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Palmerfr

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Jan 5, 2009
 
I have a 2005 XC90 (2.5AWD). This year we have found that traction on slippery, snow covered roads is terrible. This has happened with the DSTC control on, which is what I would expect should be the case with these driving conditions.

I'm interested in knowing if others have experienced similar problems. And if so how did you handle? Before I head to the dealer I'd like to be better educated.
palmerfr

Boston, MA

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Jan 18, 2009
 
Though others apparently haven't experienced this problem, let me post what the dealer did to fix the problem. Their analysis computer found a code indicating that a "damper" was needed in the computer software controlling the vehicle traction system. This cost $200. I haven't tried out in slippery conditions yet, but hopefully it will work. Better than many thousands for transmission work.
VTIkes

Rochester, MA

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Feb 2, 2009
 
We have had pretty good driving experiences with our '07 XC90 AWD up until this weekend when we were unable to climb the slightest incline in Vt on a moderately snow covered road. Needless to say this was both dangerous, inconvenient and annoying. We have not had the problem looked at by Volvo but just this weekend I ran into 3 other XC90 owners in Vt that had the same complaints. The DSTC was on as was the "W" Winter driving selection. I called two dealers in Vt and the one in Rutland was not suprised and described the problem as one that either dealt with the rear axle "sleeve" or bracket, or a computer malfunction, depite the fact that no error message was displayed. One dealer in Burlington, though it could be the tires, which I have now read are an ongoing problem on this car.
We will report our findings after the Salem, MA dealer takes a look at it. Can't wait.
palmerfr

Milton, MA

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Feb 6, 2009
 
VTIkes wrote:
We have had pretty good driving experiences with our '07 XC90 AWD up until this weekend when we were unable to climb the slightest incline in Vt on a moderately snow covered road. Needless to say this was both dangerous, inconvenient and annoying. We have not had the problem looked at by Volvo but just this weekend I ran into 3 other XC90 owners in Vt that had the same complaints. The DSTC was on as was the "W" Winter driving selection. I called two dealers in Vt and the one in Rutland was not suprised and described the problem as one that either dealt with the rear axle "sleeve" or bracket, or a computer malfunction, depite the fact that no error message was displayed. One dealer in Burlington, though it could be the tires, which I have now read are an ongoing problem on this car.
We will report our findings after the Salem, MA dealer takes a look at it. Can't wait.
Look at my Jan. 18 posting. The "damper" fix has apparently worked. During the most recent snowe storm we tested out our XC90 on the hill we could not climb before. No problem at all. Good luck with your trip to the dealership.
Speedbird800 UK

Reading, UK

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Feb 6, 2009
 
If you guys across the pond have been watching the international news, you will know that in the UK we don't do snow that well at all. I have a 06 XC90, I can tell you that I looked a right idiot when I couldn't move off a little piece of Ice this week. Even worse when I got stuck down a one way hill face in the wrong diretion.

I have the car booked into the Garage in 12 hours time. I will let you know how I get on. At the moment my XC90 is working in 2 wheel drive only.
VTIkes

Rochester, MA

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Feb 9, 2009
 
Update: The dealer in Salem, Stutz Volvo, claims to have checked the AWD system including the computer, the axle "sleeve" and bracket. Nothing wrong according to them except that the OEM Pirelli tires had lost their effectiveness due to tread wear after only 22K miles. Quite a coincidence since the car is under warranty for everything but the tires. Having now checked the other forums I see that tires are an ongoing issue with this car. The dealer picked up 2 of the 4 tires we had to buy but it still ended up costing over $500. I am completely disgusted with Volvo and do not plan on buying this vehicle when our lease runs out.
PS. I did not drive the Volvo this weekend on the snowy mountain roads of Vermont despite having new tires. I just don't trust this car anymore. I instead drove my 4WD Toyota Truck. On my way down a very steep and icy mountain road I saw a XC90 off into the ditch on the side. After stopping to offer my assistance I offered the driver a piece of advice: If you plan on doing any more winter driving, sell your volvo and buy something else.
palmerfr

Jamaica Plain, MA

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Feb 9, 2009
 
VTIkes wrote:
Update: The dealer in Salem, Stutz Volvo, claims to have checked the AWD system including the computer, the axle "sleeve" and bracket. Nothing wrong according to them except that the OEM Pirelli tires had lost their effectiveness due to tread wear after only 22K miles. Quite a coincidence since the car is under warranty for everything but the tires. Having now checked the other forums I see that tires are an ongoing issue with this car. The dealer picked up 2 of the 4 tires we had to buy but it still ended up costing over $500. I am completely disgusted with Volvo and do not plan on buying this vehicle when our lease runs out.
PS. I did not drive the Volvo this weekend on the snowy mountain roads of Vermont despite having new tires. I just don't trust this car anymore. I instead drove my 4WD Toyota Truck. On my way down a very steep and icy mountain road I saw a XC90 off into the ditch on the side. After stopping to offer my assistance I offered the driver a piece of advice: If you plan on doing any more winter driving, sell your volvo and buy something else.
Did you ask your dealer about the "damper" problem? I wonder if they know anything about it. Seems like the problem goes well beyond replacing tires, which Volvo loves to do. A friend sold his 2004 XC90 at 90,000+ miles. He was on his third set of tires and the dealer said at turn-in that the set on the vehicle were worn. Wonder what the deal is.
rafa

Short Hills, NJ

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#8
Feb 28, 2009
 
We live in Northern NJ and bought our XC 90 two years ago. We have had problems with tire spinning in dry conditions since the beginning. The tires spin frequently especially when we pull out of our road while making a right or left. The spinning in winter conditions is not any better. The Perellis are terrible and am researching a non performance tire. The dealerships have not been helpful and I expected to buy this after a four year lease but that wont happen now.
Phil Longford

Mold, UK

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#9
Dec 28, 2009
 
We've just had a couple of days with snow. Not a common feature here. The XC90 was dreadful! It got stuck everywhere. Dragged out by highly amused Land Rover owner, who could not believe we had so little traction. 4 wheel drive system does not appear to function. Tyres are standard, and good tread. We've had it checked before, and were told everything is working normally. I will mention the 'damper' in the computer software. Hopefully that will give it the traction it needs, and what I expected when I bought the car.
Phil Longford

London, UK

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#10
Jan 17, 2010
 
Dealer has now confirmed that the splined connector to the angle gear has failed. This appears to be a common fault on early xc90s. Volvo now fit an improved part. Trading Standards said that manufacturers can be held liable for defective parts for up to six years (at least here in UK). Car is 2004 D5 with 60,000 miles. Volvo are contributing 50%, and supplying dealer 20%. Seems fair!
In recent snow, to get at least some traction, changed tyres from Continentals, to Goodyear Wrangler AW (all weather). Huge improvement. A bit more rumble, but should be interesting when we actually have 4WD, and good tyres!
2wheel Tim

Oceanside, CA

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#11
Mar 31, 2010
 
A few weeks ago I was driving my '05 XC90 on icy roads and discovered I could not climb a slight hill. I parked the car in a semi-safe place overnight and came back the next day after the roads thawed out a bit. What I discovered was the rear wheels were not driving at all and the DSTC would chop the power going to the front wheels soon after they started to spin-up. It could have been an electronic controller or mechanical; all I know is the rear wheels were absolutely not being driven. The Check Engine light was also illuminated and stayed on until after leaving the snow; at about 45 degrees F at highway speed it went off.
I just had the 67.5K tune up completed at an independent shop, the shop owner said there was no fault codes stored. Is this possible?...are there different ways or locations to dig out the fault code that illuminated the Check Engine light? Also, does anyone have any more information about the "damper" fix or failed splined gear?
Thanks!
VTIkes

Rochester, MA

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Dec 13, 2010
 
Well here it is a year later and we are still having the same issue with the traction on our 2007 XC90. We are unable to climb the slightest incline if it has a trace of snow or ice. The wheels are skidding and it feels as if there is no power going to them. Tires are not an issue as I just put 4 brand new (less than 500 miles)Gislaved Nord Frost 5's on. Other front wheel drive, 4wd, and AWD vehicles are capable of climbing the same grades with not problem. Last year the dealer "fixed" the issue saying it was due to a low level of transmission fluid in the transfer case. They had no idea of any "damper" issue referenced above. Whatever they did it didn't fix the problem and now I may be out of warranty. Anyone out there have this same issue?
VTIkes

Rochester, MA

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Dec 15, 2010
 
Update: Dealer confirms AWD not working. The dealer claims they have fixed the issue by replacing an oil pressure sensor and pump kit. How this relates to the AWD is beyond me. We will see how it functions on the hills in VT on snow soon enough. They fixed the problem and agreed it was under warranty but then tried to convince my wife the car needed a general service and rotors to the tune of $1200. Good thing she called me first. Thieves, plain and simple.
hjmarcus

Buffalo, NY

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Jan 26, 2011
 
palmerfr wrote:
Though others apparently haven't experienced this problem, let me post what the dealer did to fix the problem. Their analysis computer found a code indicating that a "damper" was needed in the computer software controlling the vehicle traction system. This cost $200. I haven't tried out in slippery conditions yet, but hopefully it will work. Better than many thousands for transmission work.
I'm in Buffalo New York. My 2005 XC-90 is, however, sitting in Middlebury Vt. having experienced the exact same problem as described above. Where did you get the car fixed? If you would rather not post it publicly, please send me an email at specialedlaw@mac.com. Thanks.
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New York, NY

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Feb 4, 2011
 
palmerfr wrote:
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Look at my Jan. 18 posting. The "damper" fix has apparently worked. During the most recent snowe storm we tested out our XC90 on the hill we could not climb before. No problem at all. Good luck with your trip to the dealership.

I would like to know how much did you pay to fix that damper? because i have traction problem in my 2004 xc 90 but i have in the text window "anti-skid service require" the dealers are talking about ttansfer case and brake control module and this is over 4500 hundreds to fix..not thinking in spending this amount of money..your advise will be appreciated
2wheel Tim

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Feb 7, 2011
 
Update: The problem turned out to be a failed splined coupling between the transmission and angle gear. I suppose an argument can be made that if the splines strip out just prior to overtorquing the angle gear the driver saved potentially thousands of dollars. As it turns out the dealer charged $1,600 (P&L) to replace the coupling.
This failure was likely self-inflicted because I was trying to rock the XC90 out of the snow (forward-reverse-forward and so on) that morning rather than shovel anymore.
mike g

Sioux City, IA

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Jan 5, 2013
 

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Shut up already , you wanna know what the problem.is ?, u dont know how to drive , i have a 2005 xc 90 , never had a problem , drive in terrible conditions all the time in nepa...
VTIkes wrote:
Update: The dealer in Salem, Stutz Volvo, claims to have checked the AWD system including the computer, the axle "sleeve" and bracket. Nothing wrong according to them except that the OEM Pirelli tires had lost their effectiveness due to tread wear after only 22K miles. Quite a coincidence since the car is under warranty for everything but the tires. Having now checked the other forums I see that tires are an ongoing issue with this car. The dealer picked up 2 of the 4 tires we had to buy but it still ended up costing over $500. I am completely disgusted with Volvo and do not plan on buying this vehicle when our lease runs out.
PS. I did not drive the Volvo this weekend on the snowy mountain roads of Vermont despite having new tires. I just don't trust this car anymore. I instead drove my 4WD Toyota Truck. On my way down a very steep and icy mountain road I saw a XC90 off into the ditch on the side. After stopping to offer my assistance I offered the driver a piece of advice: If you plan on doing any more winter driving, sell your volvo and buy something else.
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#18
Jan 16, 2013
 
I also have the same problem on my 2005 XC90. It is totally useless in snow of any amount. The car constantly breaks loose on wet roads. Driving with the Winter setting, I call it the Wet setting, is almost necessary when the roads have any moisture.

I now believe the car has been like this since I bought it 7 years ago. I never liked the traction in snow and at 120,000 miles, I'm on my 5th set of tires. Yes, it works better with new tires, as do most front wheel drive cars.
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#19
Feb 16, 2013
 
I have just bought an 03 XC90 D5 and the B function does not work on the trip computer. Has anyone had any problems with it and what can be done?
Vulva sux

Wessington Springs, SD

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Mar 9, 2013
 
mike g wrote:
Shut up already , you wanna know what the problem.is ?, u dont know how to drive , i have a 2005 xc 90 , never had a problem , drive in terrible conditions all the time in nepa...
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