Need for wind farms in Maryland trumps aesthetics argument

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With ominous global warming accelerating year after year, why can't Maryland construct a single clean-energy wind farm within its borders? Gov. Full Story
brant

Annapolis, MD

#1 Dec 26, 2007
I noticed that you did not include anywhere close to Baltimore as a potential site for the wind farm. Hmmm. Why would that be?? How about looking in your own neighborhood before you try to dump something off on the rest of the state.
Dona Tracy

Centerville, MA

#2 Dec 26, 2007
Do document your claim that "Early arguments against wind farms as a danger to bird populations have been disproved by new scientific research." What new scientific research? The latest study from Tug Hill, NY shows that over 6,000 birds and bats died there in one year as a result of collisions with wind turbines.
mark h

Baltimore, MD

#3 Dec 26, 2007
o k, o k, i read both opinions above . i am from baltimore and am in favor of w / t in my neighbor hood, if i am to recieve a lower utility bill. i realize some birds might perish. given global warming in the back ground a few birds ( 6k according to DT above ) is better...then all birds and planet kind.
Dona Tracy

Centerville, MA

#4 Dec 26, 2007
6,000 birds and bats dead at ONE wind farm in one year is not a few.

However your main concern, your electric bill, will go up not down. Studies in Delaware have shown rate payers would be paying an extra $55/month.

As to global warming wind turbines will do absolutely nothing to halt it. Since wind is intermittent, they rely on conventional power plants to operate. So, they will only add more industry to your area not less and will do nothing to lower CO2.
willig

Oakland, CA

#5 Dec 26, 2007
Leave it to environmental hypocrites like Bobby Kennedy, Jr. and others who don't want wind turbines in their back yards. They persist, like Al Gore, in traveling by private jets and then berate the tax payer for not buying into their global warming scam.
Bluedawg

Washington, DC

#6 Dec 26, 2007
Oh, come on. Maryland is not a large state, once our finite natural resources, eg mountain ridges are clear cut, they're gone for good. At least loggers are regulated and have to replace trees.
Wind power is great, so put it offshore from Ocean City, out of sight, good luck making a system that can survive the ravages of Mother Nature. Or perhaps put some windmills on the Bay Bridge, the World Trade Center in Baltimore, or perhaps the State House in Annapolis?
Even if an out of state company is allowed to build windmills in Maryland and destory some of our finite natural resources, what guarantees do we have that the electricity generated in our state will benefit the residents of Maryland?
Bluedawg

Washington, DC

#7 Dec 26, 2007
And another thing, why not decentralize electric power? I think that the company that develops the first economically viable solar, wind, or biomass, system that can be used on new homes or retrofitted to existing homes, will reap billions. If you want real alternative energy, you need to get away from relying on corporations like Constellation or PEPCO.
mark h

Ellicott City, MD

#8 Dec 26, 2007
o k DT, global warming real or hoax. i got to figure even with extra industry there exist less polution with WT. their very existence is to furnish energy. If the WT energy replaces the energy usage of say 1500 homes surely this is a good thing, even if the WT energy consumption needed was worth 100 homes or 300 homes.

the birds and bats even at one location, i figure the birds would learn the lesson of flying over or around but not to exstinction.

$55 extra dollars a month, well i believe utility bills will never go down as long as profit is the motive of our utility companies.
Mike Brown

Stevensville, MD

#9 Dec 26, 2007
We should follow the example of California, which after many billions of dollars developed giant wind farms that provided a whopping 2.5 percent of their electrical needs. Money well spent I'd say!

They did away with them because birds happen to fly into them and perish, and all of us know that birds are of far greater importance than mankind. They are to the guardians of the environment that buy into the hysteria of the Reverend Al Gore, he of the carbon offset companies which rake in millions.

Mr. Tidwell, make sure you blow out your candles at night, and be sure to keep the door to the root cellar closed tight to keep your food from spoiling. If we all lived like you there wouldn't be a need for that nasty old electricity.
John Bambacus

Braddock Heights, MD

#10 Dec 26, 2007
Interesting comment by Mr. Tidwell, "that word leaked that Mr. O'Malley was considering leasing state land in Western Maryland to turbine development." Doesn't the public, especially those of us who actually live in Garrett and Allegany Counties, and really spend time in our state forests, have a right to know what our government is planning to do to us?
More importantly is the indisputable fact that very little has been done in the area of planning and policy development at he local, state, and national levels of government on this matter.
Let's face reality: The real reason U.S. Wind Force and the State of Maryland are moving so quickly---LITTLE OR NO REGULATION.
A regulatory framework at all these jurisdictional levels is largely no-existent.
MJD

Rimforest, CA

#11 Dec 27, 2007
Thank You! Wind Farms Need Our Support!!!!!!!!!!1

Since: Apr 07

Baltimore, MD

#12 Dec 27, 2007
C-CAN was on the right track last year with the Clean Cars bill to reduce CO2 emissions. If they are now pushing for an industrial installation in our state forests, it's a different story. Many dedicated Marylanders have spent years working for more protection for the state forests, not an industrial wind farm. What will Mr. Tidwell propose next, nuclear power plants?
Jack

Fort Collins, CO

#13 Dec 28, 2007
The 50 meter wind maps for the entire state show 'marginal' wind potential - except for the far tips of Md and Va along the Bay's mouth - why place these on scenic mountains - the ocean is a far betetr location imo - and I expect wave power to do much better than wind eventually.
Rich

Sterling, VA

#14 Jan 3, 2008
Yes there are problems with these proposed windmills and we need to make sure that windmills are built in the best areas for wind (which excludes the Baltimore and Washington areas) and to environmental standards.

Windmills do reduce global warming because they offset fossil fuels when the wind is blowing. No power plant works continuously.

As to the other solutions, such as distributed power, yes bring them on too. And conservation as well - each new McMansion uses more than its share of energy.
Solarman

United States

#15 Jan 3, 2008
Rich wrote:
Yes there are problems with these proposed windmills and we need to make sure that windmills are built in the best areas for wind (which excludes the Baltimore and Washington areas) and to environmental standards.
Windmills do reduce global warming because they offset fossil fuels when the wind is blowing. No power plant works continuously.
As to the other solutions, such as distributed power, yes bring them on too. And conservation as well - each new McMansion uses more than its share of energy.
There is an area that has wind a great part of the year and windmills went up there about 10 years ago. The long term impact aside from the asthetics and bird kills is the intermittancy of the power source. Without proper storage facilities for the power produced, when produced, you could actually cause brown outs and surges on the grid if large numbers of these devices were used for power generation in a relatively small area. Also in the last 10 years with windmills,there have been a few brush fires caused by mechanical failure of the windmill gearbox,genset itself.
Concerned_Citize n

Alexandria, VA

#16 Sep 25, 2008
Before our hard earned tax dollars are spent, we need to make certain that they are spent right.
Please check this out:
http://www.reasonablepower.com/1/somethingtos...
I have read the links that are given on that page. I think more people should know this.
Richard Smith III

Frederick, MD

#17 Oct 31, 2012
Concerned_Citizen wrote:
Before our hard earned tax dollars are spent, we need to make certain that they are spent right.
Please check this out:
http://www.reasonablepower.com/1/somethingtos...
I have read the links that are given on that page. I think more people should know this.
I like their use of physics. That explains why the wind turbines are being called a "not work" design. I want a wind powered generator from http://www.reasonablepower.com . They make big generators. Maybe I will have the money later.
Mike

Frederick, MD

#18 Dec 28, 2012
Richard Smith III wrote:
<quoted text>
I like their use of physics. That explains why the wind turbines are being called a "not work" design. I want a wind powered generator from http://www.reasonablepower.com . They make big generators. Maybe I will have the money later.
I studied Mechanical and Electrical engineering both for my degree. The physics formulas are correct. The math is correct. http://www.reasonablepower.com is correct. I see their logic.

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