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Stop Maryland's season of cruelty: fall bow hunting -

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Anticipating autumn's bounty of cooler weather, glorious sunshine and majestic foliage also brings sadness to my heart, knowing the suffering about to be inflicted by Maryland's bow hunters on our deer starting ...

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“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173718 Jan 2, 2013
peteoo wrote:
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Happy New Year's AQ :)
I think arrogance and pride are tightly related.
You can have someone so full of pride that they 'lord' their accomplishments over others. At the same time, false humility isn't appropriate.....
There's this saying "The Few, The Proud, The Marines"
I see it as a positive thing. Can it be used as a means to put someone down. Sometimes it is.
But just because sometimes it is, doesn't mean it always is, and if someone takes it that when when it's not meant that way, that's on them.
Interesting thoughts and opinions on that word 'pride.'

I am a Leo. Leos are known for having lots of pride. I am no exception. I may be stubborn, but I don't consider myself arrogant, snobbish or conceited (according to the definitions I found online.) Maybe others see me that way at times. If so, it is not intentional. I guess it's a trait that most likely can't be controlled if it's in the stars.

Just for fun I Googled 'leo pride' and this is the first website that came up.
http://www.annabelburton.com/leo.html

Seems my exact opposite is Aquarius.:)

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173719 Jan 2, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>A belated Happy New Year to all!
Glad to see you back, Mr. Squach. Happy New Year to you too. Santa bring you that new bow this year?

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173720 Jan 2, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
Glad to see you back, Mr. Squach. Happy New Year to you too. Santa bring you that new bow this year?
Nah, I got a couple of sticks and some lumps of coal! Maybe next year (or tax return time). Hope your holidays were warm and filled with family and friends.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#173721 Jan 3, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting thoughts and opinions on that word 'pride.'
I am a Leo. Leos are known for having lots of pride. I am no exception. I may be stubborn, but I don't consider myself arrogant, snobbish or conceited (according to the definitions I found online.) Maybe others see me that way at times. If so, it is not intentional. I guess it's a trait that most likely can't be controlled if it's in the stars.
Just for fun I Googled 'leo pride' and this is the first website that came up.
http://www.annabelburton.com/leo.html
Seems my exact opposite is Aquarius.:)
It says the Water Bearer, the Aquarian is "the thinker".
You say that is opposite of you.
Interesting.
<wink>

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173722 Jan 3, 2013
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>
It says the Water Bearer, the Aquarian is "the thinker".
You say that is opposite of you.
Interesting.
<wink>
It is not >I< that says that Aquarius is opposite. It is the Annabel website that says it. Another interesting thing about Annabel, she lists Aquarius under "air."
I wonder, would that be hot air, or cold?
<wink>

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#173723 Jan 3, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not >I< that says that Aquarius is opposite. It is the Annabel website that says it. Another interesting thing about Annabel, she lists Aquarius under "air."
I wonder, would that be hot air, or cold?
<wink>
No.
"Air" sign means that Aquarians can fly, in both cold and hot air.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173724 Jan 4, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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It is not >I< that says that Aquarius is opposite. It is the Annabel website that says it. Another interesting thing about Annabel, she lists Aquarius under "air."
I wonder, would that be hot air, or cold?
<wink>
What does it say about the Archer? Being Sagittarius I'm curious.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173725 Jan 4, 2013
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>
No.
"Air" sign means that Aquarians can fly, in both cold and hot air.
Leo sign is "Fire." What does that mean?

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173726 Jan 4, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>What does it say about the Archer? Being Sagittarius I'm curious.
Interesting:
"Sagittarius is optimistic, outgoing and the most adaptable of the fire signs. They interact spontaneously with life as they continue a lifelong quest for meaning."

I can see this:
"This sign needs a great deal of freedom, but is equally willing to offer freedom to others."

Then there's this:
"Having an open minded and intellectual curiosity means that Sagittarius is willing to learn about other people in an effort to understand them, while being trusting and open."

Ummm, YEP:
"Sagittarians say what they mean with complete and devastating frankness!"

Uh Oh....You might be better off not buying that bow.... and getting rid of your guns:
"Bored Sagittarians are a danger to themselves and others."

It says you know Walt Disney. Could they be confusing that with knowing "Disneyfied" people?

Ummm it also says you may suffer from....get this........ BALDNESS!
Somehow I find THAT hard to believe!!
LMAO

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173727 Jan 4, 2013

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173728 Jan 5, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting:
"Sagittarius is optimistic, outgoing and the most adaptable of the fire signs. They interact spontaneously with life as they continue a lifelong quest for meaning."
I can see this:
"This sign needs a great deal of freedom, but is equally willing to offer freedom to others."
Then there's this:
"Having an open minded and intellectual curiosity means that Sagittarius is willing to learn about other people in an effort to understand them, while being trusting and open."
Ummm, YEP:
"Sagittarians say what they mean with complete and devastating frankness!"
Uh Oh....You might be better off not buying that bow.... and getting rid of your guns:
"Bored Sagittarians are a danger to themselves and others."
It says you know Walt Disney. Could they be confusing that with knowing "Disneyfied" people?
Ummm it also says you may suffer from....get this........ BALDNESS!
Somehow I find THAT hard to believe!!
LMAO
Interesting. I don't see any bald patches. I have been a big fan of Walt Disney all of my life though. Unlike our AR friends I've never had any trouble separating fantasy from reality. I usually don't have time to be bored. Not a bad description I guess. I was hoping for tall, handsome, intelligent, that kinda' thing....LMAO.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#173729 Jan 5, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Typical ignorant bullshit from an AR lunatard! You make up idiotic derogatory comments to support your bigoted anti-human agenda. Hunting is as natural as breathing and humans have been doing it since the dawn of human history. Your overly emotional, unrealistic philosophy didn't even exist until modern times because if it had existed before then.........there wouldn't be any modern times. Humans are an omnivorous hunter/gatherer species. Always have been and always will be. Just the facts, ma'am.
You are a cowardly little man that has to kill a defenseless animal in order to feel macho. Pathetic.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173730 Jan 5, 2013
EcoAngel wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a cowardly little man that has to kill a defenseless animal in order to feel macho. Pathetic.
You are an idiot who has an extremely distorted view of the world which is completely at odds with reality. What I feel when I kill animals (none of which are defenseless) is well fed. If I want to feel macho (whatever the hell that may be, the word has been misused to the point of meaning nothing) I'll get in the ring and beat the crap out of somebody. You're misinformed, uneducated in the real world, obviously a follower rather than a leader, an insult to the natural order of life and the human species, dumber than a box of rocks, and you have the audacity to call someone else pathetic? There is nothing more pathetic than a creature like you going through life trying to deny what you are.......an omnivorous predator. Just because you don't have the intestinal fortitude to be what you are don't expect the rest of the human race to start grazing like sheep to make you feel better. Grow a freakin' spine and be all that you can be.....be a NORMAL human! Now crawl back under your slimy rock and contemplate your next ridiculously uninformed and bigoted comment.
Get Out

Jacksonville, NC

#173731 Jan 5, 2013
EcoAngel wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a cowardly little man that has to kill a defenseless animal in order to feel macho. Pathetic.
Then you need to arm these defenseless animals or they need to hide better or run faster. Got any good hunting spots in your area we can hunt dude?

“I Love California”

Since: Jul 08

In Cali..of course!

#173732 Jan 5, 2013
peteoo wrote:
<quoted text>
I can see where people are proud of their accomplishments.
There is no denying that. That is why you see pictures and mounts.
Ever see a picture of a cake someone made?
How about a fingerpainting on the side of a fridge?
Someone breaking the tape at a finish line?
A small rock retrieved from the top of a mountain?
After all...if you aren't proud of what you're doing...then why do it?
Much less take pictures of it.
I disagree with pope and young assertions that IT is about honoring the animal.
If so....there would be no mention of the hunter. So it's not glorifying death....it's
'Glorifying' an accomplishment.'
When a 14 year old girl sees a photo of a hunter(usually grinning) holding up or posing with a bloodied dead animal, it's much different for her than her seeing photos of a winning cheerleading squad or a high school graduation photo. That's why her perpective is more pure, she wouldn't question the other photos I mention here. To an adult like me, I ponder why the person in the photo made sure the photo was taken, made sure the equipment for the photo op was ready. There was obviously much more in the person's intent than just hunting for food to put on the table. I have come a long way in accepting that some hunters do hunt just for food to sustain him or her and genuinely takes all possible effort to be humane. When I see the photos and see my daughter's reaction, it sets me back. The way I have heard some hunters talk...sets me back. The one photo that really set me back, the one of a mountain lion, that hunter wasn't hunting for food of course. I even recall one hunter way back saying he felt great accomplishment in hunting and killing another top predator. Big setback there.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173733 Jan 5, 2013
IMGKNEE wrote:
<quoted text>
When a 14 year old girl sees a photo of a hunter(usually grinning) holding up or posing with a bloodied dead animal, it's much different for her than her seeing photos of a winning cheerleading squad or a high school graduation photo. That's why her perpective is more pure, she wouldn't question the other photos I mention here. To an adult like me, I ponder why the person in the photo made sure the photo was taken, made sure the equipment for the photo op was ready. There was obviously much more in the person's intent than just hunting for food to put on the table. I have come a long way in accepting that some hunters do hunt just for food to sustain him or her and genuinely takes all possible effort to be humane. When I see the photos and see my daughter's reaction, it sets me back. The way I have heard some hunters talk...sets me back. The one photo that really set me back, the one of a mountain lion, that hunter wasn't hunting for food of course. I even recall one hunter way back saying he felt great accomplishment in hunting and killing another top predator. Big setback there.
Hi Gknee. How have you and Kat been? Hope your holidays were filled with friends and family.

We've talked about this before. Hunters are individuals. There are millions of hunters out there and each one has their own reasons and motivations to hunt. There is a sense of accomplishment in a successful hunt just as there is in any job well done. Some people take pictures of the work they've done. I still have pictures of the Chevy 350 ci engine that I rebuilt sitting on the floor of my old garage before it went into the car I eventually destroyed. LOL! You can't assume that all of any given group are represented by the actions of an individual. The only one who truly knows why an individual does something is that individual.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#173734 Jan 6, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>You are an idiot who has an extremely distorted view of the world which is completely at odds with reality. What I feel when I kill animals (none of which are defenseless) is well fed. If I want to feel macho (whatever the hell that may be, the word has been misused to the point of meaning nothing) I'll get in the ring and beat the crap out of somebody. You're misinformed, uneducated in the real world, obviously a follower rather than a leader, an insult to the natural order of life and the human species, dumber than a box of rocks, and you have the audacity to call someone else pathetic? There is nothing more pathetic than a creature like you going through life trying to deny what you are.......an omnivorous predator. Just because you don't have the intestinal fortitude to be what you are don't expect the rest of the human race to start grazing like sheep to make you feel better. Grow a freakin' spine and be all that you can be.....be a NORMAL human! Now crawl back under your slimy rock and contemplate your next ridiculously uninformed and bigoted comment.
Crawl back into your cave and put your bearskin back on you neanderthal. If you had half a brain you would be even more dangerous than you already are.

“Hey”

Since: Nov 07

laurel md

#173735 Jan 7, 2013
IMGKNEE wrote:
<quoted text>
When a 14 year old girl sees a photo of a hunter(usually grinning) holding up or posing with a bloodied dead animal, it's much different for her than her seeing photos of a winning cheerleading squad or a high school graduation photo. That's why her perpective is more pure, she wouldn't question the other photos I mention here. To an adult like me, I ponder why the person in the photo made sure the photo was taken, made sure the equipment for the photo op was ready. There was obviously much more in the person's intent than just hunting for food to put on the table. I have come a long way in accepting that some hunters do hunt just for food to sustain him or her and genuinely takes all possible effort to be humane. When I see the photos and see my daughter's reaction, it sets me back. The way I have heard some hunters talk...sets me back. The one photo that really set me back, the one of a mountain lion, that hunter wasn't hunting for food of course. I even recall one hunter way back saying he felt great accomplishment in hunting and killing another top predator. Big setback there.
Hey Jeanne,

I'm all for the whole purity thing.
I'm also all for the whole judge me for what I do thing, not for what I'm thinking.
I'm also into the protect our freedoms as opposed to having the majority deciding what a minority can do.
I'm also into the protect our freedoms so that a minority doesn't decide what we're able to do.

“Hey”

Since: Nov 07

laurel md

#173736 Jan 7, 2013
When a 14 year old boy or girl has no idea of where their meat comes from, and how the animal that provided it lived, I would say that is more of a sheltered issue than one of purity. There are plenty of kids in that arena. I suspect/believe your daughter is not, and is fairly well versed. Once they get the education, they THEN get to decide what's right and wrong for themselves.

When "'my thoughts' are purer than your's, so your actions must match mine", I have a problem.

I'm all about having laws that we all live under and when we don't like them we change them.

Regulated, legalized hunting is how we decide who gets to hunt what where and when.

Show me another way, short of shutting down hunting for all, and I'll all ears. Maybe your daughter has some thoughts?

“Hey”

Since: Nov 07

laurel md

#173737 Jan 7, 2013
EcoAngel wrote:
<quoted text>
Crawl....
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EcoAngel wrote:
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Anyone that say they need to "kill" to "feel life"
has a serious mental problem.

peteoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Apparently someone thinks my definition was mean...
"I think of arrogance as my way is the best way and only way."
What do you think ecoangel?

You brought up arrogance.
I wanted to talk to you about that.
Are you not interested in having that discussion?
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It would appear that the answer is no...

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