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feces for jesus

East Meadow, NY

#274580 Jan 5, 2013
sassyliciouus wrote:
<quoted text> Yet another death threat.
Yet another display of your hatred(bigotry) for Chrisitans by mocking Jesus.
You are a very angry man. Your unresolved guilt is apparent by your emotional breakdown while spewing intolerance for Christianity.
Sad.
You and others mock other faiths on here all the time. You're a hypocrite and a filthy liar.

“Never give up”

Since: Dec 12

North Olmsted, OH

#274581 Jan 5, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Built-in male trait? That explains all those deadbeat dads out there, huh?
Women can decide whether to remain pregnant or not. Facing "hardship" when you don't have any reason to is called masochism.
<quoted text>
Deadbeat dads aren't real men. Real men work hard to make their marriage a happy one and they love and support their kids.

Women should face the hardships of pregnancy and motherhood since they made the decision to have sex with their partner. You should live with the choices you make and the consequences of those choices. I believe that if you're not strong enough to endure pregnancy and motherhood, then don't have sex.

“Never give up”

Since: Dec 12

North Olmsted, OH

#274582 Jan 5, 2013
sorry for the double post

“Never give up”

Since: Dec 12

North Olmsted, OH

#274583 Jan 5, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
What a misogynistic asshat you are, BS.
Women do accept hardships, when the goal is worth it to us. When it's not, what would be the point? And there is not a damned thing wrong with letting young women know what those hardships are, especially with people like you, who want to pretend to them that it's all sweetness and light.
Easy to say "man up" when you have no idea what a woman goes through. And no, not even being there with your wife will tell you that.
I have to tell you the same thing. I believe if a girl/women is not strong enough and/or not ready to endure the 'hardships' of pregnancy and motherhood, then she should not have sex.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#274584 Jan 5, 2013
BraveCon wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to tell you the same thing. I believe if a girl/women is not strong enough and/or not ready to endure the 'hardships' of pregnancy and motherhood, then she should not have sex.
This has nothing to do with what I said.

Still, it's not your call. Suck it up, Buttercup.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#274585 Jan 5, 2013
BraveCon wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to tell you the same thing. I believe if a girl/women is not strong enough and/or not ready to endure the 'hardships' of pregnancy and motherhood, then she should not have sex.
Oh, and by the way, Moron, did you just happen to notice that's the gist of Ocean's posts? She is advocating abstinence for teenagers, and you idiots are arguing with her.

Use your fricken brain, if you have one.

“Never give up”

Since: Dec 12

North Olmsted, OH

#274586 Jan 5, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
What he wrote was foolish. Women have endured hardships, many of them imposed by oppressive men, for centuries. Women have been the ones who have endured pregnancy and labor since the beginning of humanity. When men lay bleeding and dying on battlefields from wars of their own making who rose to the hardship of caring for them? Women, of course.
"Brave" forgets that before women were made the domestics of the 50s they were in the factories working the men's jobs during the war. Before that they worked their farm fields alongside the men when it was necessary to their lively-hood.
All through history women have steped up to do whatever it takes when they're needed.
Women now voluntarily go to war and fight for the freedom for ALL our citizens, but apparently we are not supposed to enjoy that freedom ourselves.
What else do dinosaurs like "Brave" want from us? To wash their shorts and cook their grub and bear their children and primp their egos and then go scrub their toilets, and then spread for them on demand??
They want a mommy and a maid and a wh@re all rolled into one package known as the wife of the 50s era.
You just helped to prove the point I'm trying to make. You say women throughout history have endured many hardships and done many things to be proud of.

So, if women have proven throughout history that they can endure hardships/rise to the occasion, then why tell young girls that facing hardships no longer has any value and that it is a thing of the past?

Promoting abortion to young girls/women so they won't have to endure any hardship is promoting crowardice in my opinion.

I suppose you think that all young women should divorce their husbands after the first big agrument they have in their marriage.

“Never give up”

Since: Dec 12

North Olmsted, OH

#274587 Jan 5, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, and by the way, Moron, did you just happen to notice that's the gist of Ocean's posts? She is advocating abstinence for teenagers, and you idiots are arguing with her.
Use your fricken brain, if you have one.
Promoting abstinence by telling teenagers that pregnancy and motherhood are 'bad things' to avoid, implants the idea into their brains that pregnancy and motherhood are bad things.

What Ocean is doing is weakening any teenage girl's desire to have and raise a child if/when she gets pregnant before marriage. She is instilling cowardice in teenage girls.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#274588 Jan 5, 2013
BraveCon wrote:
<quoted text>
Promoting abstinence by telling teenagers that pregnancy and motherhood are 'bad things' to avoid, implants the idea into their brains that pregnancy and motherhood are bad things.
What Ocean is doing is weakening any teenage girl's desire to have and raise a child if/when she gets pregnant before marriage. She is instilling cowardice in teenage girls.
She is advocating that they think twice before having sex. Teen pregnancy IS something to avoid.

How stupid ARE you, really?
grumpy

Haverstraw, NY

#274589 Jan 5, 2013
Tom Tom wrote:
<quoted text>
As always my anti-Chritian bigot friend, you are wrong. That old brain of yours is slipping more everyday.
I, as many other prolife folks have said that in the case of a legitimate concern for the life of the mother, abortion becomes a choice of one of two people dying.
If the woman will die without an abortion, myself and others have said we can see the need to abort. Was it killing an unobrn chold, yes. However, it was also saving a life.
What you proabortion zealots like to gloss over is that less than 1% of abortions in America are beccause the mothers life is in danger. The health of the mother has been played to mean, it may make my fingernails brittle.
Sorry, once again your extermism, much like your Zionism, is misplaced and founded on anger noi science or facts.
Please don't bring up Catholisim to me, I'm Christian but not Catholic, and will let the Cahtolic Christians speak for themselves.
Back to the hate mines for you.
I never thought you were anti-choice. I once commented that you posted that a woman's choice was between she and her God.
That's the position of all pro-choicers.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#274590 Jan 5, 2013
See, BS just proved me right. They're arguing with Ocean ONLY because she's not promoting abstinence in the name of religion.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#274591 Jan 5, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
<quoted text>
You and others mock other faiths on here all the time. You're a hypocrite and a filthy liar.
That's the truth. Her self-righteous indignation is a joke.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#274592 Jan 5, 2013
BraveCon wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to tell you the same thing. I believe if a girl/women is not strong enough and/or not ready to endure the 'hardships' of pregnancy and motherhood, then she should not have sex.
Tell that to all the men/boys who will relentlessly pester her for sex. Tell that to all the men/boys who will lie to her to get sex. Tell that to all the men/boys who will try to use her for sex.

You know, at a certain time in your lives you males will do or say anything to get sex. You live by your gonads.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#274593 Jan 5, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
She is advocating that they think twice before having sex. Teen pregnancy IS something to avoid.
How stupid ARE you, really?
No kidding. Tell girls to avoid sex because they're not ready for the real and unexpected hardships of motherhood...bad. Tell girls to avoid sex because some myth man and the old crocks in the Vatican say so...good.

I choose to work with reality every time.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#274594 Jan 5, 2013
BraveCon wrote:
<quoted text>
You just helped to prove the point I'm trying to make. You say women throughout history have endured many hardships and done many things to be proud of.
So, if women have proven throughout history that they can endure hardships/rise to the occasion, then why tell young girls that facing hardships no longer has any value and that it is a thing of the past?
Promoting abortion to young girls/women so they won't have to endure any hardship is promoting crowardice in my opinion.
I suppose you think that all young women should divorce their husbands after the first big agrument they have in their marriage.
Let me be clear before we go on...are you talking about teens mothers?

I'm not addressing mature, experienced women who understand both the joys and hardships of motherhood. I'm discussing young, inexperienced teens and young adults who are not mature and experienced.

Are you actually proposing that teen motherhood is good? I'm trying to get your position clear.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#274595 Jan 5, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
No kidding. Tell girls to avoid sex because they're not ready for the real and unexpected hardships of motherhood...bad. Tell girls to avoid sex because some myth man and the old crocks in the Vatican say so...good.
I choose to work with reality every time.
If he really thinks it's bad to warn teenaged girls of the hardships they may face as a teen mother, why is he here, instead of protesting outside of schools that send those girls home with the life-like babydolls designed to teach them the very same thing?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#274596 Jan 5, 2013
Punish women for having sex...yawn. Bear children they can't afford or have no desire to raise...all because they dare to enjoy sex like men do.

There're few concepts more meaningless than deciding who is "real": who is a real man, a real christian, a real conservative, etc. It reveals nothing more than the innate prejudices and fears of the judge; it says nothing about those being judged.
BraveCon wrote:
<quoted text>
Deadbeat dads aren't real men. Real men work hard to make their marriage a happy one and they love and support their kids.
Women should face the hardships of pregnancy and motherhood since they made the decision to have sex with their partner. You should live with the choices you make and the consequences of those choices. I believe that if you're not strong enough to endure pregnancy and motherhood, then don't have sex.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#274597 Jan 5, 2013
And I presume a woman should endure the hardship of having an abusive husband?

"Can endure" is different than "must endure". If she doresn't wish to "endure" suffering and has alternatives, she doesn't have to.
BraveCon wrote:
<quoted text>
You just helped to prove the point I'm trying to make. You say women throughout history have endured many hardships and done many things to be proud of.
So, if women have proven throughout history that they can endure hardships/rise to the occasion, then why tell young girls that facing hardships no longer has any value and that it is a thing of the past?
Promoting abortion to young girls/women so they won't have to endure any hardship is promoting crowardice in my opinion.
I suppose you think that all young women should divorce their husbands after the first big agrument they have in their marriage.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#274598 Jan 5, 2013
Tell you what--you get pregnant and then tell us what it's like.
BraveCon wrote:
<quoted text>
Promoting abstinence by telling teenagers that pregnancy and motherhood are 'bad things' to avoid, implants the idea into their brains that pregnancy and motherhood are bad things.
What Ocean is doing is weakening any teenage girl's desire to have and raise a child if/when she gets pregnant before marriage. She is instilling cowardice in teenage girls.

“Never give up”

Since: Dec 12

North Olmsted, OH

#274599 Jan 5, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell that to all the men/boys who will relentlessly pester her for sex. Tell that to all the men/boys who will lie to her to get sex. Tell that to all the men/boys who will try to use her for sex.
You know, at a certain time in your lives you males will do or say anything to get sex. You live by your gonads.
This is another case for girls/women needing to 'man up'. You should be teaching teenage girls to tell guys that if they truly love them, then they will wait until they are both 18 before having sex.

If the boys/men don't like that, tough. They can always make out with a blow up doll until they are 18.

Also, you can't blame men/boys and the lies they tell as the only reason for teenage girls getting pregnant. They are also being pressured by their peers to have sex. What teenage girl wants to be the only one in her school who hasn't had sex before the age of 18?

Mature women need to really stress to all teenage girls that having sex does not make you 'cool' or 'chic', it justs makes you a fool who then has to ask her parents to spend a lot of money on either getting an abortion or raising another child.

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