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Ocean56 wrote: <quoted text> Because, contrary to what the anti-choice crowd wants everyone to believe, some women DON'T WANT CHILDREN, and they have the right NOT to have any. Motherhood is OPTIONAL, not required, which means a woman can reject it for any reason. Sorry you have such a hard time accepting this fact. But it IS a fact nonetheless. I asked you a question..... "Tell me something.....since my sole goal is to afford legal protection to the human life in utero, and I otherwise support womens rights, support birth control and birth control education, and care very much and donate time and money for the born also ( thereby shattering many of your AC myths )....how can I achieve my goal without being attacked as a misogynistic, regressive denier of women's rights by paranoid lunatics like you ? I'm open to any suggestions."
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Katie wrote: <quoted text> You better watch out, Elise. You'll get pages of posts demanding you provide proof. :p Yeah.....God forbid someone asks you to back up your lies. I'm PC ???
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Katie wrote: <quoted text> "If the physician DOES determine it possesses the basic lung function to survive with ALS then he will deem it viable and ALS will be applied. He will not apply ALS to a non viable fetus so it can REACH viability....as numbskulls like Bitter and Chicky have claimed." Have asked you before but do not recall your answer. What happens when the newborn dies anyway? Was it nonviable? That's my answer. So even if the physician deems a fetus viable, births it early, applies ALS, but the newborn dies anyway, then for all intents and purposes, it was not viable. What say you to that, Doc, old boy?" Doc : I've said it already. See above, old girl. Nothing to say old girl ??????
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Conservative Democrat wrote: <quoted text> You're tearing me apart? LMFAO!! Like I said; you couldn't rip apart a virgin without fudging your own dick (in my previous post I used a ____(blank) in place of dick, assuming you could make the connection. Given that's not the case, I'm compelled to spell it out for you). What did I say that ever made you think I didn't get the connection.....or didn't get your juvenile, unfunny attempt at a jab ? You're not compelled to spell out anything. It's even more embarrassingly unfunny the second time around. Doc, you're acute case of senility is compounded by a belief that just because you say something, then it's the absolute truth. You couldn't muster one iota of an argument outside of Topix. Which begs the question; are you having a cybernetic, or in the flesh, affair with sassy? Maybe you two meet in your son's basement to "clean" it up. My position has not wavered at all. Viability is reached when the fetus has a 50% ability to make the O2/CO2 exchange in its lungs, which means it has a 50% chance of life outside the womb. When I referred to the hypothetical scenario of a preemie born with 49% ability to make the gas exchange, and the administration of medical assistance to help it reach 50%(which, although not necessary, per se validates Bitner's statement), There is nothing that exists on this earth that would ever validate Bitter's patently ridiculous statement. Now try again and answer because all you've done up to this point is dodge...... Just how does a non viable preemie (which by definition CANNOT survive no matter what medical assistance is applied) survive with medical assistance to the point that it can REACH viability ? I also qualified my statement by stating a fact which you seem all too enthusiastic to ignore: that there isn't a single Pediatrician, or ObGyn out there that can make a viability assessment of 50% to a 100% degree of medical accuracy. Ignore ? Ignore ??? I'm the one that said it to begin with ( Post #278266 ): " There is no way to quantify what is 50% or what is 48%....or what is 52%. One physicians 50% may be another's 45% or another's 55%. What I do agree with is the basic premise that a physician must first conclude that an infant possesses the minimal basic lung function to survive before he applies medical assistance." Ya like that, stupid ? Enthusiastic to ignore my ass.
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(continued) So, assuming there was a way to say, to a 100% degree of medical accuracy that the fetus is EXACTLY 49% able to make the O2/CO2 exchange, thus has a 49% chance of life outside the womb, and it's born at that precise and definitive moment in time, there isn't a single physician out there who WILL NOT err on the side of caution and place the preemie on medical assistance, on the slim chance his/her calculations are wrong, and of course, to avoid a medmal action. If you find one, please introduce him/her to me; will you? "You said that if a preemie is receiving medical assistance that means it's already been deemed viable." You remember I said this like it was yesterday? Good; since you're so hell bent on posting proof, and demanding proof be posted; why don't you find my post that expressly states that? Of course you won't; because it does not exist. Careful what you ask for stupid.... Post #277295: "A preemie on medical assistance IS already viable." You even capitalized "is" stupid. I won't find it because it doesn't exist huh ? Sounds to me the remaining part of your brain that was operating at 50% capacity was blown away by super storm Sandy. Or maybe it rotted in your son's basement. How terrible. Go suck a mean hard one Doc. Then, go consult with the sock puppet in your "law firm" who's been schooling you and then get back to me. I'll respond if I feel like doing so. Or, I may just allow you to feed your own illusion and have the last word here on Topix (as if that's going to mean more than the turd I just flushed). Happy Valentines ya ben elef. Figures a weasel like you would lay the groundwork for not responding. But it's understandable. Who in their right mind would invite even more shredding by responding ?
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Gtown71 wrote: <quoted text> You beat me to it :) What? No stars? I'm glad you were just as incredulous. Stars are billions of years old!
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Forum wrote: <quoted text> The Sunrise was orange. Because of the Earth's atmosphere refracting the angle of the sunlight.
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cpeter1313 wrote: I'm sure any kid you had shot out like a cannonball. <quoted text> Shot out like a cannonball? 9 lbs 15 ounces? 9 lbs 5 ounces? I don't think so. I bet you were a little skinny/puny baby. All wrinkled and gross.
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cpeter1313 wrote: I vote for frangelico with a splash of lemon. Oh, and I guess some nutrients, if you insist. <quoted text> Gay people drink strange things.
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cpeter1313 wrote: Massengil called; they need a fresh supply. <quoted text> What is Massengil? Something that gay guys use? You haven't been around lately. I thought maybe you went on a gay only cruise. Didn't Rosie O'Donnel do a gay only cruise? I think it was on TV. All the gay guys were eyeing each other. Wonder what happened when the camera's stopped filming. Lots of men going from room to room. Poor little kids.
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Itmust've been a really stupid nurse if she thought feeding would be an appropriate response...which is why I don't buy the story. SapphireBlue wrote: <quoted text> You're confusing yourself. I was present to assist during several abortions, one changed my mind about abortion. I guessed the gestation of the botched baby abortion since you asked about the bottle. I'm assuming the nurse didn't know what else to do but try and feed the botched abortion baby when it came out alive. This wasn't a neonate baby. They had tried to kill it but it didn't die. At least not according to plan. Botched abortion babies should be a testament to the insanity of our inhumanity and what we have become.
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I missed the fetus being 4 minths gestation--when the chances are absolutely ZERO of its survival! It would also be incapable of taking nutrition orally. She's gonna have to do better than that. LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote: <quoted text> You weren't present at THAT one, or so you claim. Make up your mind. <quoted text> THen she should have been fired on the spot! LOL! At 4 months, the fetus is 4 inches long and weighs around 4 ounces. Needless to say, you did NOT see a nurse sitting with a blanket around this infant with a bottle in its mouth. You're flat out lying about this. <quoted text> ROFLMAO Okay Miss "nurse". Funny how you dont know that a neonate is ANY baby born up to 4 months OLD. <quoted text> Well, people like you LYING about this certainly is a testament to the insanity and inhumanity of what your kind have become.
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Seven pounds, 5 ounces. Perfectly healthy weight for a human neonate. Wow...now you're judging the beauty of babies? Kinda creepy. Guppy wrote: <quoted text> Shot out like a cannonball? 9 lbs 15 ounces? 9 lbs 5 ounces? I don't think so. I bet you were a little skinny/puny baby. All wrinkled and gross.
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As I recall, rosie did an olivia cruise, which is for lesbians. Gay adult cruises are just that--for adults. No kids allowed. And what the hell do you think happens on hetero adult cruises? Quilting bees? Guppy wrote: <quoted text> What is Massengil? Something that gay guys use? You haven't been around lately. I thought maybe you went on a gay only cruise. Didn't Rosie O'Donnel do a gay only cruise? I think it was on TV. All the gay guys were eyeing each other. Wonder what happened when the camera's stopped filming. Lots of men going from room to room. Poor little kids.
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Long Night Moon 13 wrote: <quoted text> Because of the Earth's atmosphere refracting the angle of the sunlight. It was burning.
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cpeter1313 wrote: Seven pounds, 5 ounces. Perfectly healthy weight for a human neonate. Wow...now you're judging the beauty of babies? Kinda creepy. <quoted text> Yep, puny, wrinkled. creepy baby. I knew it. 7lbs 5 ounces? ha, You never answered my question. Who took care of you when you were a wrinkled, skinny baby? Afraid to?
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cpeter1313 wrote: As I recall, rosie did an olivia cruise, which is for lesbians. Gay adult cruises are just that--for adults. No kids allowed. And what the hell do you think happens on hetero adult cruises? Quilting bees? <quoted text> I remember seeing guys with kids. It was a GAY family cruise. Guys with little kids. Look it up. Regular adult cruises? I don't believe it's all about six, as the gay cruises are. Have you been on one?
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cpeter1313 wrote: Seven pounds, 5 ounces. Perfectly healthy weight for a human neonate. Wow...now you're judging the beauty of babies? Kinda creepy. <quoted text> Hey, what did you think about the weight of those two babies? Impressed? This was funny. After I gave birth to the 9 lb 15 ounce baby, nurses would come into my room to check me out, because they couldn't believe someone my size could have such a big baby! Ain't that something? Must have been all the O'reos.
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After the 9 lb 5 ounces baby. Got my picture in the paper. Wasn't too happy about that.
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