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Kenose

Westbury, NY

#268885 Dec 7, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
"One doesn't miscarry a child. A child is already born."
You're always wrong because you can't understand what you read, and ignore what would be impossible for anyone with an IQ above 10 should be able to understand. You people try to ignore what's already been defined, and try to redefine what's already been defined.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/child
"
child
[chahyld] Show IPA
noun, plural chil·dren.
1. a person between birth and full growth; a boy or girl: books for children.
2. a son or daughter: All my children are married.
3. a baby or infant.
4. a human fetus.
5. a childish person: He's such a child about money."
By definition, not only is a fetus a "child" (definition 2 & 4), but you are a "child".(definition 5)
Definition #1, the primary defition, was obviously ignored by you. Sure we can accept what the dictionary says.... can you?

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#268886 Dec 7, 2012
STO wrote:
<quoted text>
You're paranoid.
Not paranoid, fool, observant.

CA is your isp and pbfa displayed hers, as well. She's also posted from AZ isp. Her Cypress, CA was the exact same isp as when she was trolling here under another username.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#268887 Dec 7, 2012
http://www.webmd.com/baby/tc/molar-pregnancy-...

A molar pregnancy is a pregnancy; the woman is treatedlike any other pregnant woman with a problematic pregnancy.
worships reality wrote:
<quoted text>
having symptoms of pregnancy doesn't mean you're pregnant.
exactly?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#268888 Dec 7, 2012
Ask a frigging doctor about it.
worships reality wrote:
<quoted text>
call it whatever you want but don't call it pregnant.
it's not, stupid.
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.c...

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#268889 Dec 7, 2012
Kenose wrote:
<quoted text>
Definition #1, the primary defition, was obviously ignored by you. Sure we can accept what the dictionary says.... can you?
^^^PROOF your intelligence level is less than a 2nd grader's. They would know that when a dictionary defines a word, ALL definitions apply to what the word means, not just the 1st one.

lol I always enjoy it when you numbskulls prove what ignorant buffoons you are.

The primary definition doesn't negate the other definitions. ALL the definitions apply to what "child" is, or they wouldn't be listed, you ignorant buffoon.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#268890 Dec 7, 2012
Kenose you're another who's a "missed" embarrassment to yourself.

You ARE an embarrassment to yourself, your brain just hasn't noticed it yet.
STO

Vallejo, CA

#268891 Dec 7, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
Not paranoid, fool, observant.
CA is your isp and pbfa displayed hers, as well. She's also posted from AZ isp. Her Cypress, CA was the exact same isp as when she was trolling here under another username.
CA is a big state. I'm observant, too, and I observe you're being a grouch.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#268892 Dec 7, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
What part of letter (a) "a)After the death of the fetus,"
confused you?
Only your letter (c) talks about expulsion being the ending of pregnancy.
Epic fail, Toots.
The only epic fail is you, Lynne. Then again you are used to being such an epic fail anyways.
STO

Vallejo, CA

#268893 Dec 7, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
Kenose you're another who's a "missed" embarrassment to yourself.
You ARE an embarrassment to yourself, your brain just hasn't noticed it yet.
You said the difference between miscarriage and elective abortion was natural death vs. being killed, so I asked you if your ultimate goal in advocating to illegalize abortion is to categorize abortion as murder.

??

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#268895 Dec 7, 2012
STO wrote:
<quoted text>
CA is a big state. I'm observant, too, and I observe you're being a grouch.
I observe you're another PC idiot.
STO

Vallejo, CA

#268896 Dec 7, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
^^^PROOF your intelligence level is less than a 2nd grader's. They would know that when a dictionary defines a word, ALL definitions apply to what the word means, not just the 1st one.
lol I always enjoy it when you numbskulls prove what ignorant buffoons you are.
The primary definition doesn't negate the other definitions. ALL the definitions apply to what "child" is, or they wouldn't be listed, you ignorant buffoon.
Context determines the definition intended.

May I ask, do you really believe PC folks are evil?
STO

Vallejo, CA

#268897 Dec 7, 2012
Kathwynn wrote:
<quoted text>
The only epic fail is you, Lynne. Then again you are used to being such an epic fail anyways.
Ever notice how AC folks often come to the board in a foul mood?

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#268898 Dec 7, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
No it didn't. Your posts proved you can't read for comprehension.
Just because a woman doesn't know she miscarried, doesn't mean it didn't happen if the fetus IS dead.
You don't even understand what "Missed Miscarriage" is.
http://www.pregnancyetc.com/what-is-a-missed-...
"When it comes to miscarrying, the majority of women experiencing one will have identifiable symptoms such as cramping, nausea, and bleeding, which is often heavy...
... With a missed miscarriage, the woman has no exterior symptoms of losing the pregnancy because the body fails to "notice" the loss of the baby....
... As a result, the fetal tissue is not immediately expelled by the uterus....
...Although there may be no typical signs of a miscarriage, for a woman suffering a missed miscarriage, she may stop feeling the symptoms of pregnancy, such as nausea, tender breasts, etc...
...With most any other miscarriage, the body will take care of expelling the fetal tissue on its own, but with a missed miscarriage, you may have to resort to medical intervention to ensure that you do not retain the fetal tissue, which can eventually result in infection. If the pregnancy is earlier than 8 weeks, your doctor may give you misoprostol to encourage the uterus to expel the tissue. After 8 weeks, your doctor may take a wait and see approach to allow the body to eventually react to the miscarriage naturally...."
Did they say wait for the body to react to the miscarriage? What miscarriage? The one that happened when the fetus died but there weren't any symptoms of losing the baby, even though the fetus wasn't expelled, and so the woman doesn't know her pregnancy ended? Why yes, that is what they're saying about a "missed miscarriage".
Miscarriages that have no symptoms are what a missed miscarriage is, and it says that doctors may take a wait and see approach to allow the body to react to the pregnancy having "miscarried".
Missed miscarriage is only about [the (woman's body) not recognizing the pregnancy ended], when the fetus died, and the body is not having the usual symptoms of miscarriage such as "cramping, nausea, and bleeding, which is often heavy".
Don't know how many different ways this can be worded for dummies, but I doubt the pro-choicers will understand it, no matter how it's written. Miscarriage means signs of pregnancy will decrease and ultimately stop because the pregnancy ended. The body does take time for the changes to occur, depending on the type of miscarriage that happened.
Fetus dies, pregnancy is over, whether fetus is still in utero or is expelled naturally.
This discussion is about D&C procedure for miscarriages, and that procedure not being an abortion procedure. Bitner likes to try to bring in "missed miscarriage" so that it can fit the PC lie that a D&C after miscarriage would be an abortion procedure, using the "still pregnant" bullshit. It's ridiculous.
Pro-choicers have tried and failed on every level to make any sense of the stupidity they've posted about it.
YOU are the one who can't read.

Tell me, what is a missed period? What is a missed appointment?

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#268899 Dec 7, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
I'm orry, I thought thecodes copied as wel Here are te codes Ayakaneo had provided back in Ot.
ICD 9 - International Classification of Diseases
634 Spontaneous Abortion
635 Induced Abortion
636 Illegally Induced Abortion
637 Unspecified Abortion
638 Failed Attempt Abortion
ICD 9 Code for D&C
69.02 - Dilation and curettage following delivery or abortion.
CPT - Current Procedural Terminology
Code 59812
Dilation and curettage for the surgical management of an incomplete abortion.
Right I told you "with the distinction of the type of abortion".
STO

Vallejo, CA

#268900 Dec 7, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
I observe you're another PC idiot.
Lighten up.

We disagree. So what? It's not the end of the world. Get over it.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#268901 Dec 7, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
Here's more info they won't understand.
Miscarriages have warning signs or there are symptoms once the fetus died. "Missed miscarriage" only means there are no symptoms to indicate the fetus died. That's all missed miscarriage means.
http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pregnancycom...
~"Most of the time all types of miscarriage are just called miscarriage, but you may hear your health care provider refer to other terms or names of miscarriage such as:
Threatened Miscarriage:
Some degree of early pregnancy uterine bleeding accompanied by cramping or lower backache. The cervix remains closed. This bleeding is often the result of implantation.
Inevitable or Incomplete Miscarriage:
Abdominal or back pain accompanied by bleeding with an open cervix. Miscarriage is inevitable when there is a dilation or effacement of the cervix and/or there is rupture of the membranes. Bleeding and cramps may persist if the miscarriage is not complete.
Complete Miscarriage:
A completed miscarriage is when the embryo or products of conception have emptied out of the uterus. Bleeding should subside quickly, as should any pain or cramping. A completed miscarriage can be confirmed by an ultrasound or by having a surgical curettage (D&C) performed.
Missed Miscarriage:
Women can experience a miscarriage without knowing it. A missed miscarriage is when embryonic death has occurred but there is not any expulsion of the embryo. It is not known why this occurs. Signs of this would be a loss of pregnancy symptoms and the absence of fetal heart tones found on an ultrasound."~
All types of spontaneous abortions have symptoms except the "missed miscarriage". That's why it's considered "missed". The body [failed to recognize] the fetus died.
Not at all the same as "missed period" as Bitner the DOPE thinks. What's "missed" in a "missed miscarriage" are [the symptoms] that it happened.
LOL, once again, your own source confirms my point. Check "completed miscarriage".

Now, tell us, what is a missed period? What is a missed appointment?

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#268902 Dec 7, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
Ayakaneo: "You brought it up in February and you were told then that a D&C was not an abortion by at least 3 PC posters. I told you it wasn't an abortion so that's 4 PC posters. So ruling out the fact that it wasn't me, Foo, Elise or Katie, who said it?"
Really? In Feb. you say? Go find those Feb. posts and prove it.
All you post is your claim, but you don't back it with the posts you're making claims about.
Ayakaneo: "You're so good at remembering what people posted and understand the context of what they posted even when you were not posting at the time, you should have no problem remembering who said it."
You're the one who wasn't here when this discussion 1st took place, and you're the one who tries to defend posts you weren't here to read at the time, but YOU think you know what was said. The only reason you know anything is because I'm the one providing the links, post numbers and posts proving the pro-choicers did say what I claimed they said. You provide your version of what you think they meant in what they said, to try to make their claims fit, when what's within their posts proves you wrong.
You did it with the Ariel thing too when you claimed Foo was talking about the other girl missing when mentioning the age of 14, and Foo's the one who proved you wrong, but saying she "misspoke" about the age, in referring to Ariel.
You're a pro-choice kiss up fool who has a habit of trying to make the lies pro-choicers post fit the facts, rather than looking at the facts of what was actually posted and seeing that they lied.
I provided the post numbers and you've already replied #268770. I'm still waiting for you to provide the post where a PC'er said a D&C was an abortion.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#268903 Dec 7, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
"One doesn't miscarry a child. A child is already born."
You're always wrong because you can't understand what you read, and ignore what would be impossible for anyone with an IQ above 10 should be able to understand. You people try to ignore what's already been defined, and try to redefine what's already been defined.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/child
"
child
[chahyld] Show IPA
noun, plural chil·dren.
1. a person between birth and full growth; a boy or girl: books for children.
2. a son or daughter: All my children are married.
3. a baby or infant.
4. a human fetus.
5. a childish person: He's such a child about money."
By definition, not only is a fetus a "child" (definition 2 & 4), but you are a "child".(definition 5)
Rocks and glass houses, LynneD. Someone who calls people "Bonehead" regularly lives in the latter, and shouldn't be throwing the former.

Interesting, how you want to quote the dictionary here, yet ignore the medical definition of abortion. Dishonest, to say the least.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#268904 Dec 7, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
No it didn't confirm that, lol. A missed miscarriage is when the woman's body [failed to notice] the "loss of the baby". The woman doesn't know she's no longer pregnant, but she isn't, reagrdless of whether she knows it or not.
http://www.pregnancyetc.com/what-is-a-missed-...
"... With a missed miscarriage, the woman has no exterior symptoms of losing the pregnancy because the body fails to "notice" the loss of the baby....
... As a result, the fetal tissue is not immediately expelled by the uterus....
...Although there may be no typical signs of a miscarriage, for a woman suffering a missed miscarriage, she may stop feeling the symptoms of pregnancy, such as nausea, tender breasts, etc..."
Nonsense, you just can't read.

Tell us, what is a missed period? Or a missed appointment?

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#268905 Dec 7, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
You look so stupid each time you post your ignorance about a missed miscarriage, and also each time you try to compare it to a missed appt. or period.
Nah, you just can't answer it without confirming my point, that's all. So, you deflect.

What is a missed period? Or a missed appointment?

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