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Stop Maryland's season of cruelty: fall bow hunting -

There are 116321 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Sep 12, 2007, titled Stop Maryland's season of cruelty: fall bow hunting -. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Anticipating autumn's bounty of cooler weather, glorious sunshine and majestic foliage also brings sadness to my heart, knowing the suffering about to be inflicted by Maryland's bow hunters on our deer starting ...

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“I'm a humane bowhunter”

Since: Apr 08

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#173399 Oct 5, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
Medicinebow, the point and shoot camera I had been using for landscapes and macro took a dump. The ISO button doesn't work (which also used to advance my photos to the right to view them) and my outdoor pictures have a blue tint to them.
I can get it fixed, or break down and buy a new lens for my Canon EOS60D.
Which lens would you recommend for landscapes?
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/produc...
If it were me i'd buy another lens. Take a look at this.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/351542-...

It probably isn't worth fixing the P&S camera. I know the lens I listed isn't cheap but it's perfect for landscapes.

“I Love California”

Since: Jul 08

In Cali..of course!

#173400 Oct 5, 2012
President Obama is coming here Monday to designate this man's home as a national monument.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesar_Chavez

I hope everyone has heard of Cesar Chavez. I wonder how many people are aware that he was vegan, and a supporter of animal rights. So not only did he fight his entire life for better conditions for farm workers, he also had room to think of the humane treatment of animals as well.

I also wonder how many people are aware of the brutally hard hands on work that for instance grape vineyard workers do to get those grapes to market. Backbreaking work in 100 degree weather, I see them picking grapes by hand to this day. Waving and smiling to me as I walk by them on my breaks. Years ago they had to endure sucking fumes from pesticides and falling down dead from heat and exhaustion. Cesar Chavez historically changed conditions for our farm workers. Just goes to show that a great person can care for people AND animals.

“Bowhunting Is Euphoric”

Since: Jan 09

Double Lung em

#173401 Oct 5, 2012
Mamasita wrote:
<quoted text>
Get a grip ! Stealing a seagulls food. You did. Egregious animal cruelty varies from person to person. Some people, like yourself, think killing an animal for amusement and a big rack is awesome. I think it's egregious animal cruelty. I think sport fishing is cruel. I think sport hunting is especially cruel where these hunters go out and kill the trophy animal. Yes, and I'm not the only one.
And I know plenty ! I know all about greedy hunters and fishermen that deplete our forests and waters for sport and nothing else. The damage you all do is immeasurable. Maybe you could sell the rack or dead fish on eBay for a nice profit too, or blood money.
Haven't been here for quite a while but I see that prevarication, embellishment and theater of the absurd are still your favorite methods of communication, Mamasita. Could you please tell us about the stringless crossbows for old times sake ?

“Bowhunting Is Euphoric”

Since: Jan 09

Double Lung em

#173402 Oct 5, 2012
Hi gang ! Hope you are all doing well.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173403 Oct 6, 2012
Medicinebow wrote:
<quoted text>
If it were me i'd buy another lens. Take a look at this.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/351542-...
It probably isn't worth fixing the P&S camera. I know the lens I listed isn't cheap but it's perfect for landscapes.
•Close-focusing to 9.5 inches
Would this also be good for macro and close-ups of things like flowers and insects?

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#173404 Oct 6, 2012
IMGKNEE wrote:
President Obama is coming here Monday to designate this man's home as a national monument.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesar_Chavez
I hope everyone has heard of Cesar Chavez. I wonder how many people are aware that he was vegan, and a supporter of animal rights. So not only did he fight his entire life for better conditions for farm workers, he also had room to think of the humane treatment of animals as well.
I also wonder how many people are aware of the brutally hard hands on work that for instance grape vineyard workers do to get those grapes to market. Backbreaking work in 100 degree weather, I see them picking grapes by hand to this day. Waving and smiling to me as I walk by them on my breaks. Years ago they had to endure sucking fumes from pesticides and falling down dead from heat and exhaustion. Cesar Chavez historically changed conditions for our farm workers. Just goes to show that a great person can care for people AND animals.
Whatever made you think that to show a caring for more than one species on this planet was an impossibility, no matter how "great" the person may be?

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#173405 Oct 6, 2012
IMGKNEE wrote:
President Obama is coming here Monday to designate this man's home as a national monument.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesar_Chavez
I hope everyone has heard of Cesar Chavez. I wonder how many people are aware that he was vegan, and a supporter of animal rights. So not only did he fight his entire life for better conditions for farm workers, he also had room to think of the humane treatment of animals as well.
I also wonder how many people are aware of the brutally hard hands on work that for instance grape vineyard workers do to get those grapes to market. Backbreaking work in 100 degree weather, I see them picking grapes by hand to this day. Waving and smiling to me as I walk by them on my breaks. Years ago they had to endure sucking fumes from pesticides and falling down dead from heat and exhaustion. Cesar Chavez historically changed conditions for our farm workers. Just goes to show that a great person can care for people AND animals.
“Once social change begins, it cannot be reversed. You cannot un-educate the person who has learned to read. You cannot humiliate the person who feels pride. You cannot oppress the people who are not afraid anymore."

Cesar Chavez

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#173406 Oct 6, 2012
hiss of death wrote:
Hi gang ! Hope you are all doing well.
Doing well. Thanks.
Good to see you again here Hiss.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173407 Oct 6, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever made you think that to show a caring for more than one species on this planet was an impossibility, no matter how "great" the person may be?
It appears Austin's age of a whopping twelve is finally catching up with him. This week he has begun to show signs of having a problem. It could be an injury from playing, but we can't tell what hurts him. But my hunch is something is very wrong.:(

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#173408 Oct 6, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
It appears Austin's age of a whopping twelve is finally catching up with him. This week he has begun to show signs of having a problem. It could be an injury from playing, but we can't tell what hurts him. But my hunch is something is very wrong.:(
I am distressed to hear that.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173409 Oct 6, 2012
Looks like winter is upon us.
http://kingfm.com/fatal-crash-shuts-down-i-80...

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#173410 Oct 6, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
Looks like winter is upon us.
http://kingfm.com/fatal-crash-shuts-down-i-80...
I wonder how many of the victims were from the lowlands in other parts of the country.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173411 Oct 6, 2012
IMGKNEE wrote:
President Obama is coming here Monday to designate this man's home as a national monument.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesar_Chavez
I hope everyone has heard of Cesar Chavez. I wonder how many people are aware that he was vegan, and a supporter of animal rights. So not only did he fight his entire life for better conditions for farm workers, he also had room to think of the humane treatment of animals as well.
I also wonder how many people are aware of the brutally hard hands on work that for instance grape vineyard workers do to get those grapes to market. Backbreaking work in 100 degree weather, I see them picking grapes by hand to this day. Waving and smiling to me as I walk by them on my breaks. Years ago they had to endure sucking fumes from pesticides and falling down dead from heat and exhaustion. Cesar Chavez historically changed conditions for our farm workers. Just goes to show that a great person can care for people AND animals.
"I see them picking grapes by hand to this day. Waving and smiling to me as I walk by them on my breaks."

If I had a job like that, I'd be waving and smiling too. I love anything and everything outdoors. Every summer I tell myself I'm going to work on a farm picking strawberries or shoveling horse dung or something, but it never seems to happen. I work too many hours at my other job and I can't put myself in a position of having other commitments should work need me for hours or days I am not scheduled to work.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying what the grape vine pickers do isn't hard work and that they don't have days when they are absolutely miserable and suffering in the heat. But heck, there's times I have that where I work too. I'm only saying that just because someone's work is hard, doesn't mean it isn't enjoyable.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173412 Oct 6, 2012
IMGKNEE wrote:
President Obama is coming here Monday to designate this man's home as a national monument.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesar_Chavez
I hope everyone has heard of Cesar Chavez. I wonder how many people are aware that he was vegan, and a supporter of animal rights. So not only did he fight his entire life for better conditions for farm workers, he also had room to think of the humane treatment of animals as well.
I also wonder how many people are aware of the brutally hard hands on work that for instance grape vineyard workers do to get those grapes to market. Backbreaking work in 100 degree weather, I see them picking grapes by hand to this day. Waving and smiling to me as I walk by them on my breaks. Years ago they had to endure sucking fumes from pesticides and falling down dead from heat and exhaustion. Cesar Chavez historically changed conditions for our farm workers. Just goes to show that a great person can care for people AND animals.
BTW, I never heard of the guy, but thanks for posting this. I believe there are more people than not that care for people AND animals.

“I Love California”

Since: Jul 08

In Cali..of course!

#173413 Oct 6, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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"I see them picking grapes by hand to this day. Waving and smiling to me as I walk by them on my breaks."
If I had a job like that, I'd be waving and smiling too. I love anything and everything outdoors. Every summer I tell myself I'm going to work on a farm picking strawberries or shoveling horse dung or something, but it never seems to happen. I work too many hours at my other job and I can't put myself in a position of having other commitments should work need me for hours or days I am not scheduled to work.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying what the grape vine pickers do isn't hard work and that they don't have days when they are absolutely miserable and suffering in the heat. But heck, there's times I have that where I work too. I'm only saying that just because someone's work is hard, doesn't mean it isn't enjoyable.
No offense Raptor, but I think you and I wouldn't last too long in the grape vineyards. And I consider myself an active outdoors person. However, bending hundreds of time in a day wearing thick gloves, covered from head to toe for protection from the sun to pick grapes in the absolute hottest part of summer here...it makes for a tedious long day.

Because my family migrated from Oklahoma to CA, I am of Okie heritage and very proud of it. They did the same thing...my Dad went right to work as a boy in the fields picking anything and everything. He has some stories about how rough it was when he arrived here.

We have talked about this before, we all need to know where our food comes from, and how it gets to our table. Be appreciative of what goes into it.

“I Love California”

Since: Jul 08

In Cali..of course!

#173414 Oct 6, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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BTW, I never heard of the guy, but thanks for posting this. I believe there are more people than not that care for people AND animals.
I remember when I was a tiny girl, I went to the market and the farm workers were picketing. Really a vivid memory for me for whatever reason, I just remember a handful of picketers approaching my Mom and talked to her. One great big guy, and he was scary to me at the time. My Mom just took me by the hand and left. Now I know what it was all about, and I am glad the memory stays with me.

“I Love California”

Since: Jul 08

In Cali..of course!

#173415 Oct 6, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever made you think that to show a caring for more than one species on this planet was an impossibility, no matter how "great" the person may be?
Some of the hunters on here (and this goes way back) would say that animal activists, or animal rights supporters cared more about animals than people....or didn't care about people at all. So I am quick to point out that a man who committed his whole life to better the lives of people that desperately needed help, also had concern anout the welfare of animals as well. It's nice to point out how possible it actually is.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#173416 Oct 7, 2012
IMGKNEE wrote:
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Some of the hunters on here (and this goes way back) would say that animal activists, or animal rights supporters cared more about animals than people....or didn't care about people at all. So I am quick to point out that a man who committed his whole life to better the lives of people that desperately needed help, also had concern anout the welfare of animals as well. It's nice to point out how possible it actually is.
I suppose it is.
There are also folks out there who had this caring for animals and were considered "great" by some folk's standards. People like Hitler for example. The jury is still out on Ingrid Newkirk I guess.
I just found it odd I guess, how you worded it.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#173417 Oct 8, 2012
Medicinebow wrote:
<quoted text>
If it were me i'd buy another lens. Take a look at this.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/351542-...
It probably isn't worth fixing the P&S camera. I know the lens I listed isn't cheap but it's perfect for landscapes.
Would I also need to buy a seperate filter for this?

“I'm a humane bowhunter”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#173418 Oct 8, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
Would I also need to buy a seperate filter for this?
It takes a 77mm filter if you don't already have one. This is not a macro lens.

Try an extension tube to use this as a macro lens. It is not a dedicated macro lens.

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