Camry’s Downfall-Collecting dust on Lots

Camry’s Downfall-Collecting dust on Lots

There are 181 comments on the content.usatoday.com story from Sep 29, 2010, titled Camry’s Downfall-Collecting dust on Lots. In it, content.usatoday.com reports that:

Toyota’s defective and poor quality cars are catching up with it. Americans continue to shun Toyota.

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“Most Honored Senior Member ”

Since: Jun 09

Dallas, TX.

#1 Sep 30, 2010
I'm not surprised.
disillusioned

Miamisburg, OH

#2 Sep 30, 2010
Toyota should have updated the Camry and Corolla. They are bland and outdated. They should have been more proactive on possible defects. They have some PR work to do.

“Most Honored Senior Member ”

Since: Jun 09

Dallas, TX.

#3 Oct 1, 2010
Might we get another best month ever?
Toyota never built exciting cars. None of their vehicles sported innovation or “excitement.”
liner

Bronx, NY

#4 Oct 1, 2010
JJFADS wrote:
Might we get another best month ever?
Toyota never built exciting cars. None of their vehicles sported innovation or “excitement.”
That's certainly true. But what's so bad about that? You want excitement? Buy a Porsche. There are many, many people who consider a car an appliance. Up to recently, Toyota made a pretty reliable, comfortable appliance.
Stop It

Belle River, Canada

#5 Oct 1, 2010
As usual, JJFADS' headers don't tell the full story.
Yes, Camrys aren't moving off dealer lots as quickly as others.
That said, the true picture from the quoted article is as follows:

2010 least time till sale (days on lot):
2010 Chevrolet Equinox (15)
2010 GMC Terrain (16)
2010 Toyota 4Runner (18)
2010 Toyota Highlander (19)
2010 Nissan Pathfinder (19)
2010 Toyota FJ Cruiser (21)
2010 Honda Fit (29)
2010 Subaru Forester (31)
2010 Nissan Maxima (33)

So--two out of ten for the US automakers, and eight for the offshore guys.(Three for Toyota!)

Altho' I'm not a Toyota supporter (nothing against Toyo either!), it actually looks like the US boys have a way to go before getting attaboys for moving product quickly.

Here's my prediction for JJFADS and others benefit (Watch the fireworks now!!):...

(1) The unwitting target of JJFADS' vengeance these days (Toyota) will survive and overcome all this hype they've been getting lately.
(2) They will properly and succesfully resolve their recent short term issues.
(3) They will recover their share reduction within two years and emerge as one of the top three world automakers--perhaps even no. 1!

Last but not least, JJFADS will be required to issue a public apology!

“Most Honored Senior Member ”

Since: Jun 09

Dallas, TX.

#6 Oct 1, 2010
The Toyota Camry is sitting on dealer lots for 238 days; hence they are collecting dust on the lots. This is a major development.
Stop It

Belle River, Canada

#7 Oct 1, 2010
JJFADS wrote:
The Toyota Camry is sitting on dealer lots for 238 days; hence they are collecting dust on the lots. This is a major development.
No question.
But why, when you so glowingly profess to be unbiased, did you not comment on the full context of the article.
Wouldn't it be more truthful and informative to tell the whole story, namely that only two out of ten were GM products, and the rest were offshore brands---three of which were Toyota?

“Most Honored Senior Member ”

Since: Jun 09

Dallas, TX.

#8 Oct 1, 2010
Because this is Toyota’s best selling vehicle.
Stop It

Belle River, Canada

#9 Oct 2, 2010
JJFADS wrote:
Because this is Toyota’s best selling vehicle.
Assuredly, Camry is Toyota's big seller.
But that's not what was asked.
And answering a question by sidestepping it isn't kosher.
The question is about your not speaking to the overall context of the article you quoted.
Now if, as you have repeatedly claimed, you are merely posting "news" in an unbiased manner, why did you only post a selectively negative header on a news article--and didn't speak to the entire article.
The article showed two US automakers out of ten moving quickly off dealer lots.
Eight others doing the same were non US automakers, and three of those were the automaker you consistently post about negatively.
Are we perhaps talking a need for remedial action here?
An extended visit to New Zealand might be in order?
Truckin

Chambersburg, PA

#10 Oct 2, 2010
GM's method to moving cars was to move them to fleet. They also closed a bunch of dealerships and put another 100K Americans out of work.

So much for the stats.
Stop It

Belle River, Canada

#11 Oct 2, 2010
Truckin wrote:
GM's method to moving cars was to move them to fleet. They also closed a bunch of dealerships and put another 100K Americans out of work.
So much for the stats.
Precisely!!
Yet 'nuther classic example of JJFADS' inability (or calculated reluctance) to tell the real stories about all automakers!

“Most Honored Senior Member ”

Since: Jun 09

Dallas, TX.

#12 Oct 2, 2010
Truckin wrote:
GM's method to moving cars was to move them to fleet. They also closed a bunch of dealerships and put another 100K Americans out of work.
So much for the stats.
Did you expect them to continue building cars for 50% of the market? That is one stupid remark.

Dust of those Camry' on the lot, sucker.

“Most Honored Senior Member ”

Since: Jun 09

Dallas, TX.

#13 Oct 2, 2010
Stop It wrote:
<quoted text>
Precisely!!
Yet 'nuther classic example of JJFADS' inability (or calculated reluctance) to tell the real stories about all automakers!
No, not percisely. Those were decisions that had to be made. We should all be thankful these issues were addressed. Perhaps you would like to reverse the clock and re-discuss the BR proceedings? I’ll leave that up to you. Moving forward..
Truckin

Chambersburg, PA

#14 Oct 2, 2010
Stop It wrote:
<quoted text>
Precisely!!
Yet 'nuther classic example of JJFADS' inability (or calculated reluctance) to tell the real stories about all automakers!
GM continues to lose market share in a shrinking market. It's very sad. They'll pull 16% market share in the U.S. this year with. The market itself will be below 12.5 million units, a far cry from the "29 pin" days of 17 million units per year.

“Most Honored Senior Member ”

Since: Jun 09

Dallas, TX.

#15 Oct 2, 2010
Truckin wrote:
<quoted text>GM continues to lose market share in a shrinking market. It's very sad. They'll pull 16% market share in the U.S. this year with. The market itself will be below 12.5 million units, a far cry from the "29 pin" days of 17 million units per year.
Toyota will continue to lose market.

Dust?
Stop It

Belle River, Canada

#16 Oct 2, 2010
Face it gentlemen--the US auto sales picture is still deplorably soft, no matter whose product you consider.
Until the market recovers and it's a sustainable recovery, arguing about who's on first is moot!

And JJFADS cannot predict the outcome any better than anyone else!

That's a fact boys!
disillusioned

Miamisburg, OH

#17 Oct 2, 2010
My guess (and it is only a guess) is that the new stylish models that are relatively inexpensive and fuel efficient will sell better than the older outdated models in the same category in the 2011 model year. I think Ford is ahead of all the others in this area. Toyota will have several new models in the next one to two years.
Mother Mary

United States

#18 Oct 2, 2010
JJFaGs, it amazing how you always are the first to respond to these weird, made up topixs.....dont you think?

The only Autos that are left in the dust are the little 3s cheap products.

And sense the economy is going to stay flat and get flatter and The cash for US auto clunkers wont be around......RIP little 3....Closing up shop, Detroit cant take another lean year.

Its ok, Toyota will always be around.....you can take that to the bank.....we were going to say, put that in your pipe and smoke it, but you probable already did!

“Most Honored Senior Member ”

Since: Jun 09

Dallas, TX.

#19 Oct 2, 2010
Stop It wrote:
Face it gentlemen--the US auto sales picture is still deplorably soft, no matter whose product you consider.
Until the market recovers and it's a sustainable recovery, arguing about who's on first is moot!
And JJFADS cannot predict the outcome any better than anyone else!
That's a fact boys!
I predicted the Toyota market share loss and I predictied the recalls. I also predict further US losses for Toyota.

These are predictions, theres nothing wrong with predicting. It’s a common practice in this indutry.

Questions?
Stop It

Belle River, Canada

#20 Oct 3, 2010
JJFADS wrote:
<quoted text>I predicted the Toyota market share loss and I predictied the recalls. I also predict further US losses for Toyota.
These are predictions, theres nothing wrong with predicting. It’s a common practice in this indutry.
Questions?
Predict to your heart's content my man.
Re your earlier predictions---claiming attaboys for predicting after the fact is just a little--well--presumptuous, don't you think?
After all, those "predictions" were in fact no brainers at the time.

Re auto sales in general---my post you responded to isn't a prediction, it's a fact.
Losses for most, if not all of them will continue.
Singling out just Toyota as losing sales is a fallacy, and you, of all people should know better.
Until you and your fellow citizens get your collective debt situations under control, car sales are going to remain abysmal in the US.
Automakers of all stripes are in for a very hard time for at least the next three or four years, and perhaps even longer.
The glory days of the 90s and early 2000s are history.
The problem?
Too many home equities were leveraged into buying cars, and now those millions of homes are worth less than their mortgages, and people aren't able (or unwilling) to leverage equity into down payments for cars any more.
Sad, but true!
And you can't blame Toyota for that!

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