Rays feast again on O's pitching

Rays feast again on O's pitching

There are 45 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Sep 1, 2008, titled Rays feast again on O's pitching. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. - Third baseman Aubrey Huff was in a crouch, his elbows resting on his knees, his eyes staring straight ahead.

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Bob Sterling VA

Fairfax, VA

#1 Sep 1, 2008
And who would you suggest those pitchers are who can go to the mound and get people out. Seems there is nobody on this team capable of doing that!

“Orioles, Colts, Bullets ”

Since: Apr 08

Brewster, NY

#2 Sep 1, 2008

"Hey Orioles fan from NY - you sound as objective as MSNBC is on politics...we have "the best" of nothing in this league. The only way forward is to recognize where you are - sure as fans we don't count - but your comments are laughable. We have one starting pitcher and an ability to hit in spurts - that doesn't equal a .500 baseball team. What it equals is what we're seeing which is games ending by the 4th inning. I respect your loyalty, but i am gald you're not running the team because if you were you'd see way too much good on this roster. I am optimistic about the future, but it has little to do with the lineup at the major League level. You should give the Kool Aide a rest for awhile."

I said we have ONE OF THES BEST bullpens in the league, and we do. Don't put words in my mouth. And we also have ONE OF THES BEST offenses in the leasgue. If you don't believe me, look it up, genius. And stop putting words in my mouth. In NEVER said anything about us having "the best starting pitching."

If we didn't have "ONE OF THE BEST" bullpens AND offenses, there is NO WAY we would have the 63 wins that we do have this season.

“Orioles, Colts, Bullets ”

Since: Apr 08

Brewster, NY

#3 Sep 1, 2008
In case anyone suspects that our bullpen IS NOT very good, here is food for thought: If The Mets had our bullpen, they would be much better than they already are. As it is, The Mets are 76-61, and in first place in their division by one game. The Mets' one glaring weakness has been their bullpen. Billy Wagner, Aaron Heilman, Dunaer Sanchez, Pedro Feliciano and company have had their bright moments, but overall, they have been shaky. Aaron Heilman has been the most overworked relief pitcher in baseball, but the rest of the Mets' bullpen has no such excuse. What the Mets wouldn't give to have Jimmy Johnson and company to be there for them late in the game. And yes, obviously, what WE wouldn't give to have THEIR starting pitching (Johan Santana, Oliver Perez, Mike Pelfrey, Pedro Martinez, and John Maine).
Joe Delaware

Gurnee, IL

#4 Sep 1, 2008
Einstein says that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. It is time to stop doing the same thing over and over. There are young arms down on the farm that need to come here and get a chance. Also guys like Montanez and Salazar need more chances. Olsen and Burres and Cabrerra are not going to make it. Hayden Penn should have been gone long ago. Gutherie is a good number two or three starter. We need a number one guy backed up by two of our best prospects. Tampa Bay let their now great pitchers pitch their way through the bad times until they made it. Sit Olsen and Burres and Cabrerra and play the Bowie birds pitching staff. Play Montanez and Salazar and Weiters and let them get more experience. You will fill the stadium.
Saint Bobby Bowden

Tampa, FL

#5 Sep 1, 2008
Now dadgummit, y'all ease up on those pitchers . After all, it ain't like they shot the President.

Columbia, MD

#6 Sep 1, 2008
Dave Trembley - 4 more years! Look at how he has this team fighting and trying hard; no tanking it in here with this guy - even though he set a MLB record last year losing 30-3 and went something like 4-30 to end last season. Yeah, he is a great manager who tells it like it is and his team won't quit on him. MFLOL.
Oh yeah, his players bite; so did Mazilli's and Perlozzo's, look what that got them.

Walled Lake, MI

#7 Sep 1, 2008
You have to hand it to these guys. Raise you hand if you bought into the Birdland ads and the wiff of a competitive team a few months ago. There's a wiff in the air now and it smells like do-do. I haven't seen a game in years and I'm not going back. If I could only figure out a way to get Comcast to stop charging me for MASN my $$ spent on Angelos would be zero.
College Professor

Salisbury, MD

#8 Sep 1, 2008
Well, let's see if Dave Trembly can right the ship before it sinks to the bottom. A lackluster last month of the season would undo the progress enjoyed earlier in the Spring. We're better than this and we deserve a better ending than this.

“Ravens/Orioles fan in Jax Fla”

Since: Sep 07

Glen Burnie,Md(Jax Fla now)

#9 Sep 1, 2008
I hope they win another game before the season ends,this is horrible,the hitters bust their butts and the pitchers give it right back,McPhail better correct this before next year,can you imagine what the attendence is going to be for the remainig games at the Yard this year,about 10,000 per game if they are lucky,they will be Called the Rays of the north but with out a good team.

Plymouth Meeting, PA

#10 Sep 1, 2008
Unfortunately the Orioles are once again going into their anual late season melt down. Facing teams with playoff hopes alive, a pitching staff to quote Jim Palmer "for most part does not belong pitching at this level" and the offense cooling off(injuries don't help Jones, Mora) add it all up and you are looking at a VERY UGLY MONTH OF SEPT!
Prospect Expert

United States

#11 Sep 1, 2008
Well, when you don't do things like the 29 other ballclubs and stubbornly sign scrap pile journeyman types to flesh out the big league roster, last place is where you can expect to finish 10 out of 10 times!

Jordan is the only competent employee the O's have. My guess is the batboy and ball girl are inept as well....
Bob S

Morrill, ME

#12 Sep 1, 2008
The Lost Weekend.

“Too Much to Learn.”

Since: Aug 07

Centreville, Maryland

#13 Sep 1, 2008
Prospect Expert wrote:
Well, when you don't do things like the 29 other ballclubs and stubbornly sign scrap pile journeyman types to flesh out the big league roster, last place is where you can expect to finish 10 out of 10 times!
Jordan is the only competent employee the O's have. My guess is the batboy and ball girl are inept as well....
Well...the third baseline ball girl neatly fielded a fair ball and was called for interference just a couple of weeks ago.

Baltimore, MD

#14 Sep 1, 2008
So what's the difference between this year and the last 10? Absolutely nothing. I'm sick of it.
Cabrera is a stiff

Manchester, NH

#15 Sep 1, 2008
Look at the bright side. At least the O's pitching staff set a record in Tampa Bay this weekend !!!

United States

#16 Sep 1, 2008
My 2008 Expectations

About 64 Wins- Check
Improved farm play- Check
Jones plays well-check
Continued purging of payroll-check
Sign the 4th pick-check
Make most games interesting-check
B-rob has a great year to enhance value-check
The return from the two big trades begins to show its promise-check
Wieters shows he's not overhyped-double check
Secure another top ten draft pick-on schedule

Walker and Bradford traded-mixed results
Hernandez traded-not happening
Millar traded-not happening
Payton traded-not happening
Huff traded-not happening yet
Mora traded-not realistic
One of Liz, Olson , D.Cabrera, Penn or Burress show they can become a part of the future- not happening yet

All in all about what I expected. We are still a good two years away from schocking the world.

“Ravens/Orioles fan in Jax Fla”

Since: Sep 07

Glen Burnie,Md(Jax Fla now)

#17 Sep 1, 2008
I hope to hell that people like Millar,Hernadez,Payton and 2 thirds of the pitching staff are gone by next spring.
Fred from Cape Cod

Dennis, MA

#18 Sep 1, 2008
I read a comment on these pages a few days ago that we should dump Jamie Walker as our left set-up man and use Alberto Castillo in that role. The writer was half-right. Its just that we need two shovels instead of one.

United States

#19 Sep 1, 2008
My 2009 Expectations

1. We are not contending: 64 to 70 wins tops
2 Wieters wins ROY award
3. Nick, Adam, Luke and Nolan form the best outfield in the division.
4. 2 of the arms from Bowie join Guthrie to give us 3 reliable arms at some point next year.
5. With the return of Ray and Albers we have one of the strongest bullpens in the division.
6. Secure another top ten pick
7. Nick locked up for 5-6 years
8. Thats it for now, subject to winters worth of change.

United States

#20 Sep 1, 2008
Is the answer really in the draft? On air yesterday the O's commentators said only 3 of the Tampa players were originally drafted by them. I think the O's staff that evaluates the league's players are a weak link in this organization. Obviously the coaches and top management are not much better. It actually HURTS to watch this team, especially the pitching. No player, not ONE, is truly coveted by any contending team. This year's team is not a bridge to future contention, but a contination of the past decade.

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