Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 310234 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#268748 Dec 6, 2012
Thanks! Love the epitaph!
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
You're right. A lot of things will stay with you. Things she used to say, things she found funny, things she liked, etc.
Here is an epitaph I saw at a local cemetery..."Don't cry because it's over, be glad it happened".
My condolences.

Since: Sep 08

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#268749 Dec 6, 2012
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
Lisa, I'm sorry you didn't get the memo that DNA analsysis results are conclusive: The preborn baby is NOT part of mom's body.
Please do pay attention.
TIA.
Actually, a zygore, embryo and fetus ARE part of the woman's body. They are ATTACHED via blood vessles, umbilical chord (belongs to the mom), etc ... thus is PART OF the body.

If it wasn't part of her body while gestating, there would be no ZEF.

There are many things that can be PART OF THE BODY whether its temporarily or permanantly to death - that doesn't share the same DNA as the human host - such as tumors. In fact, there are certain cells in the human body that have NO DNA AT ALL.

Since: Dec 09

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#268750 Dec 6, 2012
No Relativism wrote:
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Target archery uses a quiver, arrows, bow, and target.
One archer shoots at a target. Another archer shoots at a target that has a sleeping baby placed just in front of it.
In your mind, AyakaNeo, both archers are using same equipment, and using same technique. You ignore the fact that the second archer kills a little human in pursuit of the target.
Your analogy is poor considering you supposedly have the higher education in the medical field. No i have not ignored the fact a fetus is killed, I've acknowledged that fact a few times. You ignore the fact that a pregnancy is not terminated until a live or dead fetus is removed and it makes no difference what equipment is used to remove it. It's the same bow and arrow in any type of abortion, spontaneous or intentional.

Since: Dec 09

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#268751 Dec 6, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't call you bonehead, I called you Cluerless. That's ho bad your reading comprehension is.
Reading comprehension has nothing to do with the fact that you have referred to me as a bonehead in previous posts related to the same subject.
lil Lily wrote:
I posted a quote from you and my reply isn't at all what you misread.
Lil Lily wrote
<quoted text>
" It's going to say therapeutic D&C for (type of abortion)."
Exactly. It's in the TYPE of abortion that makes a D&C different from case to case. A theapeutic D&C for spontaneous abortion is not the same as a D&C to induce abortion.
Pro-lifers already stated those facts, Clueless, since Jan..~
Your argument back then was:#221297
lil Lily wrote:
How about the fact that a D&C for a miscarriage is NOT "an abortion" like pro-choicers claimed it was, and that too was refuted by pro-lifers with facts, and all pro-choicers did in the face of facts was impotently try to deny the facts. lol
For which Foo replied:
"Nobody claimed it was Lynne. The FACT is a D&C FOR an abortion is the EXACT SAME PROCEDURE as a D&C for ANY other purpose".
If no one said it was an abortion what exactly is there to refute?
lil Lily wrote:
I wasn't saying the D&C PROCEDURE was different, I was saying the REASONS for the D&C procedure were different, and would be charted in patient's file, coded and billed differently. Why? Because a D&C for spontaneous abortion is a DIFFERENT REASOM for D&C than a D&C for an induced abortion. It's not an "abortion procedure", not an "abortive procedure" after miscarriage. It's still just a dilation and curettage procedure, for a DIFFERENT reason than "abortive" when it's after miscarriage.
We've already proven it with links and it's you idiots who keep misreading everything, including what's on links provided.
You said nothing about charting, coding or or anything of that nature until Elise brought it up:
elise in burque wrote:#221323
<quoted text>Medically, they are often referred to as abortions because the procedure and purpose is the same, medically. Whatever you have read online doesn't address what individual physicians write in their notes. It's all the same thing whether you like it or not. You are anti-choice, therefore you don't accept that. Sorry.
You replied:
Prove D&C's used after miscarriages "Medically, they are often referred to as abortions", Elise. See, now that's a claim, not a question. Prove your claim.
Now you're saying you knew it all along but you continued to argue with me about the same thing back in October.
lil Lily wrote:
I'm not just saying that, you have all proven it by posting to us as though we've said something we haven't said. You people do that all the time, and it's not because we can't write, it's because you don't have the skills to understand what you're reading.
Yes it is because you cannot express yourself intelligently nor can you remember what you argue about.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#268752 Dec 6, 2012
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
"As I suspected would happen, you'd prove your lack of reading comprehension skills."
ROTFLMAO! You're projecting.
I was saying, that your reading comprehension is lacking, and it is.
I did, indeed, go to the link. I read the entire thing, and you're still wrong.
You want to pretend that, on this site that is not medical, the word "may" means other than that someone might call it that. This proves nothing but your basic dishonesty is wanting to twist something into something it's not.
Your own source still proved you wrong. So did the medical definition of abortion, which is the ending of the pregnancy
a)After the death of the fetus,
b)accompanied by the death of the fetus,or
c)resulting in the death of the fetus
by the EXPULSION of the fetus.
Which means when the fetus dies does not determine whether or not the pregnancy is ended. When it's expelled does.
What part of letter (a) "a)After the death of the fetus,"
confused you?

Only your letter (c) talks about expulsion being the ending of pregnancy.

Epic fail, Toots.
No Relativism

Belleville, IL

#268753 Dec 6, 2012
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>He doesn't know what informatics is. He doesn't know that nursing is a wide open profession and many specialties in nursing do not involve patient care. He is ignorant and needs to shut up.
Foo: How typically dishonest of No Relevance to leave out one of the more important lines in that article:
"The report recommends that nurses specializing in informatics work with interdisciplinary teams to modify clinical documentation and workflow." Not all nurses are involved in billing and coding dear.

Elise: He doesn't know what informatics is. He doesn't know that nursing is a wide open profession and many specialties in nursing do not involve patient care. He is ignorant and needs to shut up.

__________

Foo reinforced my point.

"The report recommends that nurses specializing in informatics work with interdisciplinary teams to modify clinical documentation and workflow."

The report recommends that you familiarize yourself w/ coding to improve your "documentation & workflow." You work on a clinical interdisciplinary team, dear. Your knowledge of coding improves chances for reimbursement.

Since: Dec 09

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#268754 Dec 6, 2012
worships reality wrote:
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wrong. all accepted definitions of 'pregnant' specify "developing" . if fetus is dead it is no longer developing and woman then, by definition, is no longer pregnant.
damn you're stupid.
Sorry, but legally the only accepted definition of pregnancy is the medical definition and it does not specify that a woman is pregnant only when the fertilized egg is still "developing". As long as there is a fertilized egg that has implanted in the uterus she is pregnant and even Lynne will agree to that.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#268755 Dec 6, 2012
Bitner wrote:
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Yes, I read the link.
YOU are reading it wrong. Sorry.
Your failure to address the fact that the medical definition of abortion clearly proves that a woman with a dead embryo/fetus in her uterus is still pregnant, and that it's the expulsion of it that aborts the pregnancy, is telling.
You listed (a),(b) and (c) as to what the end of pregnancy is, and only letter (c) mentioned when fetus is expelled.

You posted:
"Your own source still proved you wrong. So did the medical definition of abortion, which is the ending of the pregnancy
a)After the death of the fetus,
b)accompanied by the death of the fetus,or
c)resulting in the death of the fetus
by the EXPULSION of the fetus.

Which means when the fetus dies does not determine whether or not the pregnancy is ended. When it's expelled does. "

No, from what you posted, only letter (c) says that. Letters (a) and (b) say it's when fetus dies.

Obviously you're the one who doesn't understand what you're reading or posting.

Epic fail, again.
No Relativism

Belleville, IL

#268756 Dec 6, 2012
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, a zygore, embryo and fetus ARE part of the woman's body. They are ATTACHED via blood vessles, umbilical chord (belongs to the mom), etc ... thus is PART OF the body.
If it wasn't part of her body while gestating, there would be no ZEF.
There are many things that can be PART OF THE BODY whether its temporarily or permanantly to death - that doesn't share the same DNA as the human host - such as tumors. In fact, there are certain cells in the human body that have NO DNA AT ALL.
DNA analysis of a tumor from your body would still show it was part of your body (albeit w/ an aberration).

Results from DNA analysis of mom and preborn baby would indicate two unique, distinct human beings.

Mom doesn't have two beating hearts.

Although Johnny Carbon disagrees, a woman pregnant w/ a boy does not have a penis.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#268757 Dec 6, 2012
Bitner wrote:
Okay, I'll try to dumb this down for you, LynneD.
"A missed miscarriage occurs when a fetus has died in the womb or in utero."
Clearly, they are saying that the fetus has already died, and it is still in the uterus.
"Most times when this occurs,"
When WHAT occurs? The death of the fetus.
"the body naturally begins the miscarriage process and the fetus is released from the body."
Here, they are clearly saying that the miscarriage has not yet, though MAY soon, begin. They are NOT saying it's already done with the death of the fetus, but that it may soon, naturally, BEGIN. No miscarriage yet means the woman is still what? Pregnant.
"In some instances miscarriage does not begin right away, and the pregnant woman has little to no indication that anything is wrong."
The fetus is already dead, but the miscarriage may not have begun yet. Guess what? That means, and they even say so by CALLING her the pregnant woman, is still pregnant.
"Should this state continue"
WHAT state? The woman's pregnancy with a dead fetus.
"there might be symptoms of a missed miscarriage that can be assessed."
MISSED miscarriage. Missed meaning it's not happened yet. That means WHAT? That the woman is STILL pregnant.
Did you understand THAT time, LynneD?
I'm Lily, and you can't even get that right. It's sad to see you try so desperately and still fail at logic, adult reading comprehension and intelligence.

Bitner: "That means, and they even say so by CALLING her the pregnant woman, is still pregnant."

Only hormonally, you moron. Logically, the pregnancy is OVER when the fetus dies. Only a mental case would try to argue that when a fetus dies, the pregnancy hasn't ended. And here you are...

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#268758 Dec 6, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
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What part of letter (a) "a)After the death of the fetus,"
confused you?
Only your letter (c) talks about expulsion being the ending of pregnancy.
Epic fail, Toots.
Read on.

You are the one with reading comprehension problems, though, so I don't hold out much hope for you.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#268759 Dec 6, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
You listed (a),(b) and (c) as to what the end of pregnancy is, and only letter (c) mentioned when fetus is expelled.
You posted:
"Your own source still proved you wrong. So did the medical definition of abortion, which is the ending of the pregnancy
a)After the death of the fetus,
b)accompanied by the death of the fetus,or
c)resulting in the death of the fetus
by the EXPULSION of the fetus.
Which means when the fetus dies does not determine whether or not the pregnancy is ended. When it's expelled does. "
No, from what you posted, only letter (c) says that. Letters (a) and (b) say it's when fetus dies.
Obviously you're the one who doesn't understand what you're reading or posting.
Epic fail, again.
LOL, no, it's still you who can't read.

Carry on.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#268760 Dec 6, 2012
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
DNA analysis of a tumor from your body would still show it was part of your body (albeit w/ an aberration).
Results from DNA analysis of mom and preborn baby would indicate two unique, distinct human beings.
Mom doesn't have two beating hearts.
Although Johnny Carbon disagrees, a woman pregnant w/ a boy does not have a penis.
You lie. No DNA analysis will show a result that says "human being".
No Relativism

Belleville, IL

#268761 Dec 6, 2012
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>Your analogy is poor considering you supposedly have the higher education in the medical field. No i have not ignored the fact a fetus is killed, I've acknowledged that fact a few times. You ignore the fact that a pregnancy is not terminated until a live or dead fetus is removed and it makes no difference what equipment is used to remove it. It's the same bow and arrow in any type of abortion, spontaneous or intentional.
AyakaNeo: "It's the same bow and arrow in any type of abortion, spontaneous or intentional."

As you stand before the two targets, you overlook the sleeping baby in front of one target. The archer not only seeks to hit the target w/ his bow & arrow, he intends to kill the baby in process.

Since: Dec 09

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#268762 Dec 6, 2012
HuskerDu wrote:
<quoted text> Haven't you had any religious training in your sad life?
If religious training means following your example of "religious training", I'll pass.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#268763 Dec 6, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
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"I'm Lily, and you can't even get that right. It's sad to see you try so desperately and still fail at logic, adult reading comprehension and intelligence."

That's part of your CURRENT screen name. I'm simply using one of your OLDER screen names.

Are you the same person who used to post here on Topix under the screen names of LynneD and Persevere?

"Only hormonally, you moron. Logically, the pregnancy is OVER when the fetus dies. Only a mental case would try to argue that when a fetus dies, the pregnancy hasn't ended. And here you are..."

Now you're just making shit up. Nowhere does it say only hormonally.

LOL, read on. Not that I hold out much hope you'll understand what you read.
Katie

Puyallup, WA

#268764 Dec 6, 2012
have any of my posts showed up (besides the one of condolences for cpter)?
Katie

Puyallup, WA

#268765 Dec 6, 2012
is that invisible cape working?
No Relativism

Belleville, IL

#268766 Dec 6, 2012
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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Why is it your kind ALWAYS make up stupid shit like this, then wonder why nobody takes you seriously?
NR: Target archery uses a quiver, arrows, bow, and target.
One archer shoots at a target. Another archer shoots at a target that has a sleeping baby placed just in front of it.
In your mind, AyakaNeo, both archers are using same equipment, and using same technique. You ignore the fact that the second archer kills a little human in pursuit of the target.

Foo: Why is it your kind ALWAYS make up stupid shit like this, then wonder why nobody takes you seriously?
__________

Foo, you are a deathscort.

You are the evil individual who escorts & places sleeping baby in front of target.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#268767 Dec 6, 2012
Katie wrote:
have any of my posts showed up (besides the one of condolences for cpter)?
You mean the ones the No Relevance is ignoring? Yeah, I've seen them :)

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