Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 326717 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#310470 Sep 7, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Can Christian kids say the Lord's Prayer as a group before class or is it banned?
Can Muslim kids whip out a prayer rug at noon, as a group, in an American public school, or is it banned?

Can native American kids pass a peace pipe, do a rain dance, or perform coming of age rituals, as a group, in an American public school, or is it banned?

Can Wiccan kids perform a healing ritual, or a binding, or a communion with the Four Corners, as a group in an American public school, or is it banned?

When one approaches freedom of/from religion, in the context of the Constitution of the United States, one has to take ALL CITIZENS into consideration.

When one approaches religious freedom from the standpoint of religious persecution, one would be wise to consider one's own GUILT AND SHAME on that score, Christian.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#310471 Sep 7, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
No it would be your choice to do the right thing or the wrong thing. Okay, my opinion equates to disapproval of killing another human.
Guess what....SO DOES MINE.

I refuse to kill a human within me, unless I'm exercising my right to self defense.

Do you get that at all?

How my opinion shapes my behavior?

Here's the deal. "The right thing" and "The wrong thing" ARE SUBJECTIVE. I TRULY believe that I don't have the moral authority to subsume another person's morality into my own.

I'm glad there are laws regulating abortion. I'm crushed that they aren't enforced, in a way that KEEPS abortion safe for women who need it. I refuse to condemn the women for whom I "approve" abortion, to the necessity for seeking it outside the law, by supporting legislation which may prevent them from accessing it. If that makes me a monster, Ink, so be it. I'll not be telling other women not to do what I did. My embryo is just as dead as theirs will be, and they're the ones who are charged with making that decision.

Once you understand that, you may be able to quit smacking others in an attempt to justify your stance. At least, I hope so, for your sake.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#310472 Sep 7, 2013
First you get down on your knees,
Fiddle with your rosaries,
Bow your head with great respect,
And genuflect, genuflect, genuflect!

Do whatever steps you want, if
You have cleared them with the Pontiff.
Everybody say his own
Kyrie eleison,
Doin' the Vatican Rag.

Get in line in that processional,
Step into that small confessional,
There, the guy who's got religion'll
Tell you if your sin's original.
If it is, try playing it safer,
Drink the wine and chew the wafer,
Two, four, six, eight,
Time to transubstantiate!

So get down upon your knees,
Fiddle with your rosaries,
Bow your head with great respect,
And genuflect, genuflect, genuflect!

Make a cross on your abdomen,
When in Rome do like a Roman,
Ave Maria,
Gee it's good to see ya,
Gettin' ecstatic an'
Sorta dramatic an'
Doin' the Vatican Rag!
--
Tom Lehrer
Forum wrote:
<quoted text>
Why? Forgive them for they know not
what they do? Why?
HAIL M a r y,
queen of heavenly spheres!
Hail, who the angelic
host reveres.
Hail, fruitful root,
hail, sacred gate!
W h e n c e the world's
light derives its date.
O g l o r I o u s
maid, with beauty blessed!
Give me power against thy
enemies.
Amen.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#310473 Sep 7, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
I wouldn't have a problem with it as long as it doesn't take any longer that a short prayer.
What, so you would encourage every child to pray as the spirit moves them, as the leader of a group prayer in every public school, every day? Every class period? Every minute?

Because that's what it would entail, honey. Personally, I think excluding group prayer across the board is more sensible...but maybe you'd LIKE the entire schoolday to be taken up by prayer...

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#310474 Sep 7, 2013
Since I TAUGHT safe sex seminars for years, yes I did. But then, I didn't say just condoms, did I?

BTW--the first rule of safe sex is that you are responsible for your own health. If your partner plays irresponsibly and you allow it, you do not have any right to complain.
sassy jm wrote:
<quoted text>Petey, condoms don't protect 100%. You DID not know that??

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#310475 Sep 7, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
First you get down on your knees,
Fiddle with your rosaries,
Bow your head with great respect,
And genuflect, genuflect, genuflect!
Do whatever steps you want, if
You have cleared them with the Pontiff.
Everybody say his own
Kyrie eleison,
Doin' the Vatican Rag.
Get in line in that processional,
Step into that small confessional,
There, the guy who's got religion'll
Tell you if your sin's original.
If it is, try playing it safer,
Drink the wine and chew the wafer,
Two, four, six, eight,
Time to transubstantiate!
So get down upon your knees,
Fiddle with your rosaries,
Bow your head with great respect,
And genuflect, genuflect, genuflect!
Make a cross on your abdomen,
When in Rome do like a Roman,
Ave Maria,
Gee it's good to see ya,
Gettin' ecstatic an'
Sorta dramatic an'
Doin' the Vatican Rag!
--
Tom Lehrer
<quoted text>


https://www.youtube.com/watch...

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#310476 Sep 7, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Since I TAUGHT safe sex seminars for years, yes I did. But then, I didn't say just condoms, did I?
BTW--the first rule of safe sex is that you are responsible for your own health. If your partner plays irresponsibly and you allow it, you do not have any right to complain.
<quoted text>
Please pardon my pedantry, but 'allowing' in that circumstance, IMO, is ultimately facilitated by staying in the relationship.

Just saying.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#310477 Sep 7, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>What, so you would encourage every child to pray as the spirit moves them, as the leader of a group prayer in every public school, every day? Every class period? Every minute?
Because that's what it would entail, honey. Personally, I think excluding group prayer across the board is more sensible...but maybe you'd LIKE the entire schoolday to be taken up by prayer...
Of course, she would, and, because she thinks that it's only Christians that would exercise that privilege, she and her fellow godbots fantasize that it would result in lots of safely uneducated Christians trudging lockstep with her lawd's freaky teachings.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#310478 Sep 7, 2013
John-K wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks "Rach!"
:)
Yeah, I don't post much anymore either...
Well, to all, after a visit to Dad's P.C.P. on Thursday, he can finally drive again, and this was the first day both of them have gotten out of the house on their own in perhaps three months...!
And while they bitched and complained about the traffic, and the other shoppers at the supermarket, I think it did them good to get out of the house for a little while.
Friggin' parents...
;P
Best,
John.
Hey if they can bitch and complain then they must be feeling pretty good! Best wishes as always, John.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#310479 Sep 7, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>Can Muslim kids whip out a prayer rug at noon, as a group, in an American public school, or is it banned?
Can native American kids pass a peace pipe, do a rain dance, or perform coming of age rituals, as a group, in an American public school, or is it banned?
Can Wiccan kids perform a healing ritual, or a binding, or a communion with the Four Corners, as a group in an American public school, or is it banned?
When one approaches freedom of/from religion, in the context of the Constitution of the United States, one has to take ALL CITIZENS into consideration.
When one approaches religious freedom from the standpoint of religious persecution, one would be wise to consider one's own GUILT AND SHAME on that score, Christian.
While I'm not 100% on this, I believe that the ceremony of the peace-pipe was used as a "binding" element for antagonistic tribes who were planning to raid or go to war with one another, not to do so.
In that context, it's kind of hard to imagine kids--unless they happen to be members of rival gangs--going through the ritual of smoking a peace-pipe.
That said, I completely agree with the rest of your post; I find myself gnashing my teeth whenever someone says, "It's Freedom OF RELIGION, not FREEDOM FROM RELIGION."
What those folks don't seem to comprehend is that that statement is tantamount to saying that only "religious" people are worthy of freedom. If you're not religious...tough tookies for you.
And, yes--religious freedom is absolutely essential--as long as you believe in the religion "I" do...

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#310480 Sep 7, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey if they can bitch and complain then they must be feeling pretty good! Best wishes as always, John.
Thank you Milady!

:)
JBH

Vancouver, Canada

#310481 Sep 7, 2013
++++
Video: Kerry warns against "appeasement" in Syria
Full story: CBS News
Secretary of State John Kerry continued making the case for military action in Syria on Saturday, warning that the international community must not "be silent spectators to slaughter."
++++++++

Kerry talks like another liar about Syria, in his voice, tone and appearance, like Bush days lying about WMD about Iraq, as another failure.
His pointing to chemical weapons usage of August 21 in Syria is like Colin Powell saying satellite map of WMD in Iraq those days,as unreal but fake.
Count Dracul

New York, NY

#310482 Sep 7, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
It's not simple, it's simple-minded. Your god isn't even proven to exist, much less proven to give or take life. You can believe what you want, but "common sense" tells me deities are made-up entities.
<quoted text>
Nice avatar, Vlad the {impaler} Tepish
Count Dracul

New York, NY

#310483 Sep 7, 2013
John-K wrote:
<quoted text>
While I'm not 100% on this, I believe that the ceremony of the peace-pipe was used as a "binding" element for antagonistic tribes who were planning to raid or go to war with one another, not to do so.
In that context, it's kind of hard to imagine kids--unless they happen to be members of rival gangs--going through the ritual of smoking a peace-pipe.
That said, I completely agree with the rest of your post; I find myself gnashing my teeth whenever someone says, "It's Freedom OF RELIGION, not FREEDOM FROM RELIGION."
What those folks don't seem to comprehend is that that statement is tantamount to saying that only "religious" people are worthy of freedom. If you're not religious...tough tookies for you.
And, yes--religious freedom is absolutely essential--as long as you believe in the religion "I" do...
It was not just the "peace pipe" that deterred them from going to war with each other, it was what was in the pipe they were smoking, Peyote perhaps, they were too wrecked to even get on, and stay on their horses. lol

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#310484 Sep 7, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
I wouldn't have a problem with it as long as it doesn't take any longer that a short prayer.
NO, it takes longer, but now you insist it take no longer than a quick christian prayer? I think the Wiccans should object to the quickness and obviously meaningless of the christians and demand they take the time and detail like the Wiccans! Shoe not so comfortalble on the other foot?

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#310486 Sep 7, 2013
Count Dracul wrote:
<quoted text>
It was not just the "peace pipe" that deterred them from going to war with each other, it was what was in the pipe they were smoking, Peyote perhaps, they were too wrecked to even get on, and stay on their horses. lol
Sweet darlin', if getting wrecked on the natural world prevents us from seeking to war...? Let's get wrecked, and seek the peace.

Why the fluck not?

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#310487 Sep 7, 2013
John-K wrote:
<quoted text>
it's kind of hard to imagine kids--unless they happen to be members of rival gangs--going through the ritual of smoking a peace-pipe.
I imagine it on the regular, John. If that's what it takes, bring it on. They're already smoking everything but their shoes, as it is.

May they attach MEANING to the smoke.

I know I do.

Since: Sep 13

Heidenheim, Germany

#310488 Sep 7, 2013
Morning all..

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#310493 Sep 7, 2013
No matter how much you PLM zombies want to rape the language, an abortion is the termination of a pregnancy; it involves removing the z/e/f from the uterus. Scraping frozen cells out of a petri dish is not the same thing.
sassy jm wrote:
<quoted text> Wrong.
Abortion means to end the life of a human. Location...in the womb...in the petri dish...in the freezer...is irrelevant. Spontaneous abortion is a natural death. Elective abortion is killing.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#310494 Sep 7, 2013
You used part of my post and said it was the point I made, which is completely dishonest. Without BOTH portions, it is no longer my argument--it's yours.
sassy jm wrote:
<quoted text> Drowning is another option. Strangling is yet another. Oh, starvation and beatings is another(someone in NY recently did that to keep her "motherhood is optional not required" motto).
The sane mothers gave their child up for adoption. Killing wasn't even thought of.
Hey, go join that forum that I suggested where women like you support killing instead of prevention or adoption. Birds of a feather.......
And PLEASE keep staying pregnancy free.
My last statement was "stupid" you say? LOL umm....you DO realize that it was cpeters words that I agreed with. So, you actually think HE is stupid. UT OHHHHH!
Of course I left out the condom part. I disagree with the use of artificial birth control. I DO agree with not having sex though(when fertile) IF you must avoid pregnancy for a specific situation.

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