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The Prince

Phillipsburg, NJ

#291936 Apr 6, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a fetus not a child. Will you financially support every so called unborn child if the mother can't?
Yes lets kill unborn children because they hurt the finacncial bottom line or we just don't want them. The human race is doomed to the dark ages of paganism with you folks.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#291937 Apr 6, 2013
The Prince wrote:
<quoted text>
As well as every law you disagree with. Read a book other than proabortion pagan propaganda.
first, you use the word pagan like its an insult......
second you assume only atheists (pagan in your vernacular) are pro-choice......

most pro-choice people I know are not pro-abortion. but I doubt you would understand the difference as most conservatives are incapable of complex thought and reasoning. They are limited to binary logic...black & white....either/or logic.

actually it is thepro choice crowd whose actions have proven to do the most to reduce the number of abortions. They are the ones who are for
sex education for teenagers
making birth control available to teenagers

all provenmethods for reducing unwanted pregnancies

whereas the fundie anti-choice crowd prefers to stick their heads in the sand and stick with abstinence only...and we all know how well that works, just ask Bristol Palin

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#291938 Apr 6, 2013
The Prince wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes lets kill unborn children because they hurt the finacncial bottom line or we just don't want them. The human race is doomed to the dark ages of paganism with you folks.
funny the only period of history known as the Dark Ages, the Catholic church contolled Europe........

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#291939 Apr 6, 2013
If you want to make up insults, you have to spell them correctly; otherwise, you just come off as the moron you are, but even worse.
The Prince wrote:
<quoted text>
It is sad that you find abortion a funny topic but not surprizing. At least you and the other but miners won't be causing any pregnancies amongst the female pagans. You and the other butcateers are too busy mining for those chunks of but coal. I bet you felows dig those up all the time.
Gtown71

United States

#291940 Apr 7, 2013
grumpy wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps you should read what happened when God sent his only son.
I have. What part do you believe? The part where He died, or the part where He rose again to life, so that we may have eternal life? Or neither one?
Gtown71

United States

#291941 Apr 7, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Were you at calvary in 33AD? Or do you trust what others say, or pics/videos they show?
<quoted text>
I trust what I've read, and seen, AFTER my encounter with God. This IS the mystery. I truly believe a person CANNOT get saved, unless the Spirit of The Lord is drawing, "dealing " with them. Even though we say seek God -NO ONE seeks God. Untill they "know " God. A lost person "who IS spiritualy blind " seeks after God, like a theif seeks after a cop. Yet if someone is broken in spirit, with a humble and contrite heart, God WILL not turn them away, but He resist the proud. The wind blows where it wills, no one knows where it is going, or where it has been, BUT they only know it "touched " them as it came by, so is every one who has been born of God. No matter what one has done, or how "bad " they've been, it is NEVER to late, untill they draw their last breath. I may be as dumb as they come, and have NOTHING to brag about, but the night a Holy God woke up this sinfilled man, I'm thankful He gave me enough grace and sense to say yes to His "free " gift of eternal life.
Gtown71

United States

#291942 Apr 7, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
"Again -I invite you to stop listening to what I say, what the RCC says, what any church says, and just go somewhere, where you are all alone, and take some time to see for yourself."
Excuse me but don't imply that I didn't spend a lot of time (years in fact) thinking about this and I came to my own conclusions. I do "get it". I believe just as strongly that there is no God as you believe there is a God, and all your arrogance and preaching won't change that fact. If you want to think I'm wrong that's fine because I think YOU are wrong.
What we "think " can go soo many ways. If you ask 10 people what they "think " about something, you may come away with 10 different answers. May I ask you how many times in your life you "thought " you were certain about something, only to be "rethinking " it?

After I was saved, I had a deep desire to read a bible, and go to church for the first time in my life. A man had been going to the church I started going to, and he had been very faithful for well over 20 years. If you had asked him, if he was a christian -he would have for certain said yes! Every Sunday we have, what we call meet and greet -where folks goes around shaking hands while amazing grace plays. He would never leave his spot, but would always smile and shake anyones hand that offered. One wed night, we had a geust preacher, who preached, and then walked around looking at each and every person there -he asked all "if you die tonight, would you go to Heaven? " when he got to this man -the man was speachless. HE HAD NO ANSWER. God convicted him, and he was saved that night! After all those years of "thinking " he was a christian. The very next Sunday, during meet and greet, this man was all over the church shaking hands, and had joy unspeakable. He reminded me of Nickademous, who was a religous ruler, yet knew NOT God.

There is absolutely no comparision, in being religious, and "KNOWING " not "thinking " God.
Ocean56

AOL

#291943 Apr 7, 2013
For the "christian" extremists who think that girls and women were well treated in past American history, I think it's time for a little reminder of some facts you probably don't want to see mentioned on a public forum. Too bad. The fact is, we had an American version of Sharia Law in the 19th century. At the beginning of the 19th century in America --

-- Girls got much less education than boys did.

-- Girls' activities, especially for middle- and upper-class girls, were limited to "ladylike" pursuits.

-- Girls and women were considered naturally weaker and inferior to boys and men.

-- It was thought shocking, outrageous, and even scandalous for a woman to give a speech in public, especially to audiences of both men and women.

-- Middle- and upper-class women were expected to confine their activities to a "separate sphere" or their homes. Women were also expected to show the "virtues" of religious piety, wifely submission, and motherly domesticity. And they always had to be escorted outside their homes by a man.

-- Married women had NO legal rights, including to own property, keep their inherited money, enter into contracts, sign legal documents, or control what happened to their wages or their children.

-- Women who were single or had to earn money had very few job opportunities and were always paid less than men who did the same job.

-- Middle- and upper-class women were expected to wear layers of restrictive and heavy clothing, and corsets that were so tight that many women suffered health problems as a result.

-- Almost a million African women were chattel slaves.

-- Women were not allowed to vote.

-- Married women had no choices over their reproductive process. Any woman who got married was expected to produce children, whether she WANTED to be a mother or not.

In addition to the above, as if that weren't oppressive enough, conservative men of the 19th and early 20th century opposed every measure that improved women's lives, especially a woman's right to vote.

THAT'S what the 19th century feminists fought so hard to change, and eventually succeeded in doing so, even though it took 72 years, from 1848 to 1920, to achieve that goal. The shame was that it took that long for women to GET that right to vote in the first place.
Ocean56

AOL

#291944 Apr 7, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
Funny the only period of history known as the Dark Ages, the Catholic church contolled Europe........
Yep. The RCC also tortured and murdered innocent people for so-called "heresy." Heresy was basically anything that questioned or disagreed with the Church's doctrines.

Of course, to religious fanatics like Tommydumdum (aka "ThePrince"), any kind of progress is probably like the "dark ages"...for militant religionists who can't stand the fact that people DON'T have to be ruled by archaic ideas and practices.
Ocean56

AOL

#291945 Apr 7, 2013
If girls and women think school or work is hard now, they should know that becoming a mother will be ten times harder. Many mothers and grandmothers donít tell young girls and women in their family exactly how hard motherhood truly is, for reasons known only to them. I strongly disagree with the practice of keeping girls in ignorance of this. I believe they NEED to know what being a mother will require of them, so they can make an informed decision about being a mother, even if it means some girls will decide not to be mothers at any point in their lives. That is just fine if some don't want to be mothers. Not all girls or women are suited to be moms, and choosing NOT to be a mother is just as valid as the choice to be one.

The three biggest hardships of motherhood are as follows:

HARDSHIP #1: LOSS OF FREEDOM - Having a baby really does change everything, including the freedom that girls and women used to have in abundance. Once the baby arrives, that freedom will be gone, for at least the next five or six years and possibly longer. Teen girls and young women who become moms can forget about going out with friends, whether to the movies, to hang out at their favorite restaurant or coffee shop, or anywhere else for that matter. If they do go out, theyíll have to take the baby with them if their parents refuse to babysit. If the baby is sick or very cranky for any number of reasons, girls will end up staying home instead of going out. Girls who are still in middle or high school will find it much harder to do their homework assignments or study for exams when they have to care for a baby as well. It will be a very long time before girls get any of their former freedom back.

HARDSHIP #2: LOSS OF SLEEP - The first thing girls and women have to know about motherhood is that newborn babies do NOT sleep eight hours a night. All mothers, myself included, can honestly say that babies can Ė and do Ė wake up during the night as many as two or three times. Each time the baby wakes up, mom has to get up with the baby, feed the baby, change the babyís diaper (which could be a messy one), and then get the baby back to sleep. When my son was a newborn baby, there were nights where I got NO sleep whatsoever. Luckily for me, I had completed high school and post-high school education long before that, so I didnít have to get up at 5:00am to go to school after having almost no sleep. Those who are teen moms will not be so lucky.

HARDSHIP #3: LOSS OF MONEY - Whatever money a girl/woman used to spend on herself will have to be spent on the baby, and that cost is far more than most girls could begin to anticipate. These costs include diapers, food, clothing, baby equipment (car seat, crib, stroller, baby carriers, baby and child toys, etc.) and so much more. Anyone who wants to do the math can begin their research by going to their local grocery store and checking out the baby food and diaper sections. Just make sure you have a notebook and calculator, because you will need to multiply those costs for each item several times per week. Thatís just for food and diapers, you havenít even started on the costs for clothing, baby equipment and toys. That will add a staggering amount to your calculations, and the sum will be far higher than you could imagine. If you plan to put the baby in day care for any amount of time during the week, you will have to add up those costs too. Get the picture now? Having a baby costs a HUGE amount of money, which many girls and young women simply do not have, unless they have wealthy parents.
Gtown71

United States

#291946 Apr 7, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
If girls and women think school or work is hard now, they should know that becoming a mother will be ten times harder. Many mothers and grandmothers donít tell young girls and women in their family exactly how hard motherhood truly is, for reasons known only to them. I strongly disagree with the practice of keeping girls in ignorance of this. I believe they NEED to know what being a mother will require of them, so they can make an informed decision about being a mother, even if it means some girls will decide not to be mothers at any point in their lives. That is just fine if some don't want to be mothers. Not all girls or women are suited to be moms, and choosing NOT to be a mother is just as valid as the choice to be one.
The three biggest hardships of motherhood are as follows:
HARDSHIP #1: LOSS OF FREEDOM - Having a baby really does change everything, including the freedom that girls and women used to have in abundance. Once the baby arrives, that freedom will be gone, for at least the next five or six years and possibly longer. Teen girls and young women who become moms can forget about going out with friends, whether to the movies, to hang out at their favorite restaurant or coffee shop, or anywhere else for that matter. If they do go out, theyíll have to take the baby with them if their parents refuse to babysit. If the baby is sick or very cranky for any number of reasons, girls will end up staying home instead of going out. Girls who are still in middle or high school will find it much harder to do their homework assignments or study for exams when they have to care for a baby as well. It will be a very long time before girls get any of their former freedom back.
HARDSHIP #2: LOSS OF SLEEP - The first thing girls and women have to know about motherhood is that newborn babies do NOT sleep eight hours a night. All mothers, myself included, can honestly say that babies can Ė and do Ė wake up during the night as many as two or three times. Each time the baby wakes up, mom has to get up with the baby, feed the baby, change the babyís diaper (which could be a messy one), and then get the baby back to sleep. When my son was a newborn baby, there were nights where I got NO sleep whatsoever. Luckily for me, I had completed high school and post-high school education long before that, so I didnít have to get up at 5:00am to go to school after having almost no sleep. Those who are teen moms will not be so lucky.
HARDSHIP #3: LOSS OF MONEY - Whatever money a girl/woman used to spend on herself will have to be spent on the baby, and that cost is far more than most girls could begin to anticipate. These costs include diapers, food, clothing, baby equipment (car seat, crib, stroller, baby carriers, baby and child toys, etc.) and so much more. Anyone who wants to do the math can begin their research by going to their local grocery store and checking out the baby food and diaper sections. Just make sure you have a notebook and calculator, because you will need to multiply those costs for each item several times per week. Thatís just for food and diapers, you havenít even started on the costs for clothing, baby equipment and toys. That will add a staggering amount to your calculations, and the sum will be far higher than you could imagine. If you plan to put the baby in day care for any amount of time during the week, you will have to add up those costs too. Get the picture now? Having a baby costs a HUGE amount of money, which many girls and young women simply do not have, unless they have wealthy parents.
If young girls were taught how to love themselves, and had a good support system at home, and really thought about the LOSS OF THEIR VIRGINITY, then they would have NO NEED of any other losses, that you so gracously give them.
Gtown71

United States

#291947 Apr 7, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
For the "christian" extremists who think that girls and women were well treated in past American history, I think it's time for a little reminder of some facts you probably don't want to see mentioned on a public forum. Too bad. The fact is, we had an American version of Sharia Law in the 19th century. At the beginning of the 19th century in America --
-- Girls got much less education than boys did.
-- Girls' activities, especially for middle- and upper-class girls, were limited to "ladylike" pursuits.
-- Girls and women were considered naturally weaker and inferior to boys and men.
-- It was thought shocking, outrageous, and even scandalous for a woman to give a speech in public, especially to audiences of both men and women.
-- Middle- and upper-class women were expected to confine their activities to a "separate sphere" or their homes. Women were also expected to show the "virtues" of religious piety, wifely submission, and motherly domesticity. And they always had to be escorted outside their homes by a man.
-- Married women had NO legal rights, including to own property, keep their inherited money, enter into contracts, sign legal documents, or control what happened to their wages or their children.
-- Women who were single or had to earn money had very few job opportunities and were always paid less than men who did the same job.
-- Middle- and upper-class women were expected to wear layers of restrictive and heavy clothing, and corsets that were so tight that many women suffered health problems as a result.
-- Almost a million African women were chattel slaves.
-- Women were not allowed to vote.
-- Married women had no choices over their reproductive process. Any woman who got married was expected to produce children, whether she WANTED to be a mother or not.
In addition to the above, as if that weren't oppressive enough, conservative men of the 19th and early 20th century opposed every measure that improved women's lives, especially a woman's right to vote.
THAT'S what the 19th century feminists fought so hard to change, and eventually succeeded in doing so, even though it took 72 years, from 1848 to 1920, to achieve that goal. The shame was that it took that long for women to GET that right to vote in the first place.
You could have a great message, BUT it should be directed toward those who are not with child.
Plus many white women enjoyed the benefits,of owning black women. Not sure if you've noticed, but life isn't fair, and NEVER will be.

What's your thoughts on indian women, as our forfathers came over here?

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#291948 Apr 7, 2013
Bitbybit wrote:
<quoted text>You keep on rambling on because you can't accept you are wrong. You ARE wrong on everything, better step back and re-examine your life.
LOL, no, it's you who should take a look at your life, and how you treat people. Because I have only ever treated you the way you deserved. You are the one whining about how you've been treated, like a spoiled little girl.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#291949 Apr 7, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
You could have a great message, BUT it should be directed toward those who are not with child.
Plus many white women enjoyed the benefits,of owning black women. Not sure if you've noticed, but life isn't fair, and NEVER will be.
What's your thoughts on indian women, as our forfathers came over here?
The women didn't own slaves, Imbecile. The men did. The women were also considered property.

Ocean isn't directing this at anyone in particular. What are you babbling about?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#291950 Apr 7, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
What we "think " can go soo many ways. If you ask 10 people what they "think " about something, you may come away with 10 different answers. May I ask you how many times in your life you "thought " you were certain about something, only to be "rethinking " it?
After I was saved, I had a deep desire to read a bible, and go to church for the first time in my life. A man had been going to the church I started going to, and he had been very faithful for well over 20 years. If you had asked him, if he was a christian -he would have for certain said yes! Every Sunday we have, what we call meet and greet -where folks goes around shaking hands while amazing grace plays. He would never leave his spot, but would always smile and shake anyones hand that offered. One wed night, we had a geust preacher, who preached, and then walked around looking at each and every person there -he asked all "if you die tonight, would you go to Heaven? " when he got to this man -the man was speachless. HE HAD NO ANSWER. God convicted him, and he was saved that night! After all those years of "thinking " he was a christian. The very next Sunday, during meet and greet, this man was all over the church shaking hands, and had joy unspeakable. He reminded me of Nickademous, who was a religous ruler, yet knew NOT God.
There is absolutely no comparision, in being religious, and "KNOWING " not "thinking " God.
ROFLMAO! You're so full of shit.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#291951 Apr 7, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
If young girls were taught how to love themselves, and had a good support system at home, and really thought about the LOSS OF THEIR VIRGINITY, then they would have NO NEED of any other losses, that you so gracously give them.
I dont know if you're more stupid than naive.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#291952 Apr 7, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
You could have a great message, BUT it should be directed toward those who are not with child.
It IS being directed to them you moron.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#291953 Apr 7, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
The women didn't own slaves, Imbecile. The men did. The women were also considered property.
Ocean isn't directing this at anyone in particular. What are you babbling about?
The fool isn't even reading the posts Bit. He's just mouthing off for the sake of mouthing off.
Forum

Hobbs, NM

#291954 Apr 7, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Were you at calvary in 33AD? Or do you trust what others say, or pics/videos they show?
<quoted text>
Pater Noster, qui es in caelis, sanctiticetur nomen
tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum. Fiat voluntas tua, sicut
in caelo et in terra. Panem nostrum quotidianum
da nobis hodie, et dimitte nobis debita nostra sicut
et nos demittimus debitoribus nostris
et ne nos inducas in tentationem,
sed libera nos a malo. Amen.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#291955 Apr 7, 2013
The Prince wrote:
<quoted text>
Not the pagans! Unless they know you are part of their proaborrtion pagan cult, you are evil. Actually they will accept you, unless you are a Christian. They hate Christians, especially Catholics. These are the pagans that would love to see Christians thrown to the lions again. They pretend to like the fake Christians that come on here.
BWAHAHAHAAHA!!

Pot meet kettle!

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