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Stop Maryland's season of cruelty: fall bow hunting -

There are 116320 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Sep 12, 2007, titled Stop Maryland's season of cruelty: fall bow hunting -. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Anticipating autumn's bounty of cooler weather, glorious sunshine and majestic foliage also brings sadness to my heart, knowing the suffering about to be inflicted by Maryland's bow hunters on our deer starting ...

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“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173606 Nov 16, 2012
Medicinebow wrote:
"As a young girl born and raised in the city, seeing real animals in the wild was special. My life revolved around Kimba back then. I wanted to protect all of them"
It's exactly this line of thinking that causes people to vote for hunting bans when ballot initiatives come up. Common sense and logic go out the window.
The case has been made here that if an animal is born and raised in a cage, it knows nothing different. It doesn't long for freedom. It is what it is.

The same could be said for humans that grow up in an environment where they are not exposed to certain things. Or they are taught that certain things are wrong.

It IS common sense AND logical for someone to want to protect animals when that is all they've ever known.

There has only been one hunting proposal on the ballot here that I can recall. That was to open a dove season.

On November 7, 2006, Michigan voters overwhelmingly rejected the shooting of mourning doves. More Michigan citizens voted No on Proposal 3 than voted for any candidate for statewide elective office, or voted for or against any other contested ballot proposal. A No vote on Proposal 3 prevailed in all 83 Michigan counties!

Amazing how even in the rural counties, and Michigan has ALOT of hunters, most voted against it. Maybe even the hunters had various reasons- logical in their view- why doves shouldn't be hunted.
Let them live

Nottingham, MD

#173607 Nov 19, 2012
OMG you all are still talking about killing animals. How creepy. How many years has it been?

“I'm a humane bowhunter”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#173608 Nov 19, 2012
Let them live wrote:
OMG you all are still talking about killing animals. How creepy. How many years has it been?
I plan on killing them until I die. I hope all is well with you.

“I'm a humane bowhunter”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#173609 Nov 19, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
The case has been made here that if an animal is born and raised in a cage, it knows nothing different. It doesn't long for freedom. It is what it is.
The same could be said for humans that grow up in an environment where they are not exposed to certain things. Or they are taught that certain things are wrong.
It IS common sense AND logical for someone to want to protect animals when that is all they've ever known.
There has only been one hunting proposal on the ballot here that I can recall. That was to open a dove season.
On November 7, 2006, Michigan voters overwhelmingly rejected the shooting of mourning doves. More Michigan citizens voted No on Proposal 3 than voted for any candidate for statewide elective office, or voted for or against any other contested ballot proposal. A No vote on Proposal 3 prevailed in all 83 Michigan counties!
Amazing how even in the rural counties, and Michigan has ALOT of hunters, most voted against it. Maybe even the hunters had various reasons- logical in their view- why doves shouldn't be hunted.
I am against ballot initiatives for wildlife management. Most don't know enough to make an informed decision. They get bombarded with PETA ads depicting outright lies and half truths.

WE have too many bears here in Co. Is it a coincidence that spring hunting for them is outlawed and the numbers have increased?

Most hunters voted against the dove hunt? Are there some polls showing this?

A human compared to an animal in a cage? One of them has the capacity to reason...want to guess which one?

I see a sharp division in this country where folks in certain areas are deciding what goes on in other areas when its really none of their business. Its not just with hunting. I don't make decisions for the folks in Denver and they shouldn't be deciding how things should be for me. Why should someone is downtown Denver or Boulder be deciding how things are done where I live? These folks don't have bears in their neighborhoods (for the most part) so why should they have a say in how in how they are managed up here?

It's the same with the wolves in Wyoming. Someone in California shouldn't be telling the folks in Wyoming they can't hunt wolves. But these folks insist on making things that are none of their business, their business.

Maybe we should put welfare on a ballot initiative and let the folks in rural areas decide if folks in the city should receive such funds. After all, the folks in the cities are insisting on telling me how to live my life.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173610 Nov 20, 2012
Medicinebow wrote:
<quoted text>
I am against ballot initiatives for wildlife management. Most don't know enough to make an informed decision. They get bombarded with PETA ads depicting outright lies and half truths.
On this I agree.
And it's not just PETA. Other groups have a vested interest in wildlife issues too. Ranchers, hunters, fishermen, environmental organizations, etc. Sometimes what these groups want isn't in the best interest of others or the ecosystem.
Medicinebow wrote:
<quoted text>
WE have too many bears here in Co. Is it a coincidence that spring hunting for them is outlawed and the numbers have increased?
Why is spring hunting of bears outlawed? Was that a ballot initiative, or was that implemented by wildlife officials who have the knowledge to make decisions regarding wildlife management?
Medicinebow wrote:
<quoted text>
Most hunters voted against the dove hunt? Are there some polls
showing this?
I don't know what most hunters voted for, but my link stated that EVERY county in the state shot the bill down. I would assume there were hunters in the mix since many of those counties are in prime hunting territory.
Medicinebow wrote:
<quoted text>
A human compared to an animal in a cage? One of them has the capacity to reason...want to guess which one?
Yes. Both. Do you support confinement of animals with the capacity to feel pain and that long for freedom, even if they can't "reason" according to your definition of the word?
Medicinebow wrote:
<quoted text>
I see a sharp division in this country where folks in certain areas are deciding what goes on in other areas when its really none of their business. Its not just with hunting. I don't make decisions for the folks in Denver and they shouldn't be deciding how things should be for me. Why should someone is downtown Denver or Boulder be deciding how things are done where I live? These folks don't have bears in their neighborhoods (for the most part) so why should they have a say in how in how they are managed up here?
I see your point and I agree with it. But you can't change the sentimental feelings other humans have for animals, especially when most of those people only see them in movies.
Medicinebow wrote:
<quoted text>
It's the same with the wolves in Wyoming. Someone in California shouldn't be telling the folks in Wyoming they can't hunt wolves. But these folks insist on making things that are none of their business, their business.
See previous reply.
Medicinebow wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe we should put welfare on a ballot initiative and let the folks in rural areas decide if folks in the city should receive such funds. After all, the folks in the cities are insisting on telling me how to live my life.
Considering we all pay the bill, why not? Except for the fact that the majority seems to rule this country now, it would probably pass.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173611 Nov 21, 2012
Let them live wrote:
OMG you all are still talking about killing animals. How creepy. How many years has it been?
About 17,000 years here in North America, according to archeological science.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173612 Nov 22, 2012
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

“Hey”

Since: Nov 07

laurel md

#173613 Nov 22, 2012
Squach wrote:
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
Yes! Happy Thanksgiving :)

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173615 Nov 22, 2012
I think that's one thing we can all agree on!

“Bowhunting Is Euphoric”

Since: Jan 09

Double Lung em

#173616 Nov 22, 2012
Let them live wrote:
OMG you all are still talking about killing animals. How creepy. How many years has it been?
Hi LTL, This is fate... I think about you every time I have bacon and I had some this morning. Cool huh ?

Hope everyone's Thanksgiving has been grand and best to all.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173617 Dec 4, 2012
An animal rescue worker arrested for dognapping and throwing dogs from a car window? Really?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/04/debb...

“I'm a humane bowhunter”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#173618 Dec 9, 2012
For you Ravens fans....sorry for your loss today :)

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173619 Dec 9, 2012
Medicinebow wrote:
For you Ravens fans....sorry for your loss today :)
What? Someone killed a bunch of Ravens? That's terrible!!

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173620 Dec 10, 2012
Medicinebow wrote:
For you Ravens fans....sorry for your loss today :)
Two weeks in a row we lose by a field goal, in OT, to a back-up QB!!! What's wrong with this picture??? I can't figure out why they can't show any consistancy, they play great for short spurts then go back to playing halfassed. Go figure.....

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173621 Dec 10, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
An animal rescue worker arrested for dognapping and throwing dogs from a car window? Really?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/04/debb...
Just another AR lunatic who believes that her "fight for the animals" justifies her actions, even including grand theft, trespassing/burglary, and throwing dogs from a speeding vehicle. Sure the dogs she tossed out of the moving car suffered great fear and pain but it was for their own good....right? ROTFLMAO!!!! ARs! What a bunch of bigoted lame brained idiots!!!

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173622 Dec 10, 2012
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Just another AR lunatic who believes that her "fight for the animals" justifies her actions, even including grand theft, trespassing/burglary, and throwing dogs from a speeding vehicle. Sure the dogs she tossed out of the moving car suffered great fear and pain but it was for their own good....right? ROTFLMAO!!!! ARs! What a bunch of bigoted lame brained idiots!!!
Good morning, Squach. I hope you are well.

Austin is in pain and with frequent coughing and choking lately. There is swelling, or some type of growth on his tonsils, but bloodwork does not indicate any bad cells. The vet says Tonsil cancer in dogs is very rare and unlikely.

Last month we thought he had lymphoma, but the huge lump on his throat turned out to be infection of the salivary glands. We don't know what is causing him these problems. He is 12 years old, but we decided to have it biopsied, because otherwise he is in good health.

I'm hoping this is something simple like a wood splinter stuck in his throat that got infected and can be removed.(He used to eat wood in the yard.) I hate putting him under anesthesia at this age, but it's too soon to lose another family member.:(

There's a really nice lake I want to take him to in the spring!

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173623 Dec 10, 2012
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Just another AR lunatic who believes that her "fight for the animals" justifies her actions, even including grand theft, trespassing/burglary, and throwing dogs from a speeding vehicle. Sure the dogs she tossed out of the moving car suffered great fear and pain but it was for their own good....right? ROTFLMAO!!!! ARs! What a bunch of bigoted lame brained idiots!!!
We took a friend (19 years old) up north so she could go hunting on our property over the weekend. I walked with her out to the tree stand. Before she climbed up it, I warned her to always check the tree stands anywhere she hunts to make sure it hasn't been tampered with.

She's still a little young and naive and was shocked when I told her about some of the ARA tactics to stop people from hunting.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173624 Dec 10, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
Good morning, Squach. I hope you are well.
Austin is in pain and with frequent coughing and choking lately. There is swelling, or some type of growth on his tonsils, but bloodwork does not indicate any bad cells. The vet says Tonsil cancer in dogs is very rare and unlikely.
Last month we thought he had lymphoma, but the huge lump on his throat turned out to be infection of the salivary glands. We don't know what is causing him these problems. He is 12 years old, but we decided to have it biopsied, because otherwise he is in good health.
I'm hoping this is something simple like a wood splinter stuck in his throat that got infected and can be removed.(He used to eat wood in the yard.) I hate putting him under anesthesia at this age, but it's too soon to lose another family member.:(
There's a really nice lake I want to take him to in the spring!
I'm good, thanks for asking. Sorry to hear that Austin is under the weather. Hope it's nothing serious.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#173625 Dec 10, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
We took a friend (19 years old) up north so she could go hunting on our property over the weekend. I walked with her out to the tree stand. Before she climbed up it, I warned her to always check the tree stands anywhere she hunts to make sure it hasn't been tampered with.
She's still a little young and naive and was shocked when I told her about some of the ARA tactics to stop people from hunting.
Yeah, violent crime against their fellow humans from the crowd that claims to have "compassion" for all living things. That's a pretty smelly crock-o-sh!t, ain't it? Hope your friend had a good time hunting and learned a few things for future hunts.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173626 Dec 10, 2012
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, violent crime against their fellow humans from the crowd that claims to have "compassion" for all living things. That's a pretty smelly crock-o-sh!t, ain't it? Hope your friend had a good time hunting and learned a few things for future hunts.
She had a great time. She was also introduced to the world of birds. She had chickadees feeding from her hand, saw her first giant Pileated Woodpecker carving out a fallen tree, and rare (for this area) Pine Grosbeaks down from the far north. Her time in the tree stand I'm sure will be much more rewarding knowing some of the birds that come to check her out in the future.

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