Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

[SapphireBlue]

elise in burque wrote:

<quoted text>Oh, yeah... you didn't answer my question: At what stage of development was this "drowned in saline" fetus that you people "wrapped in a blanket with a bottle in its mouth?" Please answer, thank you.

To be honest, I don't know. I had just come on my shift when it was clear something very unusual was going on.

Nurses were running in and out of this room and there was a sense of chaos - the only way I know how to describe it - in the air.

When I walked into the room to see what all the commotion was about, I saw a nurse sitting in a chair holding the baby in a blanket with a bottle in its mouth.

However, I did learn in doing some research that saline abortions did have more incidences of botched abortions.

Everyone knew the baby would not survive. It was just not knowing what to do before then. Feeding a baby born alive in the fourth month of pregnancy isn't that farfetched - not knowing what else to do.

[SapphireBlue]

elise in burque wrote:

<quoted text>Tsk, you should have retreated before trying to explain your way out of your contradictory story. Drowned in saline, trying to feed it to revive it, industrial vacuums. Stop this. You're making a fool of yourself. Maybe your memory is failing, and you're trying to fill in the holes. Is that it?

I'm telling you what I saw and witnessed.

Don't believe it if you don't want to.

A vacuum that can suck out a fetus seems industrial strength to me.

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elise in burque wrote:

<quoted text>Okay. I believe you, since it was so long ago. Saline? Thank goodness, abortion technique is so much more advanced. Scheduled LTAs are only performed in four venues in the U.S, btw.

This is disgusting. How do you live with your conscience.
+ May you burn every time to touch a baby. Amen.

[elise in burque]

SapphireBlue wrote:

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The nurse was trying to feed it. The doctor was just trying to act like he had some idea of what to do.
Filling a woman's womb with saline solution not only drowned the unborn baby but burned soft tissues and skin. Unborn babies routinely open their mouths and drink the amniotic fluid surrounding them. Ingesting the saline caused seizures and hemorrhaging of the brain and other organs.
Back in the 1970s, a physician would infuse the saline early in the day, the effects would take the rest of the day and the dead fetus expelled vaginally. Only it looked like a baby.

~sigh~ So, you're saying that your team was a bunch of blithering idiots. I hope you people straightened out, somehow. Why did you write that the fetus "drowned in saline?" If you're a nurse you should know that drowning wasn't a favor in your little scenario. Your story is so full of contradictions, we can only assume that you are either fabricating it, or your memory is faulty.

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Nurses and Dpctprs
+May you burn every time you touch a baby. Amen.

[SapphireBlue]

feces for jesus wrote:

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But you don't know, you just think you know. It is the height of arrogance to think you know what happens after we die.
Cling to your delusuons all you want.

But I do know where I'm going. However, it has nothing to do with arrogance and everything to do with faith.

Do you know for sure where you're going?

Look up Dr. Eben Alexander, a neurosurgeon. He was a scientific naysayer about near death experiences until his own.

Very fascinating story.

[elise in burque]

SapphireBlue wrote:

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Unborn babies ingest amniotic fluid which sustains them. Salt water is toxic and very much like drowning.

Omg! Lol

[SapphireBlue]

elise in burque wrote:

<quoted text>Oh, the irony is deafening... Lol. I don't mind you saying anything, mama. Thanks for the entertainment! Your story is not believable for the reasons we gave.

No reasons were given that couldn't be verified in a saline abortion.

[Anonymous]

elise in burque wrote:

<quoted text>There we go. That's better:-)

:) I hope you to have a happy valentines day, and perhaps enjoy sum dove truffles?

[Anonymous]

LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:

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Thank YOU.
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I got them for my wife. So I'll snitch a few when she opens them later. <<grin>>

I bought my wife some as well, but only got 1 Lol

[SapphireBlue]

elise in burque wrote:

<quoted text>Omg! Lol

From a medical website:

The amniotic fluid constantly moves (circulates) as the baby swallows and "inhales" the fluid, and then releases it.

The amniotic fluid helps:
•The developing baby to move in the womb, which allows for proper bone growth
•The lungs to develop properly
•Keep a relatively constant temperature around the baby, protecting from heat loss
•Protect the baby from outside injury by cushioning sudden blows or movements

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/artic...

The question is why are you so adament about scoffing at this?

[heyhey]

this is crazy

[Niether of the Above]

Katie wrote:

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Catholic countries allow women to die all the time. Their fetuses, too.

Can you post some links or some level of proof. And what is a Catholic Country? To my knowledge, albit limited, the Pope of Rome only physically governs the Vatican in Rome.

[Anonymous]

Ocean56 wrote:

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What YOU believe is irrelevant to me and probably any other woman who doesn't want to get or stay pregnant. Not YOUR pregnancy? Not your decision. Deal with it.

I'm trying to, but it's not easy :(

[SapphireBlue]

http://cobbpregnancy.org/abortion2.htm

Saline

Procedure

Usually performed at 16+ weeks when there is enough amniotic fluid, in the sac around the fetus. A long needle is inserted through the mother's abdomen (usually through her navel) directly into the amniotic sac. Some of the amniotic fluid is drawn out and replaced with a strong salt solution.

The saline is absorbed through the lungs and digestive tract of the fetus, and the outer layer of skin is burned off by the high concentration of salt.

...Saline being absorbed through the lungs can be interpreted as drowning. Can it not?

[feces for jesus]

SapphireBlue wrote:

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But I do know where I'm going. However, it has nothing to do with arrogance and everything to do with faith.
Do you know for sure where you're going?
Look up Dr. Eben Alexander, a neurosurgeon. He was a scientific naysayer about near death experiences until his own.
Very fascinating story.

Pfffft, ok there.

Of course I don't know "where I'm going" after I die. I wouldn't dare make such a ridiculous and arrogant claim.

According to mr. Alexander his personal experience is proof (LOL). He also said "death is an illusion" and " That perfect splendor awaits beyond the grave complete with angels, dead relatives, clouds and butterflies and BEAUTIFUL GIRLS IN PEASANT DRESSES"

I can't believe you're a sucker for such rubbish.

[worships reality]

SapphireBlue wrote:

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From a medical website:
The amniotic fluid constantly moves (circulates) as the baby swallows and "inhales" the fluid, and then releases it.
The amniotic fluid helps:
•The developing baby to move in the womb, which allows for proper bone growth
•The lungs to develop properly
•Keep a relatively constant temperature around the baby, protecting from heat loss
•Protect the baby from outside injury by cushioning sudden blows or movements
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/artic...
The question is why are you so adament about scoffing at this?

she's a nut job. pay her no mind. claims to be a nurse. it's a running gag on here.

[Niether of the Above]

feces for jesus wrote:

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Typical..... you just brush off the points I brought up and the reference to god creating 2 lights in genesis. I guess you can't be bothered to have a rational debate.

You are right, we don't know, what we don't know, so to have a rational debate on the existence of a higher being is impossible. At some point, you reach the "I Believe because of my Faith in God" versus, "You cannot prove he exists, therefore he doesn't" I will tell you, and I admit I believe in God, that without the belief there is something beyond this life, this entire journey would be a bit hopeless and extremely depressing! IMHO.

[SapphireBlue]

feces for jesus wrote:

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Pfffft, ok there.
Of course I don't know "where I'm going" after I die. I wouldn't dare make such a ridiculous and arrogant claim.
According to mr. Alexander his personal experience is proof (LOL). He also said "death is an illusion" and " That perfect splendor awaits beyond the grave complete with angels, dead relatives, clouds and butterflies and BEAUTIFUL GIRLS IN PEASANT DRESSES"
I can't believe you're a sucker for such rubbish.

The Harvard neurosurgeon has been on television recounting his experience as well as other videos and transcripts and I don't recall this version.

He said:

"Toward the beginning of my adventure, I was in a place of clouds. Big, puffy, pink-white ones that showed up sharply against the deep blue-black sky. Higher than the clouds—immeasurably higher—flocks of transparent, shimmering beings arced across the sky, leaving long, streamerlike lines behind them.

"Birds? Angels? These words registered later, when I was writing down my recollections. But neither of these words do justice to the beings themselves, which were quite simply different from anything I have known on this planet. They were more advanced. Higher forms.

"A sound, huge and booming like a glorious chant, came down from above, and I wondered if the winged beings were producing it. Again, thinking about it later, it occurred to me that the joy of these creatures, as they soared along, was such that they had to make this noise—that if the joy didn’t come out of them this way then they would simply not otherwise be able to contain it. The sound was palpable and almost material, like a rain that you can feel on your skin but doesn’t get you wet."

However, he said he traveled through this heaven surrounded by "millions of butterflies" with a woman who told him messages like “You are loved and cherished dearly" and “You have nothing to fear".

He concluded that God and science are more one and the same than in opposition to each other.

[SapphireBlue]

feces for jesus wrote:

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Typical..... you just brush off the points I brought up and the reference to god creating 2 lights in genesis. I guess you can't be bothered to have a rational debate.

Didn't mean to.