Perez can't get out of third as Phill...

Perez can't get out of third as Phillies win in 10

There are 73 comments on the Newsday story from May 2, 2009, titled Perez can't get out of third as Phillies win in 10. In it, Newsday reports that:

Imagine how good the Mets could be without Oliver Perez in the rotation. It may be time for the team's management to start thinking that way.

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Jim

AOL

#2 May 2, 2009
Instead of just throwing Ollie out there every fifth day, perhaps they should pull him from the rotation and get someone to work out his problems one on one with him! He's got a live arm so someone should be able to help him!
Takahashi??? OK, great, looks like they've found their man! Good job Omar!!! A 40 year old rookie????? Sheffield, Castillo the chest thumper, etc. Give me a break!!!
HAHAHAHAHA
1986 and counting!
Jason

Elmhurst, NY

#3 May 2, 2009
Ok, time for change. We gave him enough chances to come around. Pelfrey came around & Maine looks to be doing the same. Too bad we need Perez's permission to move him to the minors. Throw him in the bullpen & don't use him for 1 month. Send Green to the minors too. Let's drop the dead weight & make positive moves!
kat

Pompano Beach, FL

#4 May 2, 2009
Jim wrote:
Instead of just throwing Ollie out there every fifth day, perhaps they should pull him from the rotation and get someone to work out his problems one on one with him! He's got a live arm so someone should be able to help him!
Takahashi??? OK, great, looks like they've found their man! Good job Omar!!! A 40 year old rookie????? Sheffield, Castillo the chest thumper, etc. Give me a break!!!
HAHAHAHAHA
1986 and counting!
. Yes Ollie makes 36 million and cant get it done, CC Sabathia makes 160 million and cant it done. Hahahahaha
Jimbooooooooorooooooooni A-Hole look at your Yankees and there issues and get off the Mets board, you MORON
waytogo

Westfield, MA

#5 May 2, 2009
time to get rid of perez, and manuel, and the gm, omar. clean house now....not a few months down the road. otherwise...another mets meltdown.
Robert Cintron

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#6 May 2, 2009
Question: What is the diffrence between the signing of Carl Pavano and Oliver Perez?

Answer: 4 Millions Dollars
LetsPlay2

Lehigh Acres, FL

#7 May 2, 2009
Here's the line on BP "upgrade" Shawn Green:

IP - 12.1
Hits - 18
Earned Runs - 12
ERA - 8.76
BB - 8
HR - 2
Opposition BA -.346

He'll stick around much longer than he should because they have no one else to replace him. They're that thin in the minors.

As for Wildman Perez to the BP, do the Mets really want to bring a guy like him into a tight ballgame? Hardly. The wheels have fallen off; he's strictly mop-up now.

Escaping the David Wright treatment so far is Jose Reyes. After 97 ABs, Reyes has exactly five (5) extra base hits. That's right, five. He is stranding runners at a numbing pace. With just 8 rbi to show for his dozens of appearances with RISP, he is once again killing the Mets at the top of the order. That HOJO can't turn this kid into a gap-type, or consistent opposite field hitter is a disappointment. Batting lefty, the ideal spot for this style, Reyes tries to pull everything. Result: pop-ups, weak groundouts. The press guide lists him at 200 lbs.! Maybe Jose is trying to hit like a heavyweight. Something's gotta change with this key talent.....and soon. It's looking like last September for him.
tntaz

Fremont, CA

#8 May 2, 2009
Nice job by Perez. He sure didn't disappoint. I would rather have a healthy Pavano at $40M than this clown for $36M. How does Omar keep his job?
Wilbur

Staten Island, NY

#9 May 2, 2009
This team is pure garbage ...No Heart and no Grit ...Johanne is the ONLY exception ...I am still trying to figure out how Omar is a G.M...he simply has no clue ..140m payroll for what?...The Marlins G.M. works with a 27m payroll ..wonder how good the Marlins would be if they spent like the Mets ..Omar is clueless ..
VOR

Bronx, NY

#10 May 2, 2009
Minaya's success with the Mets is largely atrributable to their loosening the purse strings to pay out big salaries to Pedro, Delgado, Beltran, Wagner, Alou, Santana, PErez and Castillo. He got lucky with Wright, Maine, and Reyes.

The middle bullpen was dismantled after 2006 in a payroll move, and the team still hasn't recovered.

Time to shift the blame onto Minaya and dump him also.
Clem

AOL

#11 May 2, 2009
he sucks send him down
Jim

AOL

#13 May 2, 2009
VOR wrote:
Minaya's success with the Mets is largely atrributable to their loosening the purse strings to pay out big salaries to Pedro, Delgado, Beltran, Wagner, Alou, Santana, PErez and Castillo. He got lucky with Wright, Maine, and Reyes.
The middle bullpen was dismantled after 2006 in a payroll move, and the team still hasn't recovered.
Time to shift the blame onto Minaya and dump him also.
You're right! The biggest problem with the Mets is Omar!!!
los mets

Yaphank, NY

#14 May 2, 2009
the court has a hearing regarding custody, the judge looks down at the boy and asks if he wants to live with his mother, he says, no my mother beats me, well what about your father, no judge he beats me too. the judge is preplexed and says well who do you want to live with? the boy replys, i want to live with the mets, they dont beat anyone
Frank

Lakewood, NJ

#15 May 2, 2009
Oliver Perez shouldn't be sent down to the minors he should be released from the team. It was a joke to sign an inconsistent pitcher to such a lucrative contract. Minaya you could have paid me $200,000 for 2 years and I could pitch, catch, play any infield or outfield position and give you 150% everyday.
MetsFanInNC

Indian Trail, NC

#16 May 2, 2009
Man oh man... Sean Green is really looking like the second coming of Heilman. The Phillies did everything they could to give this game to the Mets. But the Mets again weren't hungry enough to want it. Real sad and pathetic.
Frank

Lakewood, NJ

#17 May 2, 2009
I forgot to add in there I could also make it past the 3rd inning
Mac

Fremont, CA

#18 May 2, 2009
While Perez was pathetic again, at least Manuel took the ball from him early on. I can't understand why Green was allowed to keep pitching in the 10th after hitting a batter, walking another batter to load the bases, and throwing multiple pitches well out of the zone. He should have been yanked. And why is Sheffield playing in place of Church, when Church has been clutch while Sheffield has been worthless?
William J

London, UK

#19 May 2, 2009
Now how many games do you think Sean Green will lose for us before some overpaid executive decides it's time to send him down? Just enough to put us out of reach of the division or wild card, I bet.
reignman

Brentwood, TN

#20 May 2, 2009
Call me nuts, but I really don't think Beltran or Reyes would mind being traded right now (I'd say the same about Delgado if he wasn't in the last year of his deal -- I doubt he cares either way). They've both hit their ceiling with the Mets, and they both look like they are fed up with all the negativity surrounding the team (some of which is their own fault).

I suspect Omar may finally be coming down to earth about the team he's assembled. His "no edge" remarks are code for "my guys have no stones." Also, unlike last year, he has to worry about empty chairs at Citi.

Absent a significant turnaround, this team will be very active around the trading deadline.
Truth Teller

Freehold, NJ

#21 May 3, 2009
Perez is a symptom of the deeper issue at hand, which is that the Mets organization from GM to manager to coaching staff has failed.

This is evident after watching Perez pitch today as he clearly has no mechanics whatsoever. He has no consistent wind up, pitching motion or release point whatsoever, and under those circumstances, he should not have been sent out to pitch at all.
Truth Teller

Freehold, NJ

#22 May 3, 2009
VOR wrote:
Minaya's success with the Mets is largely atrributable to their loosening the purse strings to pay out big salaries to Pedro, Delgado, Beltran, Wagner, Alou, Santana, PErez and Castillo. He got lucky with Wright, Maine, and Reyes.
The middle bullpen was dismantled after 2006 in a payroll move, and the team still hasn't recovered.
Time to shift the blame onto Minaya and dump him also.
Best post on the Mets history since 2006, bar none.

Omar's dismantling of the 2006 pen should be his legacy to date with the Mets. Somehow, he has avoided being held accountable for taking the 2006 team, which was one tweak (either a starting pitcher or a good bat) away from WS contention and turned them into what they are today.

Omar, despite a few good moves, has consistently failed to recognize the needs of this team from year to year, and needs to be replaced.

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