Tire Pressure Monitoring System Indicator Problem

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Dave S

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Mar 26, 2011
 
2007 highlander. Just swapped over from winter snows to the all season tires and now I get the dreaded tire sensor light. Hit the reset button, light goes out for about 15 min then comes back on. Checked the air pressure in all tires, including the spare, all at 32 psi...light still comes back on after being reset. I would suggest everyone here to file a complaint on the NHTSA web site, they are the only ones TOYOTA will listen to. When enough complaints are recorded NHTSA will eventually tell TOYOTA to fix this along with all the other recalls.
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#23
Mar 28, 2011
 
Dave S wrote:
2007 highlander. Just swapped over from winter snows to the all season tires and now I get the dreaded tire sensor light. Hit the reset button, light goes out for about 15 min then comes back on. Checked the air pressure in all tires, including the spare, all at 32 psi...light still comes back on after being reset. I would suggest everyone here to file a complaint on the NHTSA web site, they are the only ones TOYOTA will listen to. When enough complaints are recorded NHTSA will eventually tell TOYOTA to fix this along with all the other recalls.
How about a piece of black tape over the light?
Ritchie

Fremont, CA

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#24
Mar 31, 2011
 
I have the same problem with my Camry 2007. I tried the reset a few times and followed it exactly according to the directs, but it was useless. It is sad that the Camry is such a good car but Toyota can't get the simple TPMS issue fixed.
Tammy

Augusta, GA

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#25
Oct 13, 2011
 
Brent Muscoby wrote:
I brought my 2007 Toyota Highlander into the dealer for the recommended 8000 km (from Canada, obviously) service and maintenance.
Everything checked out okay. Imagine my surprise when I go to drive the vehicle and I get an indicator alarm I have never seen before (didn't know what a TPMS indicator was until this thing turned on). I was able to figure out what the TPMS indicator is and how to reset it (Owner's Manual). I have reset it a few times and it keeps coming on.
I did not check the tire pressures when I drove it from the dealership so I do not know what the pressures were on the spanking-new vehicle. But they are set at 30 psi currently. The recommendation is 30psi cold.
I do not want this indicator to be a nuisance indicator and I am taking it back to the dealer to document their fix to the issue. If it was anything but a new vehicle I'd spend more time dicking around myself. But I'm not chalking this up to coincidence and chasing red herrings because the timing is too exact to be anything but having originated from the service and maintenance they did on the vehicle. The report says tire pressure okay.
So here is my question.
How does the 2007 Toyota Highlander TPMS work? According to the manual it sounds like it is an indirect method. Other research on Toyota forums and the finger is pointing to indirect monitoring. I took a look at the valve stems and I don't see anything different than regular valve stems. Since this is my first experience with a TPMS I wouldn't have a clue as to what a direct monitoring system valve stem would look like, anyway, so I was hoping it would look "different." But the valve stems look pretty normal to me.
My guess is that with the warm temperature, the techs simply released air pressure until it read 30psi. All tires being equal and there shouldn't be a problem with the indicator.
So, the indicator must have something to do with reference to the spare tire which means it has to be a direct monitoring system.
And this leads to a follow-up question.
What would be an acceptable margin of error for tire pressure deviation be so that it won't alarm due to a difference in "being-used" tires versus the spare tire?
I don't want this indicator to be a nuisance alarm so I'd like to be able to establish an "operating window" for tire pressure to account for temperature change (where I live it is common to have huge daily temperature shifts, and black tires absorb heat, and heat up when driving - I imagine tire pressure shifts to be rather common).
Wouldn't a direct monitoring system also incorporate an indirect system to be able to eliminate discrepencies with the spare tire if all pressures with the "being-used" tires were okay?
Anyone have any thoughts?
I've had the same problem and was told yesterday that I didn't even have sensor anymore. The lights been on forever! I've had tires changed, checked and it still stayed on. I just followed directions on here and found the "tire reset" black button directly below the steering column. The light went off, but I wasn't driving, so I'm not sure if it stays off. I'll have to test it when I leave for home! Finally, NO lights on my dash! Woo Hoo!
Robin

North Branford, CT

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#26
Nov 21, 2011
 
The tire pressure light on my 2011 Toyota Camry is staying ever since I had snow tires put on the other day. I had the pressure checked after the snow tires went on -- and still can't get the light to go off! It really is troublesome.
Joey

Highland Lakes, NJ

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#27
Jan 2, 2012
 
Johnny Most wrote:
I have an 07 Highlander and the same thing plagued me when the dealer rotated the tires the first time. First, set the air pressure when cold to correct pressure as indicated on the door jamb sticker (30 psi I believe).
The owners manual does describe where the reset button is under the dash to turn off the warning light. With the engine ON, push and hold the button until the warning light goes out. What the owners manual does NOT tell you is that you then must then press the button AGAIN and you will see the light blink 3 times. Now the system has been reset.
I don't know if the 07 model is ABS based or has a sensor in the wheel - although I came across this thread because I am looking for the answer to that question myself.
Johnny Most, you da man!!! It fixed my problem!!!!!!
Joey

Highland Lakes, NJ

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#28
Jan 2, 2012
 
Johnny Most: You da MAN!!!!
It fixed my problem... I have been with this problem for 2 years until I read your post!!! Way to go bro!

Since: Mar 12

Howell, MI

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#29
Mar 19, 2012
 
instead of having the stupid Toyota dealers and tire retailers get the light off, how about you try it yourself. TPMSManager.com . Its a software built for tire retailers to better help them service TPMS, yet they still don't use it to its full potential. I used it to relearn my 07 Chevy Tahoe and I don't take it to the tire shop anymore, I just fix the problem myself. They have a 7 day free trial of their software and its pretty badass.
Reed

San Francisco, CA

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#30
Apr 6, 2012
 
'06 Highlander,~155K miles, new third set of tires, new second set of brake pads, first rotor turn.
Went to Goodyear Assurance Comfortred Touring tires.
Less than 20 miles later TPMS idiot light came on.
Repeated sensor resets and visits to the tire shop for inspections etc. Tire shop was dumb. Told me the battery level for the TPMS sensors was low, and later that the spare pressure was low.('06 Highlander uses the ABS induction sensor type, not TPMS in valve stem)
So, this last visit tire dealer changed tires from Goodyear Assurance Comfortred to Goodyear Assurance CS Fuel Max SL saying that the Comfortred style is know to cause issues with the TPMS.
Prior tires were Yoko and then Bridgestone.
I will wait and see, perhaps the tire type is the issue. I certainly hope the issue is not the brake pads or rotor reline (front only)?
More, after a few more miles
Ciao!
R.
liner

Bellport, NY

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Apr 11, 2012
 
Reed wrote:
'06 Highlander,~155K miles, new third set of tires, new second set of brake pads, first rotor turn.
Went to Goodyear Assurance Comfortred Touring tires.
Less than 20 miles later TPMS idiot light came on.
Repeated sensor resets and visits to the tire shop for inspections etc. Tire shop was dumb. Told me the battery level for the TPMS sensors was low, and later that the spare pressure was low.('06 Highlander uses the ABS induction sensor type, not TPMS in valve stem)
So, this last visit tire dealer changed tires from Goodyear Assurance Comfortred to Goodyear Assurance CS Fuel Max SL saying that the Comfortred style is know to cause issues with the TPMS.
Prior tires were Yoko and then Bridgestone.
I will wait and see, perhaps the tire type is the issue. I certainly hope the issue is not the brake pads or rotor reline (front only)?
More, after a few more miles
Ciao!
R.
Reed, I was thinking Goodyear Assurance Comfortreds to eventually replace the Toyos on my RAV. I can't really see the tires affecting the TPMS sensors. Nor would the brakes. Are the tires actually low on air when the light goes on? Have you checked them yourself with an accurate gauge? I generally don't trust shops with stuff like that as I'm too picky.
Reed

San Francisco, CA

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#32
Apr 13, 2012
 
liner wrote:
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Reed, I was thinking Goodyear Assurance Comfortreds to eventually replace the Toyos on my RAV. I can't really see the tires affecting the TPMS sensors. Nor would the brakes. Are the tires actually low on air when the light goes on? Have you checked them yourself with an accurate gauge? I generally don't trust shops with stuff like that as I'm too picky.
I understand completely the "don't trust" the shops. I had a hard time putting the pieces together, but finally >> My Highlander does not have valve stem sensors, nor any sensor in the wheel(rims). My Highlander uses the ABS sensors, behind the rotor in the drive shaft area, to trigger the low tire pressure idiot light, according to multiple sources. I returned to the shop and changed from Goodyear Assurance Comfortred Touring tires, to the Assurance CS Fuel Max SL line, a harder tire. Reset the idiot light, and have just logged over 600 miles without the dumb light coming on.
I cannot explain it, unless the original set of tires had a defect on one, although I would expect to detect a lop sided tire at highway speeds (?), or the original tire design is not compatible with the ABS sensing system. OR, one final thought is that the TPMS was never correctly reset all along, I had reset it, as well as three different shop techs, two shops (?). I am putting this issue into the 'mystery' column for now. I would have liked to have been able to switch between tire sets a couple more times to verify. But, have better things to do on my weekends. Ciao and drive safe!
Reed

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Apr 13, 2012
 
liner wrote:
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Reed, I was thinking Goodyear Assurance Comfortreds to eventually replace the Toyos on my RAV. I can't really see the tires affecting the TPMS sensors. Nor would the brakes. Are the tires actually low on air when the light goes on? Have you checked them yourself with an accurate gauge? I generally don't trust shops with stuff like that as I'm too picky.
Oh, another. I have three pressure gauges, as I ride motorcycle as well. Verified tire pressures all along the way. VIN tag indicates 30psi for this size of tire. Never read less than 27 psi for all four, nor over 31psi. After shop visits I would verify 30psi +-2 max. before leaving the parking lot. ciao

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Howell, MI

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#34
May 22, 2012
 
The tire shops need to purchase TPMSManager. It is the leader in the TPMS industry for TPMS information.
The software as a service (SaaS) is designed to help tire retailers service TPMS quickly and efficiently and have the CORRECT information at the tip of their fingers. Whats also great is customers who want to better understand TPMS can view videos on relearn procedures and other important technical information provided by TIA (Tire Industry Association). If more tire shops used this software program their would be fewer angry customers and a higher ROI for the tire shops in TPMS.
Jeannie

Goleta, CA

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#35
Sep 30, 2012
 
Jeff wrote:
Barb,
I had this same problem with finding the reset button. I couldn't locate it until I went online and found a much better drawing than the owner's manual. The reset button is "WAY" below the steering wheel. I had to physically get out of the driver's seat and crouch under the dash to finally find it. Take a flashlight with you. Unless your Highlander is unlike most of the rest it will be there. Good luck.
Jeff
Thank-you! After looking and looking and looking. I read this a couple times and went out with a flashlight. Yay! I finally found it. I'll see if it stays off. My tires a brand new but I'm sure they didn't check the spare and I will do that later today. Meanwhile I feel safe driving it today :) Thank-you!
Jeff

Saint Cloud, MN

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#36
Dec 22, 2012
 
Thinkin with all these problems a recall would be in order
marduc

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#37
Dec 29, 2012
 
The person who invented this annoyance should be taken along with the run flat tire inventor,the anti theft passlock device inventor, to Afghanistan and make him lead a convoy of UN trucks thru Taliban territory.
Chloe

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#38
Jan 1, 2013
 
I had the same problem with the tire indicator light always being on. I did what Edward Kim suggested -- and guess what -- it worked! Thank you.
kaybea

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#39
Jan 18, 2014
 
With the key in the ON position (but engine not turned on), push and hold the button until the warning light goes out. Wait a moment then press the button AGAIN and you will see the light blink 3 times. Now the system has been reset.

Taken from thread #3

It worked for me.
Ken

Wheaton, IL

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#40
Jan 28, 2014
 
Toyota is a master of creating the perception of a great automobile when in fact they are no better than average. Those who bought one will defend their choice so as not to look foolish. Not so with this owner. My '05 Highlander has been a major disappointment. I am convinced they utilize the cheapest available materials throughout their brand.

Arrived new from factory with three of four wheels out of alignment. Front wheels by 11 cm.(7/16")

Beware power steering failure due to rusted out hydraulic lines.$600 repair charge if by Toyota; and it will rust out again. Made my own of stainless steel for $8.00 retail for materials - 30 minute installation.

HVAC failures due to neglect to include a 1 cent lock washer under the control knob.$1100.00 repair charge if by Toyota. Installed such washer before it lead to failure - 10 minutes effort.

In real dollars, the most expensive make to own.

Good by Toyota, enough is enough.

Electrical engineer.

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