Jena Six Rally in Baltimore

[Supporter]

I'm amazed at the amounts of people in baltimore that are not aware of the Jena Six. Visit www.naacp.org for the facts. There is also rallies scheduled today:

12- 1:30PM at Coppin State University
2500 W. North Avenue

7- 9PM at New Shiloh Baptist Church
2100 N. Monroe Street

[ABC2News]

http://www.abc2news.com/news/local/story.aspx...

[ABC2News]

http://www.abc2news.com/news/local/story.aspx...

[Supporter]

Still time to make the evening rally.

[Dee Ellahr]

Folks,

As I drove into Trenton, NJ today, where I work, I noticed that many of those who live in the poorer neighborhoods, who don't have access to the Internet and who don't follow the media, are totally unaware or "disconnected" from what is going on in Jena, LA. It was at that point, that I realized that it is up to us who are "connected" to get the word out on the Jena 6 case, by means of grassroots efforts: Flyers and word of mouth in our communities. Also, everyone reading this post, if you have not done so, please read George Orwell's book "1984," and recommend it to every one you know. It is a prophetic fiction novel written over 50 years ago, that describes the state of present-day America.

[Stan]

So getting angry and beating the living crap out of someone because they were the wrong skin color is acceptable? that's justice? what would be the response if it was six white kids beating the crap out of a black of latino kid? would you feel the same way then? and you don't think you're racist? Please wake up and face delusions head on and honest at least with yourself.

[Supporter]

Stan wrote:

So getting angry and beating the living crap out of someone because they were the wrong skin color is acceptable? that's justice? what would be the response if it was six white kids beating the crap out of a black of latino kid? would you feel the same way then? and you don't think you're racist? Please wake up and face delusions head on and honest at least with yourself.

Well that did happen with Noah from Pasadena was killed. And what happened. Nothing! The kids claimed it was self-defense. How is it self-defense when you have more than 5 kids kicking you in the head. How much time did they get. None! Mr Bell didn't kill anyone and he may spend alot of time in jail. The white kids commited crimes also during this whole thing. How much time they get. None! Do YOU call that justice.

[Tom]

Supporter wrote:

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Well that did happen with Noah from Pasadena was killed. And what happened. Nothing! The kids claimed it was self-defense. How is it self-defense when you have more than 5 kids kicking you in the head. How much time did they get. None! Mr Bell didn't kill anyone and he may spend alot of time in jail. The white kids commited crimes also during this whole thing. How much time they get. None! Do YOU call that justice.

I'm not familiar with the incident you provide so I will take your word that you are accurate. that being the case, what you propose is revenge not justice. AND the incident you provide is not the reason the "Jena 6" perpetuated their hate crime against a white individual. As your reasoning goes, is it then ok to have another group of white morons beat the crap out of a black kid because of the actions of the "Jena 6"? If that's so, where does it end? "two wrongs don't make a right" and does nothing to resolve the issue, just perpetuates more hate and distrust. For true justice to be fair it must remain blind and IGNORE COLOR ON BOTH SIDES and deal with the crime. How many times must the infantile finger pointing take place before you end up with a truly uncontrollable catastrophe occur? How many times will the politicians and charletans push that emotional button for their financial gain before EVERYBODY pulls their collective head from their butt and say "ENOUGH"?

[Supporter]

Tom wrote:

<quoted text>I'm not familiar with the incident you provide so I will take your word that you are accurate. that being the case, what you propose is revenge not justice. AND the incident you provide is not the reason the "Jena 6" perpetuated their hate crime against a white individual. As your reasoning goes, is it then ok to have another group of white morons beat the crap out of a black kid because of the actions of the "Jena 6"? If that's so, where does it end? "two wrongs don't make a right" and does nothing to resolve the issue, just perpetuates more hate and distrust. For true justice to be fair it must remain blind and IGNORE COLOR ON BOTH SIDES and deal with the crime. How many times must the infantile finger pointing take place before you end up with a truly uncontrollable catastrophe occur? How many times will the politicians and charletans push that emotional button for their financial gain before EVERYBODY pulls their collective head from their butt and say "ENOUGH"?

I am by no means suggesting revenge. I brought up the case to make a point that those things do happen to the previous response. Jena 6 has nothing to do with the other boy. But it goes to show how screwed up our justice system is. My point is this, do a crime-go to jail black or white. The rules should be the same for everyone right? In this case the rules only apply to the Jena 6. That's what this whole debate is about. If the justice system would have punished everyone, and I mean everyone for all the other racial motivated events I would have been all for it. White beat up black- get charged, hang nooses-get charged, start fights in school- get suspended or expelled, black beat up white-get charged. Simple, not hard at all. Put Jena makes it hard when they have distorted thoughts of race from the begining.

[Tom]

Supporter wrote:

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I am by no means suggesting revenge. I brought up the case to make a point that those things do happen to the previous response. Jena 6 has nothing to do with the other boy. But it goes to show how screwed up our justice system is. My point is this, do a crime-go to jail black or white. The rules should be the same for everyone right? In this case the rules only apply to the Jena 6. That's what this whole debate is about. If the justice system would have punished everyone, and I mean everyone for all the other racial motivated events I would have been all for it. White beat up black- get charged, hang nooses-get charged, start fights in school- get suspended or expelled, black beat up white-get charged. Simple, not hard at all. Put Jena makes it hard when they have distorted thoughts of race from the begining.

We pretty much are saying the same thing except for one small, but important aspect: you are willing to let pass the Jena 6 crime because past crimes were wrongfully adjuducated...so, just when would you like to begin enforcing the law across the board? why wait?

[Supporter]

After this wrong has been corrected. Go back and correct your mistake. They still have time, limitations aren't up. Play hard ball with all of them or none of them.

[Tom]

Supporter wrote:

After this wrong has been corrected. Go back and correct your mistake. They still have time, limitations aren't up. Play hard ball with all of them or none of them.

So you are advocating revenge to set the books straight: "don't enforce equal law until after this revenge has been satisfied"? AND only then do we begin punishing anybody..does it need to be a specific color of skin as well or just the next incident? do we condone black on white crime and condemn white on black crime only? And by the way: wasn't my mistake. So then can we continue to go back and "nail" those that perpetuated hate crimes regardless of race or do we just stop at white criminals only? AGAIN: you want revenge not justice

[Tom]

An afterthought: If you feel the judicial system is so screwed up, then why condone beating the crap out of someone that's not part of the judicial system? go after the courts not some random individual on the street just because of his skin color and you "can't get any justice" from the system; that's just as wrong.

[Supporter]

Revenge-where are you getting this from. I want equal justice. Your mistake-not you personally- your as in the prosecutor or justice system. The law do it all the time. Realize what really happened and go arrest others. Okay, Do you think the case against the six taking in consideration everything you know and read, have some civil rights violations? I do, so does thousands others of all races. Congress wouldn't even be looking at it if it was nothing. Yes, set the books straight, then enforce law on the very next person who get out of line black or white. Don't condone any criminal activity. Stop slapping criminals on the hand and laugh about it. Stop them dead in their tracks.

[Tom]

Supporter wrote:

Revenge-where are you getting this from. I want equal justice. Your mistake-not you personally- your as in the prosecutor or justice system. The law do it all the time. Realize what really happened and go arrest others. Okay, Do you think the case against the six taking in consideration everything you know and read, have some civil rights violations? I do, so does thousands others of all races. Congress wouldn't even be looking at it if it was nothing. Yes, set the books straight, then enforce law on the very next person who get out of line black or white. Don't condone any criminal activity. Stop slapping criminals on the hand and laugh about it. Stop them dead in their tracks.

If there was violation of their civil rights, fine, make that correction; but any violation of their civil rights doesn't entitle them to a free pass on committing a criminal act. Would your opinion be any different if it were your relative that was beaten and then the criminal walks away free not because they're innocent but because of some violation of the CIVIL rights?

[Tom]

I don't know if there was a violation of their civil rights. you have already judged that based on the skin color of the individuals involved. Same mentality that had people all over the place yelling to quit persecuting Michael Vick; even the VA prosecutor accused the government of racism for pursuing the case....WHICH HE CONFESSED TO! And how about the rush to judgement on the students accused of rape in the Duke LaCrosse incident...they were found to be innocent after their lives were destroyed!! talk about victimizing and violating rights. There are no innocents here. It's time to stop the justifying of this kind of nonsense.

[Tom]

I have no problem prosecuting the indiviuals that are accused of violating their civil rights. If they are found guilty then they should be in the jail cell next to the criminals that committed the criminal act, if/when they are convicted in a legal court of law; not on the street. Just because they had their civil rights violated doesn't mean they shouldn't stand trial for their criminal actions.

[Supporter]

I was just as outraged about the Duke players. I'm glad justice prevailed. I felt as though the stripper was lying. Vick did it oh well, go to jail. Now if you tell me that there are other cases that were never brought to trial or that other's only get misdeamors, then I'm going to wonder why he has to do 5 years. I'm going to wonder is it because he's famous, nfl, or his race. Yes I'm going to question it. What's nonsense is that people will not admit that this case has been handled incorrectly. Oh well yeah we screwed up with the other arrest but we are going to throw the book at you. Sorry not so. Like I said before, punish them for the crimes committed while remembering rules are for everyone. I have a relative that's in a similar situation. Right is Right. Our justice system is full of loopholes. This is a violation plain and simple.

[Tom]

So, if we don't throw the book at the criminals because their civil rights were violated, what makes it proper to throw the book at the next case when you can point back to this one (as you do now with the past to justify them walking away from their criminal actions) and say "see you didn't do anything then, you can't do anything now!...My point being it has to stop and now is a good time for our society to swallow the bitter pill and own up to reality and accept the truth and stop the garbage and start doing what everybody knows is right...(replay of Rodney King: Criminal that walks because a couple of moronic cops violated his civil rights; doesn't mean he wasn't guilty of his crime and should have been in jail along with the cops)

[Supporter]

You speak as though the other incidents were of the past. It was not. They are all related. Our whole system is based on past cases, previous rulings and judgements.

Let the boy go, give him probation and community service. Have all of them clean the school together while tied together. Give the other boys the same. Stop putting all the blame in one place. Start with the parents. You said when do we start, just like with anything else, after you clean up your mess.

I understand your point but you refuse to see mine. But I get that and it's okay.