Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Hey,bitohoneybooboo AKA Bitler Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, on April 6th of this year, the President of the United States traveled halfway around the globe, and in the nation of Turkey, essentially proclaimed that the United States was not a Judeo-Christian nation.

I don’t challenge his right to do that or dispute the fact that it is what he believes, but I wish he had asked and answered two questions when he did that. The first question was whether or not we ever considered ourselves a Judeo-Christian nation, and the second one was, if we did, what was the moment in time where we ceased to be so? If asked the first question, Mr. Speaker, you would find that the very first act of the first congress in the United States was to bring in a minister and have congress led in prayer, and afterwards read four chapters out of the bible. A few years later, when we unanimously declared our independence, we made certain that the rights in there were given to us by our creator. When the Treaty of Paris was signed in 1783, it ended the revolutionary war and birthed this nation. The signers of that document made clear that it began with this phrase,“in the name of the most holy and undivided trinity.”

When our constitution was signed, the signers made sure that they punctuated the end of it by saying,“in the year of our lord, 1787”, and 100 years later in the supreme court case of Holy Trinity Church vs. United States, the Supreme Court indicated, after recounting the long history of faith in this country, that we were a Christian nation. President George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Herbert Hoover, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, John Kennedy, and Ronald Reagan, all disagreed with the President’s comments, and indicated how the bible and Judeo-Christian principles were so important to this nation. Franklin Roosevelt even led this nation in a six-minute prayer before the invasion of perhaps the greatest battle in history, in the Invasion of Normandy, and asked for God’s protection. After that war, congress came together and said,“Where are we going to put our trust?” It wasn’t in our weapons systems, or our economy, or our great decisions here. It was in God we trust, which is emboldened directly behind you. So, if in fact we were a nation that was birthed on those Judeo-Christian principles, what was that moment in time when we ceased to so be?

It wasn’t when a small group of people succeeded in taking prayer out of our schools, or when they tried to cover up the word referencing God on the Washington Monument. Or, when they tried to stop our veterans from having flag-folding ceremonies at their funerals on a voluntary basis because they mentioned God, or even when they tried in the new visitor’s center to change the national motto, and to refuse to put “in God we trust” in there. No, Mr. Speaker, it wasn’t any of those times because they can rip that word off of all of our buildings and still those Judeo-Christian principles are so interwoven in a tapestry of freedom and liberty, that to begin to unravel one is to unravel the other.

That’s why we have filed the Spiritual Heritage Resolution, to help reaffirm that great history of faith that we have in this nation and to say to those individual’s who have yielded to the temptation of concluding that we are no longer a Judeo-Christian nation, to come back. To come back and look at those great principles that birthed this nation, and sustain us today. We believe if they do, they will conclude as President Eisenhower did and later Gerald Ford repeated, that “without God, there could be no American form of government. Nor, an American way of life.” Recognition of the Supreme Being is the first, the most basic expression of Americanism. Thus the founding fathers of America sought and thus with God’s help, it will continue to be.
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grumpy wrote:
I watch televangilists and they debunk going to church. Can anti-choicers explain that?
The televangelists are wrong.
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Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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I do for my kids and my husband, I get up and go to work where I often go the extra mile to help coworkers, I adopt dogs that I then take care of for years, I donate/volunteer my time, etc. I deal with responsibilities everyday. Like many other women/mothers I put other people's needs ahead of my own each and every day.
Can you actually prove there is a god, soul or eternal damnation? Then why should I take your rants and your mythologies seriously?
What "pagan ways" do I "promote"?
You sound like a nice person and if what you want for yourself is to be remembered well after your death by friends and family, you probably will be.

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I totally understand how you feel, but it seems like you're deluding yourself.
You expect it because you want more than your memories? You think death conforms to your expectations? Why not just accept that you don't know what's going to happen and that you will likely never know?
"You think death conforms to your expectations?"

That is a good question.

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You sound like a nice person and if what you want for yourself is to be remembered well after your death by friends and family, you probably will be.
Thank you. It's more like I want my life to have had some positive impact on my survivor's lives.

I had an epiphany one day some years ago. I was shocked when I was reading the paper and saw the obituary of a friend I had kind of lost touch with. She died young of cancer. I felt compelled to make the trip to visit her wake and pay my respects. Instead of a casket with her body the family had set up easels full of photos of her with her friends and family. She was laughing and happy in every photo. Instead of funeral home music they were playing the songs she had loved. People were laughing and telling stories about her...but the most stunning thing was the line of people wanting to pass by and see the family went all the way out of the funeral home and out into the parking lot. This woman obviously impacted many many people in a very positive way.

That's the kind of person I decided I wanted to be.
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"If you're talking about foo, the IDK, but I do hope she is ok, despite having the ability to really be a jerk, how I truly feel about her and others may just surprize you!'
It can go either way, but if you say so then it's true.
Do I agree that you were calling yourself a jerk or that you are a jerk?
Perhaps I should've worded it better.
Yes -I can be a jerk!
But I do care about foo, and you, and all other people.
Despite how arrogant I may come across, I'm nothing or nobody, only a sinner saved by grace.
Eph. 2 : 8-9
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feces for jesus wrote:
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I totally understand how you feel, but it seems like you're deluding yourself.
You expect it because you want more than your memories? You think death conforms to your expectations? Why not just accept that you don't know what's going to happen and that you will likely never know?
most christards are full of you. yum-eeeeeee!!!
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<quoted text>So basically what you're saying is, is that you could still break the adultery commandment with or without being a true christian.
Yes!
A christian is a person who have had the ownership of their soul transfered from satan to God.
They are the children of God, through a spuritual adoption.
Yet they still have their sinful flesh.
A christian can commit any sin that a non christian can, but the difference is they are dealt with by their new Father, God.

He punishes His children here on earth, and although He is merciful and longsuffering, He is just and loves His children.

The sinfilled flesh all people wear will be with them till death.
It is not subject to Gods law and can't be.

It will eat itself to death, drink itself to death, sex itself to death, etc......

The more you give it, the more it wants.

Just looking upon another with lust, is commiting adultery.
Many christians put things in front of God, even some put their ministry before God.

Yet when we die, it is our soul that is either saved or not.
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<quoted text>Well there is no symbolism in writing the commandments on stone because stone breaks and people break commandments. Moses broke the first stone because of the sins being committed while he was on the mountain. So why would God choose stone again if He knew the commandments would be broken. Why would He bother at all writing them again knowing that people were sinning while He was writing them the first time? Makes it rather arbitrary doesn't it?
I don't think so.
I think He could've said "what's the use, they won't listen ",and wipe the earth clean.
Kinda like in the days of Noah, but He is merciful.

If you created people and only ask they do right in a do wrong world, yet they continued to do bad things and curse your name -what would you do?
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Atheists don't have gods.
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There is no such thing as an atheist.

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The constitution allows for freedom of religion--for everyone, not just jews and christians. The government itself is secular and cannot establish an official faith. Thus, we are not a judeo-christian nation. Not to mention that jews were treated pretty shabbily fo much of our historry by christians.
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Hey,bitohoneybooboo AKA Bitler Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, on April 6th of this year, the President of the United States traveled halfway around the globe, and in the nation of Turkey, essentially proclaimed that the United States was not a Judeo-Christian nation.
I don’t challenge his right to do that or dispute the fact that it is what he believes, but I wish he had asked and answered two questions when he did that. The first question was whether or not we ever considered ourselves a Judeo-Christian nation, and the second one was, if we did, what was the moment in time where we ceased to be so? If asked the first question, Mr. Speaker, you would find that the very first act of the first congress in the United States was to bring in a minister and have congress led in prayer, and afterwards read four chapters out of the bible. A few years later, when we unanimously declared our independence, we made certain that the rights in there were given to us by our creator. When the Treaty of Paris was signed in 1783, it ended the revolutionary war and birthed this nation. The signers of that document made clear that it began with this phrase,“in the name of the most holy and undivided trinity.”
When our constitution was signed, the signers made sure that they punctuated the end of it by saying,“in the year of our lord, 1787”, and 100 years later in the supreme court case of Holy Trinity Church vs. United States, the Supreme Court indicated, after recounting the long history of faith in this country, that we were a Christian nation. President George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Herbert Hoover, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, John Kennedy, and Ronald Reagan, all disagreed with the President’s comments, and indicated how the bible and Judeo-Christian principles were so important to this nation. Franklin Roosevelt even led this nation in a six-minute prayer before the invasion of perhaps the greatest battle in history, in the Invasion of Normandy, and asked for God’s protection. After that war, congress came together and said,“Where are we going to put our trust?” It wasn’t in our weapons systems, or our economy, or our great decisions here. It was in God we trust, which is emboldened directly behind you. So, if in fact we were a nation that was birthed on those Judeo-Christian principles, what was that moment in time when we ceased to so be?
It wasn’t when a small group of people succeeded in taking prayer out of our schools, or when they tried to cover up the word referencing God on the Washington Monument. Or, when they tried to stop our veterans from having flag-folding ceremonies at their funerals on a voluntary basis because they mentioned God, or even when they tried in the new visitor’s center to change the national motto, and to refuse to put “in God we trust” in there. No, Mr. Speaker, it wasn’t any of those times because they can rip that word off of all of our buildings and still those Judeo-Christian principles are so interwoven in a tapestry of freedom and liberty, that to begin to unravel one is to unravel the other.
That’s why we have filed the Spiritual Heritage Resolution, to help reaffirm that great history of faith that we have in this nation and to say to those individual’s who have yielded to the temptation of concluding that we are no longer a Judeo-Christian nation, to come back....
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Perhaps I should've worded it better.
Yes -I can be a jerk!
But I do care about foo, and you, and all other people.
Despite how arrogant I may come across, I'm nothing or nobody, only a sinner saved by grace.
Eph. 2 : 8-9
If the way you live is making you happy then that's good, but we all should be able to find out own path, whether it leads to Jesus or not.
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Here's the deal, if you can asow me in your translation where it says, under the cover of some other word that the woman is pregnant, then I will agree with you. It must be there for your translation to make sense.
It's a given if she miscarried, she was pregnant. The translation for "rot" includes abortion.
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>You never answered how it is possible for a non pregnant woman to abort.
Never made that claim.

You never answered how sterility could prove infidelity.

You'd rather keep going round and round, applying the faith-based view when it suits you and the secular view when it suits you.

AyakaNeo rightly pointed out that the bitter water would only affect the guilty woman, even if the innocent woman were also pregnant. That is the faith based view -- that God would reveal the truth.

The secular view is the bitter water would affect both guilty and innocent women the same, if both were pregnant. That is the view you are arguing.

I've argued (in the past) the husband better have been damn sure his wife cheated, else he may be forcing her to miscarry a potential hier. That goes with the secular view.

I've already said the only sure test that could prove a woman cheated is if the priest took a swab from her vagina and found another man's DNA. Again, secular view.

I think we've exhausted all "what ifs", yet you still pretend the translation does not exist, even though I've shown it to you several times.

I'm bored with it.

I suppose there's really no use in getting into the 7 cays creation question. You'd dismiss the translations without explanation, as you've done here, and I'd be just wasting my time.
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That's interesting. He got it backwards.
God wrote the 10 Commandments on both sets. Gtown simply didn't bother to read it. He repeats what he's been told without bothering to check it out. Not to be trusted.
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You're good at regurgitating nonsense, but that's about it you poor shmuck.
Yeah, he's good at misleading people.

God help anyone who listens to him quote the Book of Job. I can imagine the mess that would be.
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Yes, agree, STO. Your last point is very interesting. I'd bet the possibilities are endless regarding full term pregnancies that never would have been had an earlier pregnancy not ended prior to term (either induced or spontaneous). All those people are still God's people, right? In the same sense that they were known in the womb, too. Right?
(the things that make you go hmmmm)
"All those people are still God's people, right? In the same sense that they were known in the womb, too. Right?"

Absolutely.

Some Christians believe the Good Lord chose to spare them from the harshness of the world. That is not doctrinal, mind you.
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The only one lying here sto, is you and you know it. I could care less how many "translations" you come up with, they are wrong, if the think numbers chapter 5 talks about abortion.
You are stretching far to try and make it stick. I doesn't and never will!
Of course you could care less. "No it's not" is the lie you tell yourself when facts smack you upside your crybaby head. lol
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Katie wrote:
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You should be ashamed of yourself! This is what you're calling a "liar". You, damn near illiterate, have no clue of what you speak and still you speak it. With pride and belligerence no less.
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Gtown is the worst kind of "christian". He's proud not to be a student of the Word. He thinks he knows all there is to know. He's lazy, believes he's too good to learn. He's actually dangerous to new Christians, giving them false information.
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Yes, and they all agree with sto on this, oh and you, that numbers 5 talks of abortion. NOT!
Hey I can admit when I'm wrong, likw moses carving the 10 c's, He had to hew out the tablets "which was a pretty big job, but God wrote em. You think you or sto, will admit you're wrong about numbers 5 condoning abortion? Prob never,but I should be ashamed.
I've talked to others about this -they to have NO IDEA WHERE Y'ALL GET THIS?!?!?
Well, tell'em, ya jackass. I gave you the link a bunch of times.
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<quoted text>I spoke to a humble preacher who reads the kjv from start to finish every 30 days!
He don't brag, and says it is his conviction alone to not want 30 days to go by, without reading the entire word of God. He's done it since 1994.
Course it never occurred to you to crack open the Book, yourself.
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Gtown71 wrote:
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Perhaps I should've worded it better.
Yes -I can be a jerk!
But I do care about foo, and you, and all other people.
Despite how arrogant I may come across, I'm nothing or nobody, only a sinner saved by grace.
Eph. 2 : 8-9
Is anyone buying this "duh-derp I done wrong" crap?

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