'99.5 VW Jetta rear middle seat belt trouble.

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Mike

Narberth, PA

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Jul 6, 2007
 
I got seat covers for my Jetta and while putting them on the back seats, the middle seat belt became jammed. It's now so tight that it's tough to put the seat in the upright position. I was wondering if there is a release for that seatbelt or not. The local dealer told me that there is a hinge under the seat (by the buckle) and I am having trouble finding it. The person from the dealer did say it was not easy to do, but I was wondering if it were possible and if so, how do I go about releasing that middle seat belt. Thanks a lot. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Sep 24, 2008
 

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hey, im having the exact same problem if anyone can help that would be great
Lee

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#3
Jan 16, 2009
 
Same here. Typical VW crap! Can not even find the right rear belt buckle. Apparently they did not install it. P.O.S.!!!!
Jonathan

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Feb 12, 2009
 
Mine too, no one has ever used my center belt. It's obious that VW doesn't care about safety when I point this out to them.
Michael

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Mar 14, 2009
 
There is a button sewn into the middle of the seat belt that is supposed to prevent it from going in too far, but it easily slips into the mechanism and gets jammed. I called VW and asked what they thought of the lack of passenger safety, they basically said it was up to me to get it fixed somehow.
Miller

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May 1, 2009
 

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Center rear seatbelt Stuck: the seatbelt has a hook at the bottom of it, if you get it un-hooked the seatbelt should loosen up. Mine was doing the same thing and became so tight I couldn't put the seat back upright. There is a silver piece that flips up to keep the seat belt loop from accidently coming off. I lifted up the lowers seat area and tilted it forward then lowered the back of seat forward. With it forward I used needle-nosed plyers to pinch the silver piece and pull it down while unlooping the seatbelt from the hook it is on. The silver piece is on a spring mechanism that does have small pulls on the sides of the hook to move it. It is hard to describe but I hope it helps. I got mine off and loose so at least I can put the seat back up. The question is now how to fold the seats down without having the seat belt jam up again.
vw_lover

Montréal, Canada

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Jul 30, 2009
 
Hello! I also have the same problem on a 99 Jetta GLS. I tried everything. Now i will try what you've done. I hope it will fix it. If it does, I thing i'm going to remove that belt forever.
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Center rear seatbelt Stuck: the seatbelt has a hook at the bottom of it, if you get it un-hooked the seatbelt should loosen up. Mine was doing the same thing and became so tight I couldn't put the seat back upright. There is a silver piece that flips up to keep the seat belt loop from accidently coming off. I lifted up the lowers seat area and tilted it forward then lowered the back of seat forward. With it forward I used needle-nosed plyers to pinch the silver piece and pull it down while unlooping the seatbelt from the hook it is on. The silver piece is on a spring mechanism that does have small pulls on the sides of the hook to move it. It is hard to describe but I hope it helps. I got mine off and loose so at least I can put the seat back up. The question is now how to fold the seats down without having the seat belt jam up again.
Nerfherder

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Dec 17, 2009
 
Miller's post was key. This is my experience with my 2002 Jetta rear center seat belt stuck problem:

Flip the base seat cushion forward against the front seat backs. Trace down along the belt to its tether point on the floor. The belt is sewn around a steel loop. The loop is anchored to a black steel hook. A thin silvery retainer plate is spring tensioned on top of the loop to prevent it from sliding off of the hook when the seat back is folded.

Therefore, you need to press the silvery retainer plate away from the hook (push up) to allow the loop to be slid from the hook. The belt was tight with the seat back in the upright position, so it was necessary to fold the seat back forward to create slack in the belt. Now push the belt loop towards the trunk and slide it off of the end of the hook (only possible with the retainer plate pushed up out of the way).

Now with total release of tension on the system via the bottom end of the seat belt being untethered and with the seat back returned to the upright position, normal extension and retraction of the belt will be reestablished. Now simply extend the seat belt and slide the loop back into place over the floor hook. It snaps past the silvery retainer plate without all the effort required to hold the plate up during removal of the loop during disassembly.

Check again, the seat belt should be extending and retracting properly. Now just put the seat cushion back into regular position and you will be able to safely buckle up three people across the back seat.

It took about as long to do this repair as it has taken to post this answer to the problem. Note, the seat belt safety mechanism only allows normal extension and retraction of the belt when the seat back is upright.

A thought about prevention of recurrance of jamming: when folding the seat back forward and down, first extend the centre belt so that it is slack. I will see how that works at preventing jam ups.
No One Knows O_o

Calgary, Canada

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Dec 28, 2009
 
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Mar 7, 2010
 
Nerfherder,

This worked perfectly, thanks so much. After four years I am able to finally put my back seat down again.
kim

Hollis, NH

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Mar 21, 2010
 
I did exactly this, but, the belt still does not have play. It only wants to go further in to the inside of seat, making a click each time it winds in there. There is no ability for the belt to just "rest"- all it wants to do it wind it's whole self back in to the seat. Any advice? I am worried that it will go all the way back in, with the belt untethered from the seat base.
Thanks!
LCG

Seattle, WA

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#12
Jun 4, 2010
 
I have a 1999 Jetta and just ran into the same stuck seatbelt problem. Miller's post worked but the damn thing stuck again right after I fixed it. I disconnected it a second time, and this time draped the belt over the back of the seat (so that it is in the trunk when the back seat is closed upright and covering the trunk). I can't use the midele seatbelt now but I couldn't use it when it was stuck either. This should be a safety recall item!
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Nerfherder wrote:
Miller's post was key. This is my experience with my 2002 Jetta rear center seat belt stuck problem:
Flip the base seat cushion forward against the front seat backs. Trace down along the belt to its tether point on the floor. The belt is sewn around a steel loop. The loop is anchored to a black steel hook. A thin silvery retainer plate is spring tensioned on top of the loop to prevent it from sliding off of the hook when the seat back is folded.
Therefore, you need to press the silvery retainer plate away from the hook (push up) to allow the loop to be slid from the hook. The belt was tight with the seat back in the upright position, so it was necessary to fold the seat back forward to create slack in the belt. Now push the belt loop towards the trunk and slide it off of the end of the hook (only possible with the retainer plate pushed up out of the way).
Now with total release of tension on the system via the bottom end of the seat belt being untethered and with the seat back returned to the upright position, normal extension and retraction of the belt will be reestablished. Now simply extend the seat belt and slide the loop back into place over the floor hook. It snaps past the silvery retainer plate without all the effort required to hold the plate up during removal of the loop during disassembly.
Check again, the seat belt should be extending and retracting properly. Now just put the seat cushion back into regular position and you will be able to safely buckle up three people across the back seat.
It took about as long to do this repair as it has taken to post this answer to the problem. Note, the seat belt safety mechanism only allows normal extension and retraction of the belt when the seat back is upright.
A thought about prevention of recurrance of jamming: when folding the seat back forward and down, first extend the centre belt so that it is slack. I will see how that works at preventing jam ups.
Bill

Pincher Creek, Canada

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Dec 19, 2010
 
Nerfherder wrote:
Miller's post was key. This is my experience with my 2002 Jetta rear center seat belt stuck problem:
Flip the base seat cushion forward against the front seat backs. Trace down along the belt to its tether point on the floor. The belt is sewn around a steel loop. The loop is anchored to a black steel hook. A thin silvery retainer plate is spring tensioned on top of the loop to prevent it from sliding off of the hook when the seat back is folded.
Therefore, you need to press the silvery retainer plate away from the hook (push up) to allow the loop to be slid from the hook. The belt was tight with the seat back in the upright position, so it was necessary to fold the seat back forward to create slack in the belt. Now push the belt loop towards the trunk and slide it off of the end of the hook (only possible with the retainer plate pushed up out of the way).
Now with total release of tension on the system via the bottom end of the seat belt being untethered and with the seat back returned to the upright position, normal extension and retraction of the belt will be reestablished. Now simply extend the seat belt and slide the loop back into place over the floor hook. It snaps past the silvery retainer plate without all the effort required to hold the plate up during removal of the loop during disassembly.
Check again, the seat belt should be extending and retracting properly. Now just put the seat cushion back into regular position and you will be able to safely buckle up three people across the back seat.
It took about as long to do this repair as it has taken to post this answer to the problem. Note, the seat belt safety mechanism only allows normal extension and retraction of the belt when the seat back is upright.
A thought about prevention of recurrance of jamming: when folding the seat back forward and down, first extend the centre belt so that it is slack. I will see how that works at preventing jam ups.
I had this same problem and discovered that if you pull the plastic cover off where the belt goes into the retractor mechanism, then use a long screwdriver to push down a small black square button(it's on the left or drivers side of it, way down inside), this releases the lock. Next time I will just try this, and hopefully won't have to even remove the belt from the bottom.
NMDC

Washington, DC

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#14
Mar 8, 2012
 
I just wanted to register that I am having the same problem in a 2005 Jetta.
Alex

Northampton, MA

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Oct 2, 2012
 
Me too...2003 Jetta Wagon. It's failed inspection and the dealer quote to replace is $400+....
John

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#16
Oct 2, 2012
 
Have same problem on 99.5 Jetta; should have been a safety recall; fits with the many other problems I have had with this car, easily the poorest quality car ever owned.
meslin

Stouffville, Canada

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#17
Aug 5, 2013
 
Thanks Miller and NerfHerder!!

We were able to unhook our latch from the bottom. Woohoo!
Mike

Austin, TX

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Sep 1, 2013
 
On the left side at the bottom of the seat you will find the seat hinge (next to the door).
1. Take screwdriver and rotate latch until the latch pin will clear.
2. Pull latch pin up (out of the latch) and push the seat free from the center latch pin (requires some attitude adjustment, but just make sure the door latch pin is clears the plastic wheel well cover). You can try to pull the seat from the center pin, but it's fairly difficult to get it loose. Pushing from the drivers side is easier.
3. Push the detached seat forward slightly to reveal a 17mm bolt that holds the center seat belt. It's under the felt covering the floor pan (looks like black carpeting ... just follow the stuck belt.) Remove the bolt.
4. Raise the seat to the plane approximating where it normally mounts. The belt lock is a gravity set and will release (pull the belt straight up) when the seat angle is close to the original angle.
5. Pull the belt out fully and lock the belt in the fully extended position with a clamp (or whatever you can find). If at first the belt doesn't come out of the seat, just change the angle slightly and keeping pulling the belt straight up out of the seat until it comes all the way out.
6. Install the seat belt bolt you removed.
7. Insert the seat back onto the center latch pin.
8. Slide the seat back onto the outer latch. When you close the seat the latch will snap shut to remount the seat.
9. Tie the belt around a both seat belt receivers. Keeping the belt extended will allow you to release the belt with no tension so you can pull the belt out of the seat.
10. NEVER CLOSE THE SEAT WITHOUT HAVING THE SEAT BELT EXTENDED. YOU WILL HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH TO OPEN THE BELT AGAIN!
Hope this helps. I've had to repeat this procedure every time my wife buys something and drops the seat. She releases the belt before dropping the seat. It retracts and has to be released again. Probably done it 10 times.
Good luck.
Yolitatx - Houston - TX

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Dec 7, 2013
 
I have a 2004 VW Jetta (the basic model). I bought it used about 5 years ago, with only 22K miles on it. So far I've been very lucky with it, except for some cosmetic problems. The biggest is the SPOILER. It's so low in front that every time I park the spoiler gets stuck on the edge of the sidewalk or on top of the stop-bump and when I get in reverse, this spoiler gets rip-out from the bumper. I've repaired it so many times that I decided to get rid of it once and for all and I'm getting used of the "weird" look in the front... but it's better than to have the spoiler half-hanging from the front bumper. Now the newer PROBLEM:
I'm getting a lot of dirt coming thru the vents on my front panel,inside the car. It looks like dirty pieces of foam and every time I use the a/c or open the vents to let fresh air in the car, I end up with a big mess on my clothes and on the front seats... so I have to keep those vents closed, which doesn't allow the cold air from the a/c come in, or doesn't warm my car in the winter.
Is there some way to stop this from happening? I already pressure-wash under the hood and looks clean.... but can't figure out from where the dirty "foam-like dirt" comes from. Anyone has had this problem? The car runs great and it only has 36K miles on it. I don't want to give it up just yet, since I feel I haven't used it long ago to get my money's worth for the few miles I have run it.
Besides, I can't afford to buy a new one anyway. Other than closing the vents I don't see any other solution, but then my a/c and my heater won't blow air into my car, and I can't ride with the windows down in the extreme temperatures we have in Houston. Please, help, any ideas will be appreciate it and considered. Thanks!
Taylor

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Jan 18, 2014
 
This works. For help in visualizing, the silver latch is a lot like a caribeanner or more specifically a carseat LATCH clip (with a spring loaded opening part). So, you have to hold it squeezed open while the other slides out.

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