Feeling Empowered

Feeling Empowered

There are 3096 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from May 22, 2007, titled Feeling Empowered. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Many in the religious community have visited Empowerment Temple African Methodist Episcopal Church, including Bishop T.D. Jakes, mentor to the Rev.

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anonymous 2

Macomb, MI

#378 Jul 15, 2007
Just so you know you are wrong he gave a public announcement today! please check before you speak about others.
Maybe you should get todays tape so that you can see exactly what he said today.
Anonymous wrote:
PASTOR JAMAL HARRISON BRYANT HAS FATHERED TWO ILLEGITAMTE
CHILDREN DURING HIS TENURE AT EMPOWERMENT TEMPLE. HE HAS A CHILD
THAT IS SEVEN YEARS OLD, THAT HE DOES NOT ACKNOWLEGE. HE ALLEGEDLY
THREATENED THE CHILDS MOTHER THAT IF SHE MADE HER CHILD PUBLIC HE
WOULD HAVE HER KILLED. MOST RECENTLY HE HAS FATHERED A CHILD WITH
ONE OF HIS MEMBERS, HE HAD A PEACE ORDER PLACED AGAINST HER IN
FEBRUARY. TO DATE PASTOR BRYANT HAS NOT ISSUED A PUBLIC STATEMENT.
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TO THE NATIONS

Atlanta, GA

#379 Jul 15, 2007
Dr. Jamal Bryant is a good man and still a man of GOD! There has to be a side of this story (his version) that none of are aware of and in time, I'm certain he will address it! I suppose many of you aren't aware of the company that Jamal sits in. What about DAVID? He had Bathsheba's husband placed on the front line so he could have her and God said this was a man after his own heart. What about SOLOMON? The WORD of the God tells us that he was the WISEST of ALL men! he had over 300 wives and 400 concubines yet God STILL used him as well.

I've been following Dr. Bryant for several years now and I will tell you, he's a typical Morehouse man that is extremely Charismatic and does LOVE the LORD! You don't get through Morehouse College, Duke Univeristy, and Oxford University by being completely stupid. Are YOU who are casting stones at this man, sin free? Now what has happened with Dr. Bryant, his family, and all of his children has produced so much controversy, dialogue, and sadness. If WE as Christians, humble ourselves, intercede for he and his family, can't we implore the restoration POWER of God to heal this land too! Is this situation too BIG for our GOD. We're talking about the SAME GOD who made the world, mankind, and everything in it. The SAME GOD who is Alpha and Omega, he's El Shaddai, Jehovah Jireh, Jehovah Tsidkenu, Jehoavh Rapha, etc. Be it Crystal, Michele, Gizelle, or Bianca, all of these women need our support, prayers, and love! Dr. Bryant needs that too! God WILL restore this man and his family. Time has a way of healing all things.

I think Dr. Bryant has learned a lifelong lesson from this experience. I truly believe that GOD wants all of us to learn a valuable lesson from Dr. Bryants's experience. As men and women of God, lets operate in the same love, forgiveness, and empowerment, that God REQUIRES of us. How many of us will allow the sins and judgements of others to stammer our growth in the Word of God. GOD is MUCH BIGGER and will outlast ALL of our SINS! Jesus died for Dr. Bryant too! God knew from the foundation of the world that this would occur and has allowed it to come forward. Do you think God is so shallow that this occurance has a single lesson! NO! God has everything perfectly planned for our lives. This includes Dr Bryant, his wife, and all of his children and their mothers. I don't think Dr. Bryant is looking to be excused for his behavior, just forgiven. Let's pray and know that restoration for him, Empowerment Temple, and the Body of Christ, is already here! Let's claim it in Jesus name!
Neecey

New York, NY

#380 Jul 15, 2007
TO THE NATIONS wrote:
Dr. Jamal Bryant is a good man and still a man of GOD! There has to be a side of this story (his version) that none of are aware of and in time, I'm certain he will address it! I suppose many of you aren't aware of the company that Jamal sits in. What about DAVID? He had Bathsheba's husband placed on the front line so he could have her and God said this was a man after his own heart. What about SOLOMON? The WORD of the God tells us that he was the WISEST of ALL men! he had over 300 wives and 400 concubines yet God STILL used him as well.
I've been following Dr. Bryant for several years now and I will tell you, he's a typical Morehouse man that is extremely Charismatic and does LOVE the LORD! You don't get through Morehouse College, Duke Univeristy, and Oxford University by being completely stupid. Are YOU who are casting stones at this man, sin free? Now what has happened with Dr. Bryant, his family, and all of his children has produced so much controversy, dialogue, and sadness. If WE as Christians, humble ourselves, intercede for he and his family, can't we implore the restoration POWER of God to heal this land too! Is this situation too BIG for our GOD. We're talking about the SAME GOD who made the world, mankind, and everything in it. The SAME GOD who is Alpha and Omega, he's El Shaddai, Jehovah Jireh, Jehovah Tsidkenu, Jehoavh Rapha, etc. Be it Crystal, Michele, Gizelle, or Bianca, all of these women need our support, prayers, and love! Dr. Bryant needs that too! God WILL restore this man and his family. Time has a way of healing all things.
I think Dr. Bryant has learned a lifelong lesson from this experience. I truly believe that GOD wants all of us to learn a valuable lesson from Dr. Bryants's experience. As men and women of God, lets operate in the same love, forgiveness, and empowerment, that God REQUIRES of us. How many of us will allow the sins and judgements of others to stammer our growth in the Word of God. GOD is MUCH BIGGER and will outlast ALL of our SINS! Jesus died for Dr. Bryant too! God knew from the foundation of the world that this would occur and has allowed it to come forward. Do you think God is so shallow that this occurance has a single lesson! NO! God has everything perfectly planned for our lives. This includes Dr Bryant, his wife, and all of his children and their mothers. I don't think Dr. Bryant is looking to be excused for his behavior, just forgiven. Let's pray and know that restoration for him, Empowerment Temple, and the Body of Christ, is already here! Let's claim it in Jesus name!
No, JB won't address this in time, because he said that today would be the only time he would address it. How arrogant. He left more questions open than answered.

I don't know why people keep bringing up OT characters regarding JB. He is not a king, he is not royalty. He is a pastor, and by the Bible's own instructions regarding pastors, he is disqualified. Heck, by the NT's own instructions regarding pastors, neither David nor Solomon could have served in that capacity.

Use your brains. They are there for a reason. People want to pick and choose what Scriptures they throw around for what reason. That's why they look so hypocritical and inconsistent.
Neecey

New York, NY

#381 Jul 15, 2007
The announcement during the 3rd service was even more confusing than during the first 2. He mentioned both children's names during the first service, only one name during the second service, and none during the third (just a child born 8 years ago). Slick Willie.
Jamal bryant the Mack

Las Vegas, NV

#382 Jul 15, 2007
TO THE NATIONS wrote:
Dr. Jamal Bryant is a good man and still a man of GOD! There has to be a side of this story (his version) that none of are aware of and in time, I'm certain he will address it! I suppose many of you aren't aware of the company that Jamal sits in. What about DAVID? He had Bathsheba's husband placed on the front line so he could have her and God said this was a man after his own heart. What about SOLOMON? The WORD of the God tells us that he was the WISEST of ALL men! he had over 300 wives and 400 concubines yet God STILL used him as well.
I've been following Dr. Bryant for several years now and I will tell you, he's a typical Morehouse man that is extremely Charismatic and does LOVE the LORD! You don't get through Morehouse College, Duke Univeristy, and Oxford University by being completely stupid. Are YOU who are casting stones at this man, sin free? Now what has happened with Dr. Bryant, his family, and all of his children has produced so much controversy, dialogue, and sadness. If WE as Christians, humble ourselves, intercede for he and his family, can't we implore the restoration POWER of God to heal this land too! Is this situation too BIG for our GOD. We're talking about the SAME GOD who made the world, mankind, and everything in it. The SAME GOD who is Alpha and Omega, he's El Shaddai, Jehovah Jireh, Jehovah Tsidkenu, Jehoavh Rapha, etc. Be it Crystal, Michele, Gizelle, or Bianca, all of these women need our support, prayers, and love! Dr. Bryant needs that too! God WILL restore this man and his family. Time has a way of healing all things.
I think Dr. Bryant has learned a lifelong lesson from this experience. I truly believe that GOD wants all of us to learn a valuable lesson from Dr. Bryants's experience. As men and women of God, lets operate in the same love, forgiveness, and empowerment, that God REQUIRES of us. How many of us will allow the sins and judgements of others to stammer our growth in the Word of God. GOD is MUCH BIGGER and will outlast ALL of our SINS! Jesus died for Dr. Bryant too! God knew from the foundation of the world that this would occur and has allowed it to come forward. Do you think God is so shallow that this occurance has a single lesson! NO! God has everything perfectly planned for our lives. This includes Dr Bryant, his wife, and all of his children and their mothers. I don't think Dr. Bryant is looking to be excused for his behavior, just forgiven. Let's pray and know that restoration for him, Empowerment Temple, and the Body of Christ, is already here! Let's claim it in Jesus name!
How are you so sure that he "got through" Oxford? By all accounts, he only attended Oxford for a summer session and does not have a degree from that institution. Don't be fooled by his biography. If it is true that this man does not have a PHD from Oxford then he is a big liar. He has babies out of wedlock, and lies about his credentials. Do you really need a ton of bricks to hit you on the head to see this man is a fraud?
Jamal bryant the Mack

Las Vegas, NV

#383 Jul 15, 2007
this guy is crazy. how stupid does he think people are?

Since: Jul 07

Las Vegas, NV

#384 Jul 15, 2007
TO THE NATIONS wrote:
Dr. Jamal Bryant is a good man and still a man of GOD! There has to be a side of this story (his version) that none of are aware of and in time, I'm certain he will address it! I suppose many of you aren't aware of the company that Jamal sits in. What about DAVID? He had Bathsheba's husband placed on the front line so he could have her and God said this was a man after his own heart. What about SOLOMON? The WORD of the God tells us that he was the WISEST of ALL men! he had over 300 wives and 400 concubines yet God STILL used him as well.
I've been following Dr. Bryant for several years now and I will tell you, he's a typical Morehouse man that is extremely Charismatic and does LOVE the LORD! You don't get through Morehouse College, Duke Univeristy, and Oxford University by being completely stupid. Are YOU who are casting stones at this man, sin free? Now what has happened with Dr. Bryant, his family, and all of his children has produced so much controversy, dialogue, and sadness. If WE as Christians, humble ourselves, intercede for he and his family, can't we implore the restoration POWER of God to heal this land too! Is this situation too BIG for our GOD. We're talking about the SAME GOD who made the world, mankind, and everything in it. The SAME GOD who is Alpha and Omega, he's El Shaddai, Jehovah Jireh, Jehovah Tsidkenu, Jehoavh Rapha, etc. Be it Crystal, Michele, Gizelle, or Bianca, all of these women need our support, prayers, and love! Dr. Bryant needs that too! God WILL restore this man and his family. Time has a way of healing all things.
I think Dr. Bryant has learned a lifelong lesson from this experience. I truly believe that GOD wants all of us to learn a valuable lesson from Dr. Bryants's experience. As men and women of God, lets operate in the same love, forgiveness, and empowerment, that God REQUIRES of us. How many of us will allow the sins and judgements of others to stammer our growth in the Word of God. GOD is MUCH BIGGER and will outlast ALL of our SINS! Jesus died for Dr. Bryant too! God knew from the foundation of the world that this would occur and has allowed it to come forward. Do you think God is so shallow that this occurance has a single lesson! NO! God has everything perfectly planned for our lives. This includes Dr Bryant, his wife, and all of his children and their mothers. I don't think Dr. Bryant is looking to be excused for his behavior, just forgiven. Let's pray and know that restoration for him, Empowerment Temple, and the Body of Christ, is already here! Let's claim it in Jesus name!
How are you so sure that he "went through" OXford? By all accounts, he only attended there for a summer and did not receive a degree from that institution. If this is so, then he is truly a big liar. Let's see, babies out of wedlock, lying about your educational background, what else? Do you really need a ton of bricks to hit you on the head to see that this man is a fraud??
confused and confounded

Toms River, NJ

#385 Jul 15, 2007
Neecey wrote:
The announcement during the 3rd service was even more confusing than during the first 2. He mentioned both children's names during the first service, only one name during the second service, and none during the third (just a child born 8 years ago). Slick Willie.
Neecey, I'm watching the 3rd service now, what exactly did he say in the 1st service... Did he acknowledge that both children were exactly his, or did he mention them simply to confront rumors of them both
Wow

United States

#386 Jul 15, 2007
Today, I tuned into EMT via StreamingFaith. I did not catch the first part of what he said before he started his sermon, but Dr. Jamal Harrison Bryant said that there is NOT a 17 year old pregnant and NO ONE in the choir is pregnant.
And I quote: "The only woman in my bed and in my house is my wife, First Lady Gizelle. I told her that if she leaves me, I'm going with her. I'll follow her wherever she goes ..."
Before he said all this, he was talking about something else that had to do with a child. I had stepped away for a moment, so I missed the first part. Did anyone catch it?
Wow

United States

#387 Jul 15, 2007
confused and confounded wrote:
<quoted text>
Neecey, I'm watching the 3rd service now, what exactly did he say in the 1st service... Did he acknowledge that both children were exactly his, or did he mention them simply to confront rumors of them both
I agree .. the 3rd service announcement was confusing ... who else saw it?

Since: Jul 07

United States

#388 Jul 15, 2007
confused and confounded wrote:
<quoted text>
Neecey, I'm watching the 3rd service now, what exactly did he say in the 1st service... Did he acknowledge that both children were exactly his, or did he mention them simply to confront rumors of them both
I watched thrrd service but stepped out of the room momentarily. When I came back, Dr. Bryant had already started sharing info with the congregation.

The only things I heard him say was that, and I quote "There is NO 17 year old pregnant. Ain't nobody in the choir pregnant either. The only woman in my bed and in my house is my wife, First Lady Gizelle. I told her that if she leaves me, I'm going with her.*jokingly/lovingly* I'll follow her wherever she goes."

He spoke about First Lady Gizelle's strength, thanked his haters for airing rumors and then said, "I'm done with that issue ... on to Luke Chapter ...."

Someone then yelled out "We love you Jamal" The congregation joined in clapping for him.

Neecey .. what did I miss??
Neecey

New York, NY

#389 Jul 15, 2007
confused and confounded wrote:
<quoted text>
Neecey, I'm watching the 3rd service now, what exactly did he say in the 1st service... Did he acknowledge that both children were exactly his, or did he mention them simply to confront rumors of them both
During the first, he opened mentioning Topaz's name as his daughter (he did not say when she was born), then brought up this meeting he had with his inner circle 7 years ago where he told them he had *A* child out of wedlock, then he slipped in the name Naomi and said there were obstacles in the way of their relationship.

He did it so slick, I was ready to believe that Topaz and Naomi were the same girl :-D.

In the second service, he didn't mention Topaz's name at all, just said "Naomi, Daddy loves you." However, the meeting he was supposed to have had was moved back to EIGHT (8) years ago.

See how he's playing this?

You can see for yourself what he said in the third service. Basically a bunch of nothing!

Wake up y'all, the Emperor don't have no clothes on!
Neecey

New York, NY

#390 Jul 15, 2007
This man's obscuring of the truth is going to come back and bite him in the behind. He's trying to sound like Bill Clinton up there, but he's made things worse.

It would have been better to not make an announcement than to do something half-baked.

It's really disappointing that he's parsing words, and couldn't just say either, "I've been faithful to my wife, so there is no way anybody could be pregnant by me" or "I haven't been faithful, and I'm sorry" or "There is no truth to the rumors you've heard."

He's shucking and jiving and he has a whole bunch of sheeple swallowing everything he dishes out.

Since: Jul 07

United States

#391 Jul 15, 2007
Neecey wrote:
This man's obscuring of the truth is going to come back and bite him in the behind. He's trying to sound like Bill Clinton up there, but he's made things worse.
It would have been better to not make an announcement than to do something half-baked.
It's really disappointing that he's parsing words, and couldn't just say either, "I've been faithful to my wife, so there is no way anybody could be pregnant by me" or "I haven't been faithful, and I'm sorry" or "There is no truth to the rumors you've heard."
He's shucking and jiving and he has a whole bunch of sheeple swallowing everything he dishes out.
I was honestly SHOCKED to see First Lady Gizelle at church this morning. It threw me off a bit. So after his announcement, I was still confused. I never heard him come out and openly say that there is a child on the way.

Here's my thing ... HE made the announcement to the church that he cheated, or so it's said that he did a few weeks ago. So why come back NOW and make it seem like everything that's being said is a lie? Jamal is confusing himself!!!

Also, I noticed that Gizelle had one of the babies in 2nd service but not in third. It's just too much going on with them.

I can only hope for the best for both Pastor & First Lady Gizelle. I would never wish evil on either one of them. She looked really happy in 3rd service after his announcement. Hopefully they will work it out.

And Neecey, I do believe that Topaz and Naomi are two different children.

*I hope someone else saw the services or went to church today.*
Neecey

New York, NY

#392 Jul 15, 2007
It's funny how two people can look at a face and see 2 different things, but such is human nature. When I saw Gizelle's reaction, I didn't see somebody who looked "really happy." I saw somebody who looked a tiny bit cynical. She was chewing gum (very tastefully) and just kind of gave him a few tiny nods and a look like "Negro please."

I don't know how somebody could look "really happy" when her husband shucked and jived and couldn't even say something definitive about their relationship like: "This is the woman I love, I married and have been FAITHFUL TO." i mean they haven't even been married that long. He couldn't keep it in his pants for a few years? He couldn't declare his love for her unequivocally?

Amazing.
Inquiring MInd

Hampstead, MD

#393 Jul 15, 2007
Delighted wrote:
<quoted text>
I was honestly SHOCKED to see First Lady Gizelle at church this morning. It threw me off a bit. So after his announcement, I was still confused. I never heard him come out and openly say that there is a child on the way.
Here's my thing ... HE made the announcement to the church that he cheated, or so it's said that he did a few weeks ago. So why come back NOW and make it seem like everything that's being said is a lie? Jamal is confusing himself!!!
Also, I noticed that Gizelle had one of the babies in 2nd service but not in third. It's just too much going on with them.
I can only hope for the best for both Pastor & First Lady Gizelle. I would never wish evil on either one of them. She looked really happy in 3rd service after his announcement. Hopefully they will work it out.
And Neecey, I do believe that Topaz and Naomi are two different children.
*I hope someone else saw the services or went to church today.*
The three girls WERE in church today. Gizelle had one, Grace was sitting on her own, and Rev. C. Bryant had the other twin.

Topaz and Naomi are two separate children.

While JHB didn't address the reason why he doesn't have more contact with Naomi in church, I believe he will have to give a reason if this story continues in the MEDIA.

This Internet thing should be done.

And, the bottom line is this, IMHO:

Unless folks can provide irrefutable proof of JHB's misdeeds, folks need to stop talking about the man.

After all, none of us are perfect, no matter our chosed profession (secular or ministerial).

Be Blessed, everyone.
Catholic Help

Washington, DC

#394 Jul 15, 2007
Catholic Help please correct me if im wrong?...i know this isnt about catholocism but...but don't Catholics believe that Mary was also holy...which goes against the main idea of Christianity, that Jesus was the only one who could have died for our sins. If Mary was holy...then why did God send Jesus? Mary was sure enough a virgin but her being holy would be basically calling Gad a liar...and i know for sure that he isn't.
tiger80

Brandenburg, KY

#395 Jul 15, 2007
Mary is considered holy in the traditional since of Catholicism. In about the 15th century at the Council of Trent when the term "holy Mary" has its roots. Catholicism like all other practises of modern christianity are founded on tradition ONLY! Inspite of what many would like to believe.Hope this helps.
Daddy Devine

Baltimore, MD

#396 Jul 15, 2007
We must understand that when GOD calls you to preach his words he also use your deeds and action as examples to the people of what they can become. Anyone who wants to teach and preach GODS word their behavior should be in accord with GODS word.We live in a time when immorality is running rampant in our communities we do not need pastors who add to the problems in our communities creating babies out of wedlock and denying the child that's the behaviour of some irresponible teenager,not that of a preacher.
Anonymous

AOL

#397 Jul 15, 2007
anonymous 2 wrote:
Just so you know you are wrong he gave a public announcement today! please check before you speak about others.
Maybe you should get todays tape so that you can see exactly what he said today.
<quoted text>
Of course he gave a statement today, I posted this How many weeks ago?

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