It's not that scientific? Wins create...

It's not that scientific? Wins create chemistry

There are 23 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Sep 25, 2008, titled It's not that scientific? Wins create chemistry. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The debate over what a leader is and who is allowed be called one is so much noise right now, just as any discussion of team chemistry is a moot point.

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ron in hudson

Menomonie, WI

#1 Sep 25, 2008
No Morrisey, it probably is over. Especially if you think it isn't.
Ron Munry

Peoria, AZ

#2 Sep 25, 2008
What an ebarassment this team is for the city of Chicago. The biggest series of the year and they lose all 3 games. For once I will agree with Cabrerra they are weak and have no killer instinct. Griffey Jr 0-3, Wise 0-5, Konerko 0-5, AJ 0-3, Dye 1-4, and Ramirez 1-4 grand total 2-24 and thats not embarassing?
They should not be looked at as a contender for any championship
much less the World Series. They don't want it plain and simple and the fans should stay home. The Twins have always had their number and will continue to have their number.
Great job Kenny, great job Ozzie!!
RM
bill

Wayne, IL

#3 Sep 25, 2008
It doesn't mean its over?!! Who are you kidding, Morrissey?

PJW

“Ta da!!!”

Since: Jan 08

Alexandria

#4 Sep 25, 2008
Well, the main point is that chemistry is irrelevant. Lots of team with horrible chemistry win championships. The Yankee dynasties in the 1920's, 1950's and 1970's were filled with players who hated each other. More recently, the 1980's Mets and Cardinals were great examples of brawls waiting to happen: but lots of rings to go with that.

The fact that you hate your teammate is pretty darn irrelevant in baseball: you still try to get hits, you still try to score runs, you still try to field the ball, and you still try to throw strikes.

That being written, the ChiSox are in serious trouble. In the last month, the opposition has outscored them by 31 runs. They've been incredibly lucky to go 11-16 in that time: they've been getting lucky and winning a close games while getting stomped in their loses. Teams that specialize in winning close games rarely make post-season: and in the rare cases when they do, they almost always are eliminated right away by teams that specialize in winning comfortably.
cowboys fan

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#5 Sep 26, 2008
BYE BYE Ozzie
Hmm

United States

#6 Sep 26, 2008
Unfortunately I have to say they are done. Minnesota ends its season with 3 at KC. They will take at least 2 games. This means the Sox need to win at least 3 of 4 to get in. That's not going to happen against Cleveland and Detroit.

In the end, the pitching was just not good enough, and the hitting was generally disappointed during the year. Pitching was lights out the first month, but we couldn't hit. If we hit then we would have 5 more wins, easily.

The injuries were too much to overcome. Contreras gone, and the 5th starter has since been a rotation of one bad pitcher after next. Vasquez can't win anything. The only reason we were anywhere was because Floyd and Danks had big years. Quentin gone hurt. Crede gone hurt. We'd easily have 5 more wins if everyone was healthy. Jenks out for a while, Linebrink gone for a month.

Except for Quentin, Dye and Ramirez most of the year, our hitting was terrible. Orlando was bad, then turned it on. Swisher never did anything. Konerko was terrible. Thome can't hit except for power. Griffey can't do it anymore. Quentin screwed us by being a hothead and breaking his wrist. His replacements haven't done anything. Uribe might have played a nice third base but he still hits below the Mendoza line.

The bullpen is terrible. No one can get anyone out. Jenks was pitching 3 innings last night precisely because Ozzie doesn't think anyone else can do it.

Even if the sox made it into the playoffs, it would be one and done. Minnesota will be one and done again too. They are not a great team, but the Sox seem to think they are.
Bek-Down State Illinois

United States

#7 Sep 26, 2008
Lets give this team the credit they deserve. Awesome year!!! How many days in 1st??!! The ride isn't over and I am thrilled to be going along. They have showed all year what they are made of, what they can do! Thanks!!! It's been great and I'm looking forward to the play offs. Their destiny is in their hands & bats. I beleive. And whatever the outcome is after Tuesday, Go Sox !!!!
Tom

Mooseheart, IL

#8 Sep 26, 2008
Bye Bye Orlando Cabclubhousecancerrera
BFR

La Grange, IL

#9 Sep 26, 2008
Agreed. We got this. We've got them right where we want them. Now all we have to do is sweep Cleveland, beat Detroit and beat Minnesota and we're fine. Cliff Lee is a totally overrated pitcher. Bring on his 28-1 record on Sunday or whatever it is. GO SOX!!!!!!!!!! Nicely done fellas :-)
inaz

Tucson, AZ

#10 Sep 26, 2008
HA HA!

GO TWINS!

The dome might be a prison but the criminals reside in the southside!

Hey, AJ... BOOYAH!

Kenny Williams is a liar and a loser!
inaz

Tucson, AZ

#11 Sep 26, 2008
Dear Sox fans,
I giveth and I taketh away...

I gave you that win over the Rays when AJ shoulder bumped the Rays infielder during the rundown. You should have taken advantage of that play and that win, because I always come back to be repaid!

Sincerely,
KARMA!
Dude

United States

#12 Sep 26, 2008
It's over. They are not good enough.
inaz

Tucson, AZ

#13 Sep 26, 2008
BFR wrote:
Agreed. We got this. We've got them right where we want them. Now all we have to do is sweep Cleveland, beat Detroit and beat Minnesota and we're fine. Cliff Lee is a totally overrated pitcher. Bring on his 28-1 record on Sunday or whatever it is. GO SOX!!!!!!!!!! Nicely done fellas :-)
"We've got them right where we want them."

BLAH HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!
TcMaNiA

San Francisco, CA

#14 Sep 26, 2008
We're going to win Twins, we're going to win !
purpleguy

Wayzata, MN

#15 Sep 26, 2008
Build on a loss? This may be what the Sox need? Are you flipping kidding me? Teams win or lose cause they're better or more talented than the other team individually and as a team, not because they say the right crap in the clubhouse before and after the game. At least Ozzie and AJ call it like they see it and don't offer up a bunch of new age mental exercises like this stupid column.
Tiny Litess

Elk River, MN

#16 Sep 26, 2008
Twins play at home 3 vs KC not on the road.

Look at the Twins Organization since 2000. 8 years in every race every year with all home grown talent. And by the way different players all along the way. Small market geniuses

Donít underestimate organization style, team building and comradely. Spend 6 months around a bunch of jerks and egos, come on makes a BIG difference.
Gimy

Indianapolis, IN

#17 Sep 26, 2008
no, you have it backwards. CHEMISTRY creates wins. see the 2005 team for that. they didn't even have near the talent as some of the other teams but won on having each other's backs, being laid back...and of course, clutch hitting.

"too much is being put on the messenger". it's the messenger, not the words, people respect and listen to. if MLK were alive today...giving a speech about equal rights...everybody would listen. do you think, even if they're the SAME words...that george w would have the same impact? no. because it's not the words, its THE MAN. the OC doesn't hold the same prestige as say, AJ...or Ozzie, or Paulie. when they speak, teammates listen. the OC just sounds like a rambling wanna be leader. a few games left and now all of a sudden he wants to step up? sorry, but thats not how leaders work...and when guys ALL OF A SUDDEN start chit chatting about "the truth"...it further alienates them. look for articles next year about how the sox really feel about cabrera once he's not resigned. i expect ozzie to light him up the second he's gone...and tell the "truth".
JMP

Indianapolis, IN

#18 Sep 26, 2008
TcMaNiA wrote:
We're going to win Twins, we're going to win !
Actually, it's: We're gonna win Twins, we're gonna score

Not to nitpick or anything, just saying...

Since: Feb 08

Big Lake, MN

#19 Sep 26, 2008
Anyone else find it ironic that the ads from Google are for Cub playoff tickets? I'm just saying.
AnotherTinStPaul

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Sep 26, 2008
The Sox and their fans alike must be at their wits end. So many of them are saying what Morrisey says time and again in this article: We can still do this. You know what that is? That's called 'buying solely into the hope of one last chance and that if we play perfect, I won't have to feel so terrible about the monster choke job we displayed in Minnesota.'

Morrisey, time to be a little honest. You can say the Sox can still pull this off, which is a fact, but shouldn't there be the slightest bit of worry to your writing? Couldn't you at least acknowledge that you're up against it?

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