Levy pulls more cops from state roads

Levy pulls more cops from state roads

There are 347 comments on the Newsday story from Sep 15, 2008, titled Levy pulls more cops from state roads. In it, Newsday reports that:

Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy removed all county police officers from patrol duty on the Long Island Expressway and Sunrise Highway at 10 a.m. Monday morning, the capstone in his battle to force the State ...

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safety

Englewood, CO

#1 Sep 15, 2008
Why are the sheriff's doing the job of the SCPD? You are out of your mind Levy
Greatmovedummie

Brooklyn, NY

#2 Sep 15, 2008
Now when the Sheriffs go for a new contract they can add parity to their side.
100k a year for the sheriffs now too.
IMPEACH LEVY
DUH

Brooklyn, NY

#3 Sep 15, 2008
WHAT AN ASS, for $42000 he jepordizes the motoring public. Highway has decades of experience handling the interstate, the deputies are want to be cops, no offense, that have no clue what they are doing up there. The deputies write a few tickets up there, that doesn't mean they know how to handle a major interstate.When the first one gets killed because they dont know what they are doing up there the public will see what a jerk this guy is. It shouldn't take a disaster to wake up to it though. Levy thinks you can run public safety like a KMART, Dormer keeps calling policing the "police business", law enforcement is not a business and you can't run it like one. When businesses fail they just go out away, when law enforcement fails people die.

Just as an aside, Highway Patrol was the backbone of Intoxilizer testing, without an expert giving the test and expert testimony DWI cases will end up as acquittals. Because Levy doesn't know anything about how to run a police dept and Dormer and his hand picked puppets haven't the backbone to tell him so the Intoxilizer testing and testimony essential to DWI prosecutions are in jeopardy. The brass are clueless as to how to handle this, look at the conviction rate in about 12 months when the future cases go to trial and you will see the acquittal rate skyrocket. MADD and the DA's office should be all over this.
REALITY

Peekskill, NY

#6 Sep 15, 2008
DUH wrote:
WHAT AN ****, for $42000 he jepordizes the motoring public. Highway has decades of experience handling the interstate, the deputies are want to be cops, no offense, that have no clue what they are doing up there. The deputies write a few tickets up there, that doesn't mean they know how to handle a major interstate.When the first one gets killed because they dont know what they are doing up there the public will see what a jerk this guy is. It shouldn't take a disaster to wake up to it though. Levy thinks you can run public safety like a KMART, Dormer keeps calling policing the "police business", law enforcement is not a business and you can't run it like one. When businesses fail they just go out away, when law enforcement fails people die.
Just as an aside, Highway Patrol was the backbone of Intoxilizer testing, without an expert giving the test and expert testimony DWI cases will end up as acquittals. Because Levy doesn't know anything about how to run a police dept and Dormer and his hand picked puppets haven't the backbone to tell him so the Intoxilizer testing and testimony essential to DWI prosecutions are in jeopardy. The brass are clueless as to how to handle this, look at the conviction rate in about 12 months when the future cases go to trial and you will see the acquittal rate skyrocket. MADD and the DA's office should be all over this.
Stop crying you little wussy. You'll still be able to get your donuts. You lose your "TEAT" now your're all upset. Become a real cop
stop whining

Denver, CO

#7 Sep 15, 2008
how about getting the INS or ICE to patrol the streets that way they can arrest and deport unlicensed illegal immigrants right away avoiding jail time....
hey now

Old Greenwich, CT

#8 Sep 15, 2008
its $42000 per officer....not overall. Also, the Sheriffs office has intoxilizer trained officers. They have for years.
Levy- biggest bone head

Brooklyn, NY

#9 Sep 15, 2008
Sheriff Demarco says " All I care about is that the public is safe", it's nice to know that someone in Suffolk County gov't cares. This move is clearly negligence on the part of the county executive. It is a clear disregard for the public safety, he has created a grave risk of death or serious physical injury to another that a reasonable person would recognize and disregarded the risk. Mr. Spota isn't that against the law?

When the law suits come in the county attorney should refuse to imdemnify Levy and the entire police command staff from damages by virture of their "expertise." They should all know this will end in tragedy. Levy can still claim ignorance which is obvious to everyone except the police brass. They can only claim lack of backbone in standing up to Levy and using their "experience" to tell him this is a ticking bomb.
Is the loss of one's spine in pursuit of a promotion a job related injury? If so there will be a lot of disability pensions awarded up in Yaphank headquarters.
Aodh

Smithtown, NY

#10 Sep 15, 2008
I think the Sheriff office is great but they simply do not have the experience to handle the situations that occur on the LIE. My understanding is that the Sheriff's office is mainly responsible for handling civil matters and transporting prisoners. Hopefully their inexperience will not endanger the general public and the Sheriff Deputies themselves.
Levy- biggest bone head

Brooklyn, NY

#11 Sep 15, 2008
hey now wrote:
its $42000 per officer....not overall. Also, the Sheriffs office has intoxilizer trained officers. They have for years.
I'd like to know how many cases a year they testify on and what is the conviction rate? The fact that the sheriffs office has testing officers is another area to investigate. Its a duplication of services that cost the taxpayers money. The sheriffs primary duties as they exist in Suffolk are service of subpoenas, orders of protection and evictions. The handful of cases the sheriffs office has tested does not come close to the tens of thousands of cases Highway cops have testified on.
chenz

New York, NY

#12 Sep 15, 2008
levy and suozzi.........stupid is as stupid does
DUH

Brooklyn, NY

#13 Sep 15, 2008
Aodh wrote:
I think the Sheriff office is great but they simply do not have the experience to handle the situations that occur on the LIE. My understanding is that the Sheriff's office is mainly responsible for handling civil matters and transporting prisoners. Hopefully their inexperience will not endanger the general public and the Sheriff Deputies themselves.
I agree, I mean no disrespect to the deputies. They are great at what they do day in and day out. Levy thinks because they have uniforms, guns and cars with lights and sirens they can instantly do anything that full time police officers do. It is simply not the case.

By the way, since the sheriff's office seems to always have a huge overtime budget due to its lack of manpower, I assume they will be paying overtime for deputies to patrol the LIe and RT 27. That will quickly wipe out the $42000 per man, unless they will patrol in between delivering subpeonas and orders of protection.
John

Brooklyn, NY

#15 Sep 15, 2008
The Sheriffs are just doing what the are told to do. I am sure those cops do not want to go onto the LIE and try and get control of the expressway. I am all for SCPD to do it maybe they can take a pay cut of 42,000 dollars and they can get there road back
smarter

Brooklyn, NY

#17 Sep 15, 2008
lets see ,how about we put a patrol car at every exit in both directions, and put those Vehicle Saftey Units , spread out equaly from nys 110 to the end xof the interstate 495 ,oh that used to be NYS495 and see how long it take the governer to call down and complain that his constichuants are being inconveinanceed, and you boss , ask him if he could lend some help with the state troopers. tell him you've got a big problem. there is more gas being burn by big ... SUV's and Farmers in pickup trucks than in all the working mans trucks a the hockey mom's vans, tell him its out of control.
New York NY

New York, NY

#18 Sep 15, 2008
Levy is right. NY state needs to treat Long Island the same as the rest of the state. Why should Long Island not be entitled to services the rest of the state gets? Frankly, this should have been done a long time ago.
Poor Written Artlicle

Seaford, NY

#20 Sep 15, 2008
Hey Newsday...

Is that savings $42,000 per officer, per year, per month, per day?

You're article is incomplete. My 3rd grade daughter writes more complete articles...
Hmmm

Brooklyn, NY

#21 Sep 15, 2008
safety wrote:
Why are the sheriff's doing the job of the SCPD? You are out of your mind Levy
Would you rather he raise our taxes? To me it would seem that he's crunching numbers and sees that its cheaper to use a Deputy Sheriff than a police officer. Sheriffs are trained in Highway Patrol, so what's the problem?
Hmmm

Brooklyn, NY

#22 Sep 15, 2008
DUH wrote:
<quoted text>I agree, I mean no disrespect to the deputies. They are great at what they do day in and day out. Levy thinks because they have uniforms, guns and cars with lights and sirens they can instantly do anything that full time police officers do. It is simply not the case.
By the way, since the sheriff's office seems to always have a huge overtime budget due to its lack of manpower, I assume they will be paying overtime for deputies to patrol the LIe and RT 27. That will quickly wipe out the $42000 per man, unless they will patrol in between delivering subpeonas and orders of protection.
Not really. The Deputy's overtime was just cut. They're going to use the incoming class at regular pay..not OT. Even IF they were being paid overtime...it's still cheaper than to pay an SCPO overtime.
LICICE

Rockaway, NJ

#23 Sep 15, 2008
Hopefully, the deputies will not let the illegals go that are driving with no licenses.
Its going to end badly

Brooklyn, NY

#24 Sep 15, 2008
Hmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
Not really. The Deputy's overtime was just cut. They're going to use the incoming class at regular pay..not OT. Even IF they were being paid overtime...it's still cheaper than to pay an SCPO overtime.
The LIE is no place for a rookie, and unless we are wrong as stated earlier, the rookies primary training is in civil areas, not interstate traffic law enforcement. Training them to shoot radar does not make them experts in handling high speed, high volume interstate traffic. A main interstate with heavy trucks, buses, and speeding vehicles of all types is not the place for on the job training. The highway cops that were there were worth every penny they got paid, if the sheriffs rookies want to risk their lives for half of that, God Bless them, it's a travesty Levy thinks their lives are worth less.
Anyway, how long before you think a labor arbitraitor says Nassau highway officers make this much, Suffolk sheriff highway has to get the same money for the same job. Then Levy will have raised the pay in the sheriff's dept to parity with the police dept. Any math boys out there want to tell us how much that will end up costing and raise taxes?
Hmmm

Brooklyn, NY

#25 Sep 15, 2008
Aodh wrote:
I think the Sheriff office is great but they simply do not have the experience to handle the situations that occur on the LIE. My understanding is that the Sheriff's office is mainly responsible for handling civil matters and transporting prisoners. Hopefully their inexperience will not endanger the general public and the Sheriff Deputies themselves.
They all go to the same academy.

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