Stop Maryland's season of cruelty: fall bow hunting -

There are 20 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Sep 12, 2007, titled Stop Maryland's season of cruelty: fall bow hunting -. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Anticipating autumn's bounty of cooler weather, glorious sunshine and majestic foliage also brings sadness to my heart, knowing the suffering about to be inflicted by Maryland's bow hunters on our deer starting ...

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Mamasita

Jamul, CA

#173760 Jan 26, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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We ALL live where animals used to live. We have a right to defend our homes and families, while also having the responsibility to conserve as much as possible.
Yeah? Don't the animals have a right to defend their home? After all, we moved into their homes.

And conservation isn't a responsibility undertaken by most. Not in the least.
Mamasita

Jamul, CA

#173761 Jan 26, 2013
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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Your "logic" has a flaw.
There is only one logical conclusion to draw when it comes to who moved into whose neighborhood first. We humans share this globe with our relatives in our animal kingdom, and we all live here, so there is no such thing as to who moved in first.
I am willing to wager that where you live right now, bears used to roam and hunt long before you moved into that area.
It is impossible to turn back the clock, so efforts to "restore" this world to a prior time is an exercise in futility.
I can't turn back the clock. Duh. But clue, if I buy a home on a cliff, overlooking the ocean, and my home slides into the ocean, certainly I bore some responsibility, right? If you choose to live in the woods, then whine about how horrible your wild neighbors are - then you are a pathetic loser.

Accept personal responsibility in your own choices. Instead, you hunters kill anything that gets in your way.
Mamasita

Jamul, CA

#173762 Jan 26, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Good luck! I just might disagree though, smoked back strap is pretty darn good too!
I love tofu chow mein. And almond milk. And So Delicious dairy free creamer for my lattes.
Mamasita

Jamul, CA

#173763 Jan 26, 2013
peteoo wrote:
When a 14 year old boy or girl has no idea of where their meat comes from, and how the animal that provided it lived, I would say that is more of a sheltered issue than one of purity. There are plenty of kids in that arena. I suspect/believe your daughter is not, and is fairly well versed. Once they get the education, they THEN get to decide what's right and wrong for themselves.
When "'my thoughts' are purer than your's, so your actions must match mine", I have a problem.
I'm all about having laws that we all live under and when we don't like them we change them.
Regulated, legalized hunting is how we decide who gets to hunt what where and when.
Show me another way, short of shutting down hunting for all, and I'll all ears. Maybe your daughter has some thoughts?
Ever consider that these kids that you disparage are kept in the dark by the mega companies that infiltrate their lives, relentlessly. Sadly, money is often the greatest influence of laws and regulations. So mega companies, lobbyists, protect their special interests and many youth are, as what you refer to, as "sheltered". No, they simply lack adequate representation! Kids have more to deal with today then you or I ever had to deal with.
Mamasita

Jamul, CA

#173764 Jan 26, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Well gee, here we go with the ARs are more "highly evolved" than the rest of us normal humans. You fools think that you are somehow the "elite" and you have all the answers. Too bad you're really just a demented member of a miniscule minority existing on the lunatic fringe. Careful you don't fall off of that pedestal you've placed yourself on and hurt yourself. ROTFLMAO!!!
Bigot. Vegans, vegetarians, animal rights activists, anti- hunting folks, etc, represent a great portion of society.

Ever consider that some people will never understand how you could take the life of an animal? To many, that is sick.

Best thing anyone can do to help animals is stop eating them.
Mamasita

Jamul, CA

#173765 Jan 26, 2013
Medicinebow wrote:
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I don't have an issue with killing predator if the meat is eaten. I've killed and eaten bear. I liked it and would eat bear again....especially the one that keeps breaking in our home.
As much as I like taking photos its not a big deal to me concerning photos if animals i've killed. In fact, i've not taken photos of many of the animals I killed. After I shoot an animal i'm more interested in getting the animal ready to be moved and butchered.
You were young once :)
I wish that bear good luck - Especially having a bear killer as a neighbor. That would suck. I liken that to a family living near a predator. But I have a database I can search. Poor fuzzy wuzzy bear has no such database.
Mamasita

Jamul, CA

#173767 Jan 26, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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Maybe Squach is a tall, handsome, intelligent man that has to kill a "defenseless" animal so he can eat.
Who kills your animals for you before they reach your mouth in the form of meat?
You do eat meat, don't you?
Maybe not, more likely.

You need to get out more. You assume everyone eats flesh. Sad. What would you serve for dinner if you were having some vegetarian as dinner guests, bigot? Lemme guess: lettuce! So intelligent...
Mamasita

Jamul, CA

#173768 Jan 26, 2013
Medicinebow wrote:
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Logic from you...thanks for the laugh. We all live where animals live..even you. You going to give up your home to return that land to the animals that were there first?
Wow. How stupid. My home has been here for many decades. But using your logic, are you responsible to the descendants of the slaves your ancestors once "owned".

If I surf or dive in the ocean, get attacked by a shark, its not the sharks fault. If you live out in Timbuktu and a bear breaks in to your digs, it's not the bears fault. But you killing ears, beavers,coyotes, etc., you make it their fault.

You live in their home !

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“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173769 Jan 28, 2013
Mamasita wrote:
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I love tofu chow mein. And almond milk. And So Delicious dairy free creamer for my lattes.
I'm happy for you! Isn't the freedom of choice a wonderful thing? You get to choose what you like and prefer and so do I.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173770 Jan 28, 2013
Mamasita wrote:
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Wow. How stupid. My home has been here for many decades. But using your logic, are you responsible to the descendants of the slaves your ancestors once "owned".
If I surf or dive in the ocean, get attacked by a shark, its not the sharks fault. If you live out in Timbuktu and a bear breaks in to your digs, it's not the bears fault. But you killing ears, beavers,coyotes, etc., you make it their fault.
You live in their home !
The point is that where EVERYONE lives was once the home of someone or something else. Using your "logic" we should spend the next two or three centuries sorting it all out and giving it all back to the "original" owners. Just a little example for ya; what happened to the plethora of critters who lived in the area beside the stream before the beavers dammed up the stream and flooded that area? What became of their homes? It happens all day long, every day whether man is involved or not. Once again you attempt to separate humans from the natural order. It's just one of the many basic flaws in your philosophy.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173771 Jan 28, 2013
Medicinebow wrote:
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I keep every file. I back them up to 2 external hard drives and then burn a copy to dvd. I'm considering internet storage also.
They do burn up space. But my 3tb hd has plenty of room. I'm getting well over 30Mb per shot by shooting raw+jpg.
Yes, blue grouse.
Got my Ruffed Grouse! Can't wait to head back up for more (better quality) photos, hopefully this coming weekend. He is SOOO skittish and very clever! He knows when I'm outside, even when I'm hidden.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173772 Jan 28, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Good luck! I just might disagree though, smoked back strap is pretty darn good too!
So was that giant bowl of vanilla ice cream I just polished off.:)

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173773 Jan 28, 2013
Mamasita wrote:
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Hey Bigot, a little FYI about the "trailer park" residents you are attempting to disparage. Out here in sunny, wonderful weather, San Diego, most trailer parks are designated for senior citizens. That is very common for those homes in nearby vicinity of the beach. It would still set you back, Bigot, a cool $300k. I might have bought one, but I'm not a senior.
ADV Rider Salute -
Mamasita
I hear you had a little cold weather down there recently, eh?

As I watch the weather across the country, I'm glad I'm up here in the north. When I get a hot flash, I can go outside in 15 degree temperatures and get instant relief! If I was in Texas where it's 90 degrees, I'd be screwed. Though I do love Texas.

Besides, the snow is SOOOO pretty! You should see some of the Common Redpoll photos I've gotten. They look so good on a spruce branch covered in snow! Bet you'll never see THAT in San Diego.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173774 Jan 28, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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So was that giant bowl of vanilla ice cream I just polished off.:)
Tease!!!! What? No Hershey's chocolate syrup?

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173775 Jan 28, 2013
Mamasita wrote:
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Yeah? Don't the animals have a right to defend their home? After all, we moved into their homes.
And conservation isn't a responsibility undertaken by most. Not in the least.
Unless one is willing to commit suicide, we will always displace animals.

You are correct though, conservation is something not undertaken by most. That is my purpose in life.....to encourage conservation. Our disturbance can be minimal with a little planning and caring.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173776 Jan 28, 2013
Mamasita wrote:
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I can't turn back the clock. Duh. But clue, if I buy a home on a cliff, overlooking the ocean, and my home slides into the ocean, certainly I bore some responsibility, right? If you choose to live in the woods, then whine about how horrible your wild neighbors are - then you are a pathetic loser.
Accept personal responsibility in your own choices. Instead, you hunters kill anything that gets in your way.
I LOVE my wild neighbors. The Ruffed Grouse has been giving me a heck of a time trying to capture him on digital media. I've just been having way too much fun in that endeavor. The real challenge will be trying to find him drumming in the spring when there's no snow on the ground! Given a choice, I'll take the woods over the ocean any day. I can't walk on water. But I do like the pelicans and the shorebirds too.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173777 Jan 28, 2013
Mamasita wrote:
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Ever consider that these kids that you disparage are kept in the dark by the mega companies that infiltrate their lives, relentlessly. Sadly, money is often the greatest influence of laws and regulations. So mega companies, lobbyists, protect their special interests and many youth are, as what you refer to, as "sheltered". No, they simply lack adequate representation! Kids have more to deal with today then you or I ever had to deal with.
"Kids have more to deal with today then you or I ever had to deal with."
Doesn't every generation say that? Is it really true? How do you know?

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173778 Jan 28, 2013
Mamasita wrote:
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Bigot. Vegans, vegetarians, animal rights activists, anti- hunting folks, etc, represent a great portion of society.
Ever consider that some people will never understand how you could take the life of an animal? To many, that is sick.
Best thing anyone can do to help animals is stop eating them.
"Best thing anyone can do to help animals is stop eating them."

How will that help them? Does that mean they will never die?
The best thing anyone can do to help animals is conserve their habitat.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173779 Jan 28, 2013
Mamasita wrote:
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Maybe not, more likely.
You need to get out more. You assume everyone eats flesh. Sad. What would you serve for dinner if you were having some vegetarian as dinner guests, bigot? Lemme guess: lettuce! So intelligent...
Mac and cheese or spaghetti is always a good option. Maybe I would simply ask them what they want for dinner.

What would you serve if you were having a normal dinner guest?

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173780 Jan 28, 2013
Mamasita wrote:
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Wow. How stupid. My home has been here for many decades. But using your logic, are you responsible to the descendants of the slaves your ancestors once "owned".
If I surf or dive in the ocean, get attacked by a shark, its not the sharks fault. If you live out in Timbuktu and a bear breaks in to your digs, it's not the bears fault. But you killing ears, beavers,coyotes, etc., you make it their fault.
You live in their home !
If you surf or dive in the ocean, and get attacked by a shark, would you kill it to save your life....IF you had the means to do so?

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