'Quiet' day on trade front for O's

'Quiet' day on trade front for O's

There are 119 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Jul 31, 2008, titled 'Quiet' day on trade front for O's. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Closing in on one hour before baseball's non-waiver trade deadline and Orioles club president Andy MacPhail termed his day as "quiet." Although trades can go up to today's 4 p.m. deadline, likely the only way ...

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Ghost Oriole

Philadelphia, PA

#1 Jul 31, 2008
And MacPhail said around 2:40 this afternoon that, "I'd be surprised if it did" happen.
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I think we'd all be surprised if the O's front office made some progress.

No hurry. No pressure. Last place is comfortable now that the team's OK with it.

Hey, they cannot go any lower, so anything they do might improve the team's standing. Good strategy. Now, sell it to the faithful....
Jeff

Bridgeport, CT

#2 Jul 31, 2008
Haha, great post Ghost
Fred from Cape Cod

Dennis, MA

#3 Jul 31, 2008
Andy says the trade front is quiet. In this case silence is deafening and defeating. This team as is is lousy as is. By the way, if you can't make any deals, can you at least sign some of your high draft picks. As of this moment 4 of the top 10 picks are unsigned and one of them is a SS. Gee, can anyone think of a team that doesn't have a single SS in its entire system that is of major league calibre?
Donald from Hagerstown

Hagerstown, MD

#4 Jul 31, 2008
The trouble with this team is there are no backups ready to step in and do the job. You trade Roberts then who leads off? You trade Huff then who bats clean-up? You trade Sherill then who is the closer(maybe Johnson)? You trade any of these guys now and you might as well throw in the towel as far as being competitive the rest of the season and they are a competitive team with this roster. They are just not a playoff team for sure. By next season at this time major changes will have to be made because most of the infield will be coming to end of their contracts and most of these guys will be out of the loop.
Character

Glen Burnie, MD

#6 Jul 31, 2008
Ghost = zero baseball knowledge.

Only here to offend - which she/he does well

Noticed you weren't around when the O's won 3 in a row and won the Yankees Series. But like a roach, here you and Boob from Towson are going to out in force again.

Such losers!!
Prospect Expert

Hyattsville, MD

#7 Jul 31, 2008
No trades...

No highly touted international signees...

Unsigned draft picks....

Business as usual in Birdland!!
Ghost Oriole

Philadelphia, PA

#8 Jul 31, 2008
Here come all the defenders of doing nothing!!!

Hey, you guys are winning. The team is in last place, and you're fighting to stand pat.

Congrats on your victory. I have a feeling you'll be happy for years to come.
Fred from Cape Cod

Dennis, MA

#9 Jul 31, 2008
Donald from Hagerstown wrote:
The trouble with this team is there are no backups ready to step in and do the job. You trade Roberts then who leads off? You trade Huff then who bats clean-up? You trade Sherill then who is the closer(maybe Johnson)? You trade any of these guys now and you might as well throw in the towel as far as being competitive the rest of the season and they are a competitive team with this roster. They are just not a playoff team for sure. By next season at this time major changes will have to be made because most of the infield will be coming to end of their contracts and most of these guys will be out of the loop.
Donald: How is this team competitive? They are a lock for last place in the A.L. East. There is no way this team will finish .500. Their farm system a few years back was ranked the worse in all of baseball by Baseball America. Is the system better? Are they rebuilding the farm? Absolutely. Are they even close to finishing that process? As of today, their 7 farm teams are a collective 22 games under .500.We all know today is the deadline for only non-waiver deals. But Roberts, Sherrill, Scott, and possibly Huff won't clear waivers and they are the only guys who will bring something valuable in return.
Prospect Expert

Hyattsville, MD

#10 Jul 31, 2008
Keep Trying wrote:
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You are an ASSSSHOLE! Tell me how you disagree that more players won't be available in the off season. Teams that are in contention aren't going to unload their good players now stupid. How do you know what was offered? You know NOTHING!
You've got to be kidding me. Not offer 'good young players now'?!!! Look at what Billy Beane did: he hosed the Phillies. Shapiro, too, usually gets good young players in deals.

Why don't you do some research before posting? Also, you're lucky you aren't banned for using that kind of language.

I could cut you down but I'm above that.
Jon

Tempe, AZ

#11 Jul 31, 2008
Andy will not make a deal unless it fits the plan. He was not offered the young talent consistent with the plan, so he keeps the valuable players until the off-season, when teams in contention now will be more willing to part with talent. Andy asked us to be patient, but clearly, many of you just don't get it.
Keep Trying

Pleasanton, CA

#12 Jul 31, 2008
Ghost Oriole wrote:
Here come all the defenders of doing nothing!!!
Hey, you guys are winning. The team is in last place, and you're fighting to stand pat.
Congrats on your victory. I have a feeling you'll be happy for years to come.
Why don't you and Prospect "Expert" take a Greyhound bus to Canada. I'll supply everyone with the kitchen knives!
Ghost Oriole

Philadelphia, PA

#13 Jul 31, 2008
Andy will not make a deal unless it fits the plan. He was not offered the young talent consistent with the plan, so he keeps the valuable players until the off-season, when teams in contention now will be more willing to part with talent. Andy asked us to be patient, but clearly, many of you just don't get it.
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So, if he never gets the offer he wants, nothing ever happens.

Cool. Glad to know there's a plan. That plan sounds awesome.

Looking forward to great things. I'm planning on living another 157 years.
Keep Trying

Pleasanton, CA

#14 Jul 31, 2008
Prospect Expert wrote:
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You've got to be kidding me. Not offer 'good young players now'?!!! Look at what Billy Beane did: he hosed the Phillies. Shapiro, too, usually gets good young players in deals.
Why don't you do some research before posting? Also, you're lucky you aren't banned for using that kind of language.
I could cut you down but I'm above that.
MacPhail already hosed two teams in deals in the preseason. How many times do you expect that to happen in one year. You people aren't being reasonable that's why you're attacked, not because we don't want to see trades to get younger talent. Go ahead ban me, whatever, tough guy!
Ghost Oriole

Philadelphia, PA

#15 Jul 31, 2008
Keep Trying---

Well at least we know you're not the team's GM. He would never choose "Keep Trying" as a moniker.

Maybe "Not trying" but not "Keep trying".

I think it's cool that MacPhail showed all those other GM's who is boss. Hahahaha. That'll teach 'em to try and trade with Baltimore!
Walt

Bonita Springs, FL

#16 Jul 31, 2008
Some of you fools make me laugh.... you think by trading vets now that we'll receive adequate compensation. You think because we are in dead last that that alone is suffucient reason to just give away what lil talent we have. Quite honestly AM did a GREAT job this past off season so I believe if he didn't receive some players of value in return there was and is not a need to just dump what we do have. We all agree on who has to go for the most part but this is the trade deadline, not Christmas where the O's give out "presents" to other teams.

If you're that dissatisfied with the O's then just go root for some other team. You idiots are starting to REALLY bore the rest of us with your nonsense.
Danny

Baltimore, MD

#17 Jul 31, 2008
I don't understand all of you on here blasting the Front Office to not making any trades. Should Andy just trade someone to make a trade? Why should we trade someone with some value for a bunch of no talent players (notice how I didn't even say prospects). I am not happy with the talent on this team and in the minors but does it make sense to trade someone for talent for nothing? You people are funny!
Rebuilding

Edgewater, MD

#18 Jul 31, 2008
This is a double-edged sword situation for Andy McPhail. What happens if he forces a trade for Sherrill and the return is crap. Then all these people attacking him now will criticize him for making the deal. If he dosen't well what is happening now. I like how McPhail is steady with his demands. I think the big hold up is that nobody wants to trade prospects anymore. I go to about 30 games a year and I would much wrether wait then force deals. Then we will end up like the crappy team we had years and years before.
Qstorm376

Washington, DC

#19 Jul 31, 2008
Again - Baltimore does NOT have anyone on their 25 man roster that ANYONE wants. Other teams have to show interest - they haven't.

Unless it's Markakis, Jones or Roberts.

Maybe we should move Weiters now - before it's too late.
Donald from Hagerstown

Hagerstown, MD

#20 Jul 31, 2008
Fred from Cape Cod wrote:
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Donald: How is this team competitive? They are a lock for last place in the A.L. East. There is no way this team will finish .500. Their farm system a few years back was ranked the worse in all of baseball by Baseball America. Is the system better? Are they rebuilding the farm? Absolutely. Are they even close to finishing that process? As of today, their 7 farm teams are a collective 22 games under .500.We all know today is the deadline for only non-waiver deals. But Roberts, Sherrill, Scott, and possibly Huff won't clear waivers and they are the only guys who will bring something valuable in return.
All your points are true in spades. My point was trade Roberts, Huff, Sherill now and you won't replace them with anyone any better for this year. Except for shortstop, the positions are locked in for the rest of the season whether we like it or not. Do you actually think they are going to make a trade for a lets say hot shot third baseman and set Mora on the bench with his hugh contract? Its not going to happen.
next year guy

AOL

#21 Jul 31, 2008
Ghost Oriole wrote:
Keep Trying---
Well at least we know you're not the team's GM. He would never choose "Keep Trying" as a moniker.
Maybe "Not trying" but not "Keep trying".
I think it's cool that MacPhail showed all those other GM's who is boss. Hahahaha. That'll teach 'em to try and trade with Baltimore!
Delaware, hmmmmmmmm. What is your team again? Boring state. Even more boring is you dude. sad..lonely and boring. Go try a Romance room. Those women will think you are the last pork chop on the plate lover.

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