Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Women used to get married before the age of 18. It is written down somewhere that all of those young brides throughout the world went on to be miserable all their lives? There was no happy endings?
Look at the country music singer/legend Loretta Lynn, she married at 14, had kids, and was married to the same man until he died. I don't think she lived a miserable life.
Oh PLEASE, THAT'S your argument? "If Loretta Lynn can do it and be successful, then all teen girls should do it too?" What a PATHETIC argument this is, and it needs to be REJECTED.

I think that for every successful celebrity who was a teen mom, there are at least ten other girls, probably a lot more than ten, who got pregnant and had children but did NOT get the breaks that Loretta Lynn did. Sorry, pal, your pathetic argument doesn't hold water.

As far as I'M concerned, teen sex is a BAD IDEA, chiefly because it leads to teen pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases. I don't consider teen marriage to be a good idea either.
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The program is designed to discourage girls from having sex by showing them the hardships of motherhood, Moron.
You are an idiot.
We're not talking about abortion here, but abstaining from sex.
Exactly, although I like to use the term "sex-FREE," which simply means free FROM sex while in middle and high school. There are quite a few advantages for teen girls to be sex-free, including:

1. FREEDOM from worries about unwanted pregnancy and STD's.

2. FREEDOM from worry about how to pay for diapers and formula when they are too young to get jobs.

3. FREEDOM to concentrate on their school work, which means completing all homework assignments and studying for important tests.

4. FREEDOM to participate in non-academic activities and attend any dance(s) they wish.

5. FREEDOM to graduate from high school and go on to their next level of education, with NO restrictions.
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I think we are just going to go round and round on this point.
I keep saying that its okay for Ocean to try to get teenage girls to abstain from sex but that she should also stress that if/when the girl gets pregnant, that one of the options is to have the baby and put it up for adoption.
Riiiiiiiiight, you DEMAND that I post what YOU think I "should" say about teen girls and pregnancy. Sorry, pal (not really), that isn't going to happen.

Additionally, I couldn't care less what YOU think is "okay" or not, and I don't need your approval or permission to post whatever I choose to say or NOT say. Don't like it? Too bad.

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Oh, it's gone again. It ran away.
Bitter : " ...developed enough for medical intervention to keep it alive until it IS viable,"

Bitter: " Before a certain point, it ISN'T viable, and no medical intervention will help."

So there it is gang....It's not viable but medical intervention can help it become viable. But if it's not viable no medical intervention will help.

Stupidity reigns !!!!!!!

By the way....

GAME ON !!!!!!!!!!

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The only difference between spontaneous and induced abortion is one is controlled by the body, the other by the mind.
The ONLY difference ? But you said before there was NO difference.
You're all over the place. Make up your mind.

I do understand the ZEF is dead either way. In case you missed it, the original claim was PC couldn't possibly understand this simple fact.
A person who dies of cardiac arrest as a result of a congenital heart defect vs a person who dies of cardiac arrest as a direct result of a murderer's bullet. Both dead either way right?
Major difference in the two ? I'd say so wouldn't you ?
You're not so helpful putting unnecessary words in my mouth, Doc. You're probably better at helping your son take care of his basement. Hope they are well, Doc.
I put zero words in your mouth. I did nothing but reiterate exactly what you've said.

They are well.
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Sorry but I believe it is. You shouldn't be telling the moderator he's full of s__ t.
I think he's full of feces for jesus.

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A person who dies of cardiac arrest as a result of a congenital heart defect vs a person who dies of cardiac arrest as a direct result of a murderer's bullet. Both dead either way right?
Yup.
Major difference in the two ? I'd say so wouldn't you ?
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Not really now. Emotionally and during the "shock" stage, maybe - but dead IS dead.

My mom died after a LONG protracted illness. My dad died suddenly from an aortic tear. A very good friend was murdered after surprising a burgler in her parents home.

The difference between them all was the manner of death, but the end result is the same for all three.

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<quoted text>You are trying way to hard pagan. haha
When one has something as precious to defend as a woman's constitutionally protected freedom to make her own decisions with regard to her pregnancy, one must do it swiftly and zealously. Especially when one's own religion holds her freedom and her life to a higher value than the bondage of an unwanted pregnancy, and the life of her fetus combined.

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<quoted text>The following statement wqs from a real born Jew,

"Judaism does not forbid abortion, but it does not permit abortion on demand. Abortion is only permitted for serious reasons."

Thank you good Pastor

Try again cd.
No need to try. You keep on thinking that a born Jew who's now an atheist is far more authority on Judaism than a Jewish convert who IS a practicing Jew.

But, if all you really want the opinion of a born Jew, why don't take Foo's opinion to heart as much as you take Bobby's? Because she's pro choice?

Earth to dumbdumb, Bobby is also pro-choice.

It's really interesting the level of desperation you fetus worshipers and idolaters have reached; attempting to discredit the pro choice position, using the word of a pro choicer.

You idolaters are really stupid!!

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Let me be clear before we go on...are you talking about teens mothers?
I'm not addressing mature, experienced women who understand both the joys and hardships of motherhood. I'm discussing young, inexperienced teens and young adults who are not mature and experienced.
Are you actually proposing that teen motherhood is good? I'm trying to get your position clear.
Remember, this is a man who stops just short of yearning for the days when women married in their teens and immediately started churning out babies.

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<quoted text>Your quote from last week,

"Actually, without Christianity life would be an endless paradise"

Oh oh!
And I stand by that statement.

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Love how you cherry pick Doc, especially how you chose to only stipulate to 1/3 of what I proposed.
My intent was not to change what you said. I can't change what you said. I can, however, challenge what you said. I have, and you haven't said anything to rebut, or debunk what I've stated. Ralistically speaking, you can't.
That's ok. I knew you couldn't.
Knew I couldn't ??? I just did ! No, check that.....YOU did.
As soon as you acknowledged that there was validity in my claim that FHL's exist to establish the fetus as a separate victim and establish a mechanism with which a perpetrator could be charged and punished for a separate homicide....then you acknowledged that your claim that "Fetal Homicide laws (FHLs) exist for ONE purpose and one purpose ONLY" was not true.

Whether FHL's act as a deterrent and as such "protect" the woman's right to carry to term, is a matter for debate. After all we have laws against murder, rape, robbery, assault, et al and these things still occur. So are the laws really a deterrent ?
Then again, what is NOT debatable is that FHL's establish a mechanism for PUNITIVE measures against a perp for a crime against a fetus.
This matter has been put to bed long ago.
I thought so too, which is why I was surprised to see you and tinker bell bring up the same inaccuracy.

Let sleeping dogs lie Doc, including your babble about viability.
Seems like regurgitating already digested matters is your m.o.
Get real. This entire forum is a vehicle for regurgitating already discussed material over and over and over again.
And as long as I see fallacies continue to be promoted here, I'll continue to point em out. Like this gem.....

Vladdy : Viability is defined as the ability to survive outside the womb WITHOUT medical assistance.

Vladdy : Artificial life support means nothing unless the fetus is viable.

I will continue to delight in pointing out such blatantly contradictory idiocy.....especially when its done a by a pretentious blowhard who passes himself off as a supposed authority on everything.

You can scroll on by if you don't like it.

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<quoted text>You are upset that kmy well written and persuasive conments are right on the mark. The truth can hurt and sometimes it can open your eyes and your heart.

Your choice. I supplied the insightful analysis.
Problem is, you think you speak the truth, when the truth is that a person's free will is something not even G-d disturbs.

Insightful analysis? ROFLMFAO!!

For anything to be an analysis, objectivity is a required element, and you were absent the day G-d passed out objectivity. For something to be insightful, it must point out something the receiver didn't know, or of which he/she wasn't aware. And you've failed miserably at both.

Try again idolater.

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I don't know. By sending them home with life-like babydolls this may actually encourage them to keep and raise a baby if they were to have one. So, I'm not against this.
Except that isn't what happens, overwhelmingly. What actually happens, is that the girl can't handle the "baby" and gladly hands it back to the instructors. Sometimes, the girl is so immature that she can't associate the experience to real life, and blithely blunders on. I doubt it stops kids from having sex, unfortunately.

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Why is it so wrong for us 'misogynistic men' to try to reduce the odds of our wives getting involved with another man and getting impregnated by another man?
I think all cheating starts with a man liking what he sees and a woman liking what she sees. A wife dressing up sexy and then going out into out into public alone, like going shopping, will trigger a sexual response in all the men that she will encounter/pass by.
If a handsome guy starts flirting with her, she will be flattered by this, and she will likely start flirting back. Boom. It begins.
You're an idiot. No offense intended.

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<quoted text>You are trying way to hard pagan. haha
By the way, dumbdumb, let's see how quickly you ignore the "message of love" you hear in Sunday School, or the fulfillment of the "holy spirit," or the message of idolatry you hear from your pastor today. In short, let's see how long the "high" lasts you.

I say it will be all gone by the time you get out of your temple of idolatry's parking lot.

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<quoted text> Yup.
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Not really now. Emotionally and during the "shock" stage, maybe - but dead IS dead.
My mom died after a LONG protracted illness. My dad died suddenly from an aortic tear. A very good friend was murdered after surprising a burgler in her parents home.
The difference between them all was the manner of death, but the end result is the same for all three.
Not really ? C'mon....this whole argument is absurd. If the end result (death) is all that matters then we might as well scrap all of the murder, homicide, manslaughter, etc. statutes on the books right now. I mean....dead is dead right ?
Would there be a difference in our country and in the world today if on Sept 11, 2001 the twin towers had been impacted by a commercial airliner that got lost in a dense fog as opposed to what really happened ?

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One of the biggest pick-up places is the local gym--when men and women are dirty and sweaty.
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Why not? If they have sex right, they're going to do it dirty and end up sweaty, anyway.

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g, I have said in the past that the consequences of any decsion a person makes that is considered sin is between that person and God. A woman who kills her unboprn child will have to answer to
God. God is all lovng and all merciful. I as a Christian can say she has sinned, and she has. As to her judgement, that neither I nor anyone can know. If the circumstances are as dire as some folks portray I trust God will be merciful but just.
That is not always what the proabortion pagans want to hear. They like to play up the 1% of abortions due to rape incest and the "real life" of the mother. They downplay the vast majority of abortions that are more like cosmetic surgery for women. If you support that fine, that is your position and fits nicely woth the heathen views of paganiusm but not with any og the Faiths derived from Abraham.
As the Pasor pointed out most Faiths, inclusding Judaism abhor abortion. In fact jews I have asked had varied responses jusy like Christians. One Jew told me are Faith seems to vary from one synagogue to another. However, abortion on demand is not something most jews are confortable with. I never said that Jews push their beliefs on others. The only folks attacking religion are the pagans. They have a sick and deep seated hatred of Christianity and use this abortion forum as a way to attack Chrisitians and Christianity. They should seek out therapy. However, I have seen Jews at anti-abortion rallies and especially opposed to gay marrtiage, ehich they consider an abomination.
The proabortion pagans and faux Jews(not you),like to play the Christian hate card to blow smoke over the main topic. That being, "Do you beleive someone should be able to get an abortion on demand?" Also, "Is an abortion the killing of an nborn child?". We all give are opinions of that.
Some like Vlady are honest and say yes, others like foofool say no but then yes but no. If you suppoert a weoman's chloice to abort, then you support her cholice period. If you then say I don't support her choice if I don't agree with the timeline, you do not support her choice and are not pro-choice.
Pastor b, gave a great account of the Jewish position and cd and the food have been backpedaling ever since.
Sadly, like their pagan queen, biter, they want the cool modern ability to say they support a woman's "choice" but not the choice she makes. they also like to say they support a woman's choice, but only if it conforms to their "timeline".
So I submit that dispite all the verbiage they like to throw around, they are nothing but proabort pagans that may happen to be involved in a Chritian or jewish Faith but not really of their respective Faith.
The operative word is "support". That is what I call one dimensional thinking. You can't separate supporting the "right" from supporting the "choice".

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