Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 310175 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Guppy

Englewood, FL

#281712 Feb 2, 2013
Have you noticed the men who show up at abortion clinics to picket?

There aren't many, but they look like perverts. Wonder why?

Since: Dec 09

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#281713 Feb 2, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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That may be accurate, and serves as a sad statement to our "progress". If I were a betting man, and believed in mob rule democracy, I would venture to guess that in the 1780's, 63% or more of the folks in the south wanted to keep owning another human legal as well. So using your logic and arguments, that made slavery OK, right?
Oh God the slavery and Hitler argument.......what a new concept.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#281714 Feb 2, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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Your right, there is a big difference. Progressives have not "found" the right to kill your kids yet outside the womb if they are an inconvenience to you. Their working on it though. Like in New York, the Governor wants a women to be able to "remove" her unborn child, for any reason, up to and including the the last month of the third trimester. Wouldn't that just make you jubilant? My guess is you would be more horrified at someone killing a puppy then a baby, but thats just a guess.
Well you would guess wrong. I haven't seen this legislation in bill form so I don't know what it says.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#281715 Feb 2, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>Lily cares way too much about a poster that she doesn't know. If she isn't Lynne D, why does she jump to the woman's defense so vehemently? Lynne D isn't even around anymore, and all she has to do is ignore any reference to Lynne to make the issue go away.. Lily isn't the type of person to take up for a total stranger in such an emotional, visceral manner. She's very transparent.
Here's a link to when Lynne FINALLY came clean:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/newington-ct/...

Those few pages are very interesting reading.

Here's a link to Lynne/Perverse/Lily bitching about my posting pictures of Gerri Santoro:

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T833...

Sound familiar?

Lynne is SO ignorant that she really thinks she dosen't "out" herself with every post she makes. Her views are the same as they've always been. Her WORDS are the same, and that more than anything is what makes the hole she's dug for herself even DEEPER.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#281716 Feb 2, 2013
Guppy wrote:
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You are such a little fairy.
Please dont insult fairy's.
grumpy

Stony Point, NY

#281717 Feb 2, 2013
Doc Degall wrote:
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I've answered you already but what the hell....
While I may be for the protection of innocent human life I'm also a realist and recognize that the law of the land right now recognizes the right to elective abortion....and viability remains at the heart of when that life is currently afforded any level of legal protection, so you're damn right I'm gonna argue what the proper definition is. Besides that, just the tearing down of the credibility of the opposition by demonstrating that they don't even have the ability or the intelligence to grasp the meaning of such a fundamental concept.....is alone worth arguing it.
Get it now grumpster ? Or are ya gonna ask me again?
One more question. Do you buy those condoms to blow up as balloons
at kids' parties?
STO

Vallejo, CA

#281718 Feb 2, 2013
saasssylicious wrote:
<quoted text> That tragic story became even more tragic.
Nobody said that she SHOULD carry her twins to term. They could have delivered those babies very early on "if "her body couldn't handle it.
I don't know if they could have. You don't either. But, for the sake of argument, are you saying the only "moral" treatment, in all cases of life-threat, would be to deliver the non-viable fetus?
Guppy

Englewood, FL

#281719 Feb 2, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text>Please dont insult fairy's.
hahaha. I'll try not to.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#281720 Feb 2, 2013
Ink wrote:
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A patient can certainly ask anything they want. And it would be important to know whether a doctor considers both mom and baby as his patients.
A patient does not have the right to know what a medical worker's private views are. That's the law. Any obstetrician considers both the woman and the fetus as patients. That's what an obstetrician does, silly, regardless of a personal view on abortion. That myopia of yours is not serving you well, dear.
No Relativism

Huntington, IN

#281721 Feb 2, 2013
Guppy wrote:
Have you noticed the men who show up at abortion clinics to picket?
There aren't many, but they look like perverts. Wonder why?
The deathscorts at abortion clinics look like grazing heffers w/ pink/purple hair and nose rings.
No Relativism

Huntington, IN

#281722 Feb 2, 2013
Guppy wrote:
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You are such a little fairy.
Leave cPeter alone.
No Relativism

Huntington, IN

#281723 Feb 2, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
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So what. Since it is the WOMAN who takes on all the health risks and complications of carrying a pregnancy to term, it is only logical that it is the WOMAN who makes the choice whether or not to continue a pregnancy.
Like other conservative anti-choice guys, you're just pissed that you can't force a woman to gestate a pregnancy she may never have wanted to begin with and quite possibly used contraception to PREVENT. Too bad. Motherhood is OPTIONAL, not required, and no woman has to be a mother unless she WANTS to. The 1800's are over, and we women get to make our OWN sexual and reproductive choices. Get used to it.
You do not value motherhood, femininity, babies, womanhood....

......you don't know who you are. All you know is you value convenience as it pertains to yourself.

You're a lonely, empty mess.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#281724 Feb 2, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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Here's a link to when Lynne FINALLY came clean:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/newington-ct/...
Those few pages are very interesting reading.
Here's a link to Lynne/Perverse/Lily bitching about my posting pictures of Gerri Santoro:
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T833...
Sound familiar?
Lynne is SO ignorant that she really thinks she dosen't "out" herself with every post she makes. Her views are the same as they've always been. Her WORDS are the same, and that more than anything is what makes the hole she's dug for herself even DEEPER.
Looks like Lynne/Persevere was already setting up for her return under a new name...

"I'm leaving and won't be coming back.

These phsychos will still accuse newbies of being "Lynne". I assure you, they won't be. I'm not ever coming back into this forum."
No Relativism

Huntington, IN

#281725 Feb 2, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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Hey, I think I'm all that's left.
Your presence is impotent.
No Relativism

Huntington, IN

#281727 Feb 2, 2013
Katie wrote:
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Not all adoptable babies are wanted by couples hoping to adopt. If your above statement were even half true, there would not be thousands of parentless American children waiting for homes filled with loving families.
Don't be calling anyone else a mess until you clean up your own damn porch.
The babies you are suggesting be killed (those waiting to be born) are most certainly wanted by adoptive parents.

You were not speaking of 10-year-old foster children.

Be intellectually honest for a change. Your intentional obfuscation is tiring.
STO

Vallejo, CA

#281731 Feb 2, 2013
Imo, this was an excellent exchange. Having paged forward, it didn't go any where, which is too bad.
Katie wrote:
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"I don't believe in "life saving" killing. Nor does she."
It is referred to as self-defense, JM.
You would, irl, refuse your daughter a life saving abortion as self-defense. That is definitely your right because nobody's removed women's civil rights to personal privacy and bodily autonomy.
If Roe v Wade were to be overturned, out the window those go. Then, perhaps (worst case scenario), the physician would force an abortion on your daughter or on her daughter.
There're more than one side to this debate. But you're so focused on the fetus, you've lost sight of everything else.
I, for one, would hope your daughter, Guppy's daughter, my daughter, you, me, and she were all covered by civil rights of privacy and autonomy so that, individually, we could make the right decisions for our individual circumstances.
Don't you agree? Yes or No?
saasssyliciousk wrote:
<quoted text> Katie, deliberately killing an innocent humans life is never the "right decision" . Not for me, my daughter, you, your daughter, guppy etc.....
Women kill their unwanted born children instead of giving them to the father to raise or some family member. For some sickass reason they think killing them is the best decision.
Where is the line drawn? What makes it acceptable killing seconds prior to birth but not after? Who's justified? Who isn't. All personal opinions really. In the end, an innocent life is deliberately killed. You don't have a moral right to do so.
AC/PL prefers to start their argument at viability (one day before the due date) and work backward, making the moral arguement that terminating a baby is wrong.

PC prefer to start our argument at fertilization and work toward viability, making the legal argument that there is not a baby to terminate and therefore the one person involved (the woman) is also the only person who can make any medical decisions regarding her body.

There are very few PC who do not agree with restrictions.

There are very few AC/PL who do not agree with exceptions.

For many on the AC side, they cannot understand why anyone would not want to afford a fetus that is one day from delivery legal protection from the actions of the woman. No manslaugher charge. No murder charge. Because the fetus has no rights.

I don't know of any PC person who could MORALLY accept terminating a viable fetus, one day before delivery (healthy woman, no medical emergency, etc.).

As for the PC side, we cannot understand how anyone would consider a fertilized egg as being an infant. Under the worst of circumstances (life-threatening pregnancy), the woman should have the legal right to make her own medical decisions, so it follows that under the best of circumstances (early in the pregnancy, no life-threat), it follows that the woman should have the legal right to make her own medical decisions.

As Katie inferred, the lost point in all this is the zef is INSIDE a person. No one is arguing the woman is not a person, a person with civil rights, a person who is supposed to have equal civil rights to any other citizen/person in the US.

There is simply no way to afford a fetus rights without diminishing the pregnant woman's rights.

AC/PL are all too willing to accept this concept and make it law. They do not consider that their would-be law disregards medical opinion on a case by case basis. No matter what, gotta follow the law, and the woman doesn't get a say as to what happens to her body.

PC cannot accept this concept, not only because we will not relinquish personal autonomy, medical privacy, but because we also know a "one size fits all" law is not feasable. It can't fit all.
STO

Vallejo, CA

#281733 Feb 2, 2013
cont'd.

With all that said...

I ask you AC/PL folks: Do you really want to hand over every pregnant woman's medical decisions, diet decisions, career/job decisions to a legislature? Do you really want to have government step in between a woman and her physicians?

And to PC, I'd like to ask: Don't you find the idea of terminating a viable fetus (with no medical reason, emergency) just plain wrong? Be honest. I do.



Guppy

Englewood, FL

#281734 Feb 2, 2013
No Relativism wrote:
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Leave cPeter alone.
OK
Guppy

Englewood, FL

#281735 Feb 2, 2013
No Relativism wrote:
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The deathscorts at abortion clinics look like grazing heffers w/ pink/purple hair and nose rings.
Do you picket?
Gtown71

United States

#281736 Feb 2, 2013
Kenose wrote:
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You are so closed minded, so bound by your beliefs that it cripples your ability to reason. That you believe such things where there is no evidence to support it, is totally off the wall. Try keeping an open mind.
I'm trying to decide which is larger... your arrogance or your imagination.
There is more then enough evidence.

There is even more then that to me. A guy who went from not believing in God at all, into believe whole heartedly in God.

I thought religion is just what folks did.
I thought Heaven and Hell (if it was real) was only a matter of good or bad.

I thought (and many "christians "think if your good works outweigh your bad, then you go to Heaven.
If your bad works are more then good, then Hell.

Many who go to church now believe this method.

After the night I was woken up by God -it was HE that straightened me out.

I had tried cleaning up this or that before, but could never reach a point that I felt good enough.

I know believe, as God says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

If you have ever told a lie, then you are a liar.

Asking forgiveness doesn't erase the lie.

Like killing someone, asking forgiveness will not bring the other person back, nor will it erase the fact that they are a murderer.

Only having Gods grace applied to ones life will erase all.
Jesus died for all sin -past, present, future.
A christian asks for forgiveness to restore fellowship with God.

Sonship is done by the blood of God (Jesus Christ) being applied to ones soul.

Many died having faith for His comming.
I will die having faith in His comming.

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