Stop Maryland's season of cruelty: fall bow hunting -

There are 20 comments on the Sep 12, 2007, Baltimore Sun story titled Stop Maryland's season of cruelty: fall bow hunting -. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Anticipating autumn's bounty of cooler weather, glorious sunshine and majestic foliage also brings sadness to my heart, knowing the suffering about to be inflicted by Maryland's bow hunters on our deer starting ...

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“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173781 Jan 28, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Tease!!!! What? No Hershey's chocolate syrup?
Can't do it. I'm on a diet!:)

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173782 Jan 29, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
Can't do it. I'm on a diet!:)
ROTFLMAO!! Sounds like my kinda' diet!

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173783 Jan 29, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>The point is that where EVERYONE lives was once the home of someone or something else. Using your "logic" we should spend the next two or three centuries sorting it all out and giving it all back to the "original" owners. Just a little example for ya; what happened to the plethora of critters who lived in the area beside the stream before the beavers dammed up the stream and flooded that area? What became of their homes? It happens all day long, every day whether man is involved or not. Once again you attempt to separate humans from the natural order. It's just one of the many basic flaws in your philosophy.
Man may be a "natural" creature, but we do things that are unnatural. And we do those things on a very large scale. I'll take a beaver dam any day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Martis_Cree...

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173784 Jan 29, 2013
I'm glad this report is FINALLY being put out there. Maybe now the government(s) will take real action and not just neuter and release to kill more wildlife.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/01/29...

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173785 Jan 29, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>ROTFLMAO!! Sounds like my kinda' diet!
No doubt you would enjoy it immensely, Squach. It's homemade with no preservatives and comes from the farm down the street. Even better... it comes in HALF GALLONS...... you know, the size they sold in grocery stores before Obama caused inflation to go through the ozone layer and every company on earth reduced the portions in their packages?!

“Hey”

Since: Nov 07

laurel md

#173786 Jan 30, 2013
peteoo wrote:
When a 14 year old boy or girl has no idea of where their meat comes from, and how the animal that provided it lived, I would say that is more of a sheltered issue than one of purity. There are plenty of kids in that arena. I suspect/believe your daughter is not, and is fairly well versed. Once they get the education, they THEN get to decide what's right and wrong for themselves.
When "'my thoughts' are purer than your's, so your actions must match mine", I have a problem.
I'm all about having laws that we all live under and when we don't like them we change them.
Regulated, legalized hunting is how we decide who gets to hunt what where and when.
Show me another way, short of shutting down hunting for all, and I'll all ears. Maybe your daughter has some thoughts?
Mamasita wrote:
<quoted text>
Ever consider that these kids that you disparage are kept in the dark by the mega companies that infiltrate their lives, relentlessly. Sadly, money is often the greatest influence of laws and regulations. So mega companies, lobbyists, protect their special interests and many youth are, as what you refer to, as "sheltered". No, they simply lack adequate representation! Kids have more to deal with today then you or I ever had to deal with.
I think we both agree that a parent's job is to educate their child. And no...I wasn't disparaging any children. Just another one of your weak attacks.

I completely understand the desire a parent has in protecting the innocence (purity is a great synonym) of children, and letting them be children for as long as they can.

I'm sure you haven't been filling your kids' minds with ever present thoughts of the boogie man since they were infants.

I said 'once they get the education' and think it's wholly appropriate for parents to make the decision as to when that happens, and who gives it to them.

I suspect you wouldn't want me teaching your kids reality, and you'd much rather have them digest your doctored version.

“Hey”

Since: Nov 07

laurel md

#173788 Jan 30, 2013
Mamasita wrote:
<quoted text>
Bigot. Vegans, vegetarians, animal rights activists, anti- hunting folks, etc, represent a great portion of society.
Ever consider that some people will never understand how you could take the life of an animal? To many, that is sick.
Best thing anyone can do to help animals is stop eating them.
All anti-hunters (to include the obvious vegans and animal rights activists, as well as meat eating anti-hunters) make up about 25% of the population.

That's been pointed out in both local and national polls.

So yeah, if you say 25% is a great portion of society...you're correct.

Anti-hunting meat eaters make up the largest segment (like 80%) of that 25%. I believe those are the ones you are targeting instead of increasing the number of hypocrites.

Alternatively, those anti-hunting meat eaters could look at life from a completely different perspective and come to realize that they can have a significant positive effect on animals overall. They could start hunting and eating that meat instead of factory farmed animals.

Granted you don't achieve the fully enlightened double diamond status of a vegan but it's a step in, arguably, the right direction.

Listen carefully to the crickets as the vegan community responds to that statement.
Get Out

Jacksonville, NC

#173789 Jan 30, 2013
Mamasita wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Bigot, a little FYI about the "trailer park" residents you are attempting to disparage. Out here in sunny, wonderful weather, San Diego, most trailer parks are designated for senior citizens. That is very common for those homes in nearby vicinity of the beach. It would still set you back, Bigot, a cool $300k. I might have bought one, but I'm not a senior.
ADV Rider Salute -
Mamasita
Another deflection attempt by Smokey again, there’s nothing new here. You still displaced animals and birds as a vegan.

You call me a Bigot? Do you even know the definition? Does the definition apply to you an ARA vegan towards hunters? That would make you a hypocrite!
Definition of BIGOT
: A person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

ADV Rider Salute: the number of brain cells you have left? Another Dead Vegan, What?

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173790 Jan 30, 2013
Mamasita wrote:
<quoted text>
Bigot. Vegans, vegetarians, animal rights activists, anti- hunting folks, etc, represent a great portion of society.
Ever consider that some people will never understand how you could take the life of an animal? To many, that is sick.
Best thing anyone can do to help animals is stop eating them.
No, you are the bigot and you prove it with every post. Vegans and vegetarians are a miniscule minority in the world population and the majority of them who post here seem to be raging bigots toward the vast majority of humanity who are meat eaters. I just call 'em as I see 'em.

“I Love California”

Since: Jul 08

In Cali..of course!

#173791 Jan 31, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
I'm glad this report is FINALLY being put out there. Maybe now the government(s) will take real action and not just neuter and release to kill more wildlife.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/01/29...
So will you be pleased if every cat that is unfortunate enough to be dumped, abandoned, homeless, cold, sickly and hungry is killed? I assume that is what you are referring to when you say, "real action."

This reminds me to give a donation to one of my favorite animal protection groups.

http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx...

Do you ever consider that you would be more effective in educating people about pet responsibility, then having just a kill em off attitude (like you seem to have about cats.) You and I agree on our admiration of the top predators and how they are given a unfair, bad rap many times. Why can't you extend your understanding to an animal that shares some of those amazing predatory instincts?(Even as man was domesticating them for their own selfish reasons.)

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173792 Feb 1, 2013
IMGKNEE wrote:
<quoted text>
So will you be pleased if every cat that is unfortunate enough to be dumped, abandoned, homeless, cold, sickly and hungry is killed? I assume that is what you are referring to when you say, "real action."
This reminds me to give a donation to one of my favorite animal protection groups.
http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx...
Do you ever consider that you would be more effective in educating people about pet responsibility, then having just a kill em off attitude (like you seem to have about cats.) You and I agree on our admiration of the top predators and how they are given a unfair, bad rap many times. Why can't you extend your understanding to an animal that shares some of those amazing predatory instincts?(Even as man was domesticating them for their own selfish reasons.)
"will you be pleased if every cat that is unfortunate enough to be dumped, abandoned, homeless, cold, sickly and hungry is killed?"
To answer your question, IMGKNEE, No, I will not be pleased or happy about it. My heart goees out to all domesticated animals that don't have a loving home and someone's lap to curl up on at night.

"Real action" could mean whatever you want it to mean. In my fantasy world, all the cats would have good stable, indoor homes and people who feed, care for and love them. In the real world, that won't happen.

Unfortunately, in the real world, those millions of unwanted cats are making millions more unwanted cats, and they multiply unchecked in most areas. They, in turn, are killing billions of songbirds and small animals every year.

Up at the cabin, I've been photographing birds coming to my feeders...AND the birds that don't come to feeders. Every weekend when we go up there, I find cat tracks in the snow in my yard because the neighbor lets her feline run free.

This winter I've been photographing the redpolls, and I've had my sights set on a Ruffed Grouse that's been hanging around the cabin. The grouse is much more challenging and it's such a thrill to have! These (mostly) ground birds are not easy to find and photograph, and are absent, or just very elusive, in many areas.

To think that my neighbors cat (an alien species) could come onto my property and kill a (native) bird that I want there, and I can't do anything about it, just infuriates me. I can't legally kill the birds in my yard, or the grouse without a license,(not that I'd want to), but if my dog went on their property and chased a deer, they could legally kill him, even if it only happened once! Yet, some say deer are over-populated.

Why do cats get special treatment and a license to have open season on any animal they choose? Even endangered species? I place more importance on native species just trying to survive (many of which are severely declining in numbers) than on an over-abundant alien species, that in many cases is well fed, and just killing for fun. Like in this video:


If my neighbors cat is running free all the time, how many litters is it making?

"Do you ever consider that you would be more effective in educating people about pet responsibility, then having just a kill em off attitude (like you seem to have about cats.)"

I've tried that, and gave up. Most people do not wish to be told, or have it suggested to them, what they SHOULD do with their pets, for whatever reasons there are for making those suggestions. All the cat owners I've talked to that let their cats roam free do so under the pretext of "keeping mice down" or because it's "not fair" to keep a cat indoors. Cat people do not change their minds on this issue and they think that predation is just "natural."

Predation IS natural.
Cats killing birds and animals IS natural.
What is NOT natural is cats on this continent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“I'm a humane bowhunter”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#173793 Feb 4, 2013
Congrats to you Ravens fans.
endtime

AOL

#173794 Feb 5, 2013
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“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173795 Feb 7, 2013
Medicinebow wrote:
Congrats to you Ravens fans.
Thanks! I'm not sure how they did it, the whole season was a roller-coaster ride but they managed to be the last team standing. I think that will be all you get from the Ravens for a while now, too many players in the twilight of their careers. The Niners, on the other hand, will be one of the premier teams for the next few seasons. Their future looks bright.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173796 Feb 13, 2013
Medicinebow wrote:
Congrats to you Ravens fans.
I'm a grouse fan!

This is the best shot I could get of him.... so far. Next photo shoot should be better now that I'm learning more about his habits.
http://www.naturecardsforyou.com/Documents/ru...

Can't wait until he starts drumming...and then I have little grouselets running around!

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173797 Feb 14, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm a grouse fan!
This is the best shot I could get of him.... so far. Next photo shoot should be better now that I'm learning more about his habits.
http://www.naturecardsforyou.com/Documents/ru...
Can't wait until he starts drumming...and then I have little grouselets running around!
Nice pic, Rap! He looks a bit ruffled though. LMAO!

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173798 Feb 14, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Nice pic, Rap! He looks a bit ruffled though. LMAO!
Thank you, Squach. I was the one a bit ruffled. Especially after standing motionless for over 30 minutes and freezing my a** off waiting for him to come into view for a decent shot. Then realizing all I had to do was kneel down and shoot below the branch that was blocking my view! LOL

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173799 Feb 14, 2013

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173800 Feb 18, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you, Squach. I was the one a bit ruffled. Especially after standing motionless for over 30 minutes and freezing my a** off waiting for him to come into view for a decent shot. Then realizing all I had to do was kneel down and shoot below the branch that was blocking my view! LOL
Couldn't see the forest for the trees, eh? I hate when that happens. I've had some similar experiences hunting. Sat in my stand for hours without seeing a thing and then on the way back into camp jumped one up that had been bedded down all morning, less the 30 yards from my stand in a laurel thicket!

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“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173801 Feb 18, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Couldn't see the forest for the trees, eh? I hate when that happens. I've had some similar experiences hunting. Sat in my stand for hours without seeing a thing and then on the way back into camp jumped one up that had been bedded down all morning, less the 30 yards from my stand in a laurel thicket!
I hate when that happens.

I got him today though! And I got him good!

After sitting outside in the cold waiting and waiting and waiting, I almost gave up and came home. Instead I decided to look out the bedroom window hoping to see him on the other side of the cabin. All I saw was a blue jay hopping around. Then with a stroke of luck, the grouse just happened to be farther out there in the woods and approaching quickly. Talk about perfect timing!! I got into the other bedroom, window already open and screen already out in anticipation that this is where the photo-shoot would happen and I was able to get him on approach and feeding for several minutes.

Then the blue jays started creating a ruckus and he got nervous and disappeared into the brush. He climbed up on a stump and then I lost track of him. After reviewing some of my many shots to make sure they turned out, I closed the window and reached up to lock it. When I looked up, guess who I saw sitting up in the pine above the feeding area!!! Yep....I got him again!! He is sneaky and clever for sure!

Many weeks and dozens of hours of tracking him, hiding and waiting finally paid off. That was fun! Here are some of the shots:
http://www.naturecardsforyou.com/Pages/GameBi...

Next adventure....There was a Northern Saw-whet Owl calling during the nights the past few weekends up there. Next time I go I have an owl to find!

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