always want the extreme move. Give the kid a break.
big baby

Paterson, NJ

#14 May 30, 2009
The stuff about Murphy makes sense.

The stuff about Fernando is just total BS. Wow, he's hanging out in the clubhouse... talking to another player. Why isn't Valdez doing something? Oh, because this isn't bootcamp.

Seriously, this is just abusing your access to players and reporting things with no context. Poor.
Rich Yacenda


#15 May 30, 2009
So far so good.Mets can win without DElgado and Reyes, Good mayb those guys now now the hustle never stops.Good move keeping Santos, fiery hustler can play. Castro appeared un motivated and brittle, lazy attitude.After bad start Ramon dfoingoiod job as fillin.Beltran MVp candidate so far.Great work by Pitchers all on em.Mr martinez needs some players to teach him the real score.Take nothing for granted. EARN the job or back to bushes. Criticid Manuel in past, but right now he is .Maybe he is spooked by new field and hard to hit it out??
Georgie Girl

Richboro, PA

#16 May 30, 2009
What the heck is wrong with Mr. Wright???? It's becoming more alarming everyday. Medicore pitchers are blowing him away with medicore stuff. He can't catch up to the fastball anymore. This is a big time problem for my Mets...
Jack of all trades

Brooklyn, NY

#17 May 30, 2009
From the New York Post on April 24, 2007:

Fernando Martinez, the Mets' 18-year-old marvel, was pulled from Sunday's Double-A Binghamton game because he was "not running as hard to first base," according to Mets VP of Player Development Tony Bernazard.

"It's a policy of the organization no matter who it is," said Bernazard, who said he spoke with the outfielder on Sunday.


My take - It's not the first time, so F-Mart is going to have to prove this is not a pattern. Furthermore, shame on Manuel and Minaya for not pulling him * as per organization policy*! He's here to help for two weeks; I'm sure if he played well and hard, he'd make it difficult to send him back to AAA Buffalo, but right now, he'll be going back.

And to F-Mart, who said "I promise that will never happen again. I'm sorry about my fans. I promise that's never happened to me.": Apparently you're a liar AND a guy coming up to the big leagues for the first time DOESN'T HAVE FANS until you prove yourself!
Common Sense

United States

#18 May 31, 2009
Murphy reminds me of a future Keith Hernandez and F Martinez reminds me of a future Strawberry, in style, ability and approach to the game.

Good article David!

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