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Are you kidding me? This $600 solar panel produces 85 watts. By comparison, the electric motor in a Prius requires 50,000 watts at full power. And that isn't even an all-electric car, it doesn't have enough battery storage and requires a gas engine too. That $600 solar panel would take nearly 24 hours (at least three days of full sunlight) at full output to fully charge the Prius batteries, and that full charge would be enough to power a typical vehicle at typical cruising speeds for less than 10 minutes. Electric automobiles require very large amounts of electric power, 25 kilowatts at typical cruising speeds. By comparison, the average home uses less than a few kilowatts most of the time, with a few higher peaks for cooking or electric hot water heaters. Solar for automobiles is not practical, unless a large bank of car batteries were charged from a VERY large, VERY expensive stationary solar array. Tom wrote: <quoted text>It looks like you can purchase them from about $600 and up. And this was just the first site I looked at. Maybe you should look around before you try blatantly lying to people. http://www.partsonsale.com/campers2.html
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JOHN wrote: Government unions are a different matter completely. Government employees should be hired and FIRED at the Will of the PEOPLE since we PAY them. Government jobs are strangling our economy by sapping our resources. Government has never gotten more efficient with labor. Outsource the tasks her in the USA. Government unions tend to keep an eye on government money spenders. That tends to reduce the crooked kick-back schemes of contractors who pay to get no bid contracts at every level of government.
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laughs wrote: Are you kidding me? This $600 solar panel produces 85 watts. By comparison, the electric motor in a Prius requires 50,000 watts at full power. And that isn't even an all-electric car, it doesn't have enough battery storage and requires a gas engine too.
That $600 solar panel would take nearly 24 hours (at least three days of full sunlight) at full output to fully charge the Prius batteries, and that full charge would be enough to power a typical vehicle at typical cruising speeds for less than 10 minutes.
Electric automobiles require very large amounts of electric power, 25 kilowatts at typical cruising speeds. By comparison, the average home uses less than a few kilowatts most of the time, with a few higher peaks for cooking or electric hot water heaters. Solar for automobiles is not practical, unless a large bank of car batteries were charged from a VERY large, VERY expensive stationary solar array.
<quoted text> Um yep. And in the sparkling $600 example, you need to include the cost of installation and an inverter. If it were so cheap and easy, everyone would be doing it.
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laughs wrote: Are you kidding me? This $600 solar panel produces 85 watts. By comparison, the electric motor in a Prius requires 50,000 watts at full power. And that isn't even an all-electric car, it doesn't have enough battery storage and requires a gas engine too.
That $600 solar panel would take nearly 24 hours (at least three days of full sunlight) at full output to fully charge the Prius batteries, and that full charge would be enough to power a typical vehicle at typical cruising speeds for less than 10 minutes.
Electric automobiles require very large amounts of electric power, 25 kilowatts at typical cruising speeds. By comparison, the average home uses less than a few kilowatts most of the time, with a few higher peaks for cooking or electric hot water heaters. Solar for automobiles is not practical, unless a large bank of car batteries were charged from a VERY large, VERY expensive stationary solar array.
<quoted text> First of all, I was just talking about supplementing with solar power. I understand that the solar panels that are currently available to consumers are not very good at this time. I was only trying to show that you need to do a little research before say something. I also agree that running an electric vehicle off of only solar power is not quite feasible at this time, but there is no reason that car makers couldn't build an electric vehicle that has plenty of range. Hell, they had them back in the 90's and everyone that drove them loved them. Well, I guess there is one reason, the Oil industry and the government are paying them not to build them.
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Tom wrote: First of all, I was just talking about supplementing with solar power. I understand that the solar panels that are currently available to consumers are not very good at this time. I was only trying to show that you need to do a little research before say something. You said "If you supplement with solar panels you may never have to get electricity from a power plant, depending on where you live. " People living off the grid with solar panels is not the same as powering a car with a $600 kit. Here's a single source that quotes $18k -$30k for a whole house/off the grid system: http://www.duke-energy.com/customer-owned-gen... Sorry if you think that's blatantly lying to people.
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Used vehicles are always a better bargan than new ones..
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The Future
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Build solar panel into the roof of every Prius. I live in the desert and would get my first five miles free every day. When they get the bugs out of the lithium-ion battery, the Prius will be up to 70 MPG. OK, they still use gas, but for the moment, this is the best answer AVAILABLE.
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Yikes wrote: You suggest management is the problem.... There is no way in this global economy that any firm's management is going to be able to "preplan in advance" what the next 3 years' workload is going to look like with any kind of accuracy.
<quoted text> G.M. was assured by our government (the president) that the price of oil would be stable, that they could jawbone the Saudis if needed,(after all, we saved their asses in Gulf war 1.) Acting on this, G.M. poured their money into upgrading their pickup trucks, SUVs, etc. Now they are pouring it into the Volt, but it is still 2 years away. Had they been told oil prices could go skyward and our "friends" the Saudis would withhold production to artificially inflate prices, they would have put the money in the Volt sooner. G.M., like many others, misplaced their confidence in this administration.
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Paul wrote: <quoted text>G.M. was assured by our government (the president) that the price of oil would be stable, that they could jawbone the Saudis if needed,(after all, we saved their asses in Gulf war 1.) I'd like to hear more about this conversation, do you have any links or articles? Especially in the light of tighter CAFE restrictions in the upcoming years. The US and European politicians have all been told "no" by OPEC (Not the Saudi's) so really your tongue in cheek digs at the administration are grounded only in an economical use of the facts.
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Um no wrote: <quoted text>
do you have any links or articles? http://globalwarming.house.gov /mediacenter/pressreleases?id= 226 http://globalwarming.house.gov/mediacenter/pr...
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Paul wrote: I guess a lot has changed in the world since 2000 and campaign promises. Thanks.
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GOOGLE 07 camry transmission problems Learn the truth!!!!!!!!11
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hahah. google "american cars" gas guzzling junk
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The 07 camry is a junk box!!! anyone out there thinking about buying one? google 07 camry transmission problems before you buy it.
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Google "American Cars".
So...you've found "Gas Guzzling Junk".
Now tell me...WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE???"
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Yikes, who would ever believe that "jawboning" was any kind of assurance of stable oil prices? Or would arrogantly believe that one administration could control world oil prices? We have very plain examples in our not-distant history to show us that is not possible. I give the GM exec more credit than buying Bush's assurances. But I think it more likely that once again, as they have done a bunch of times over the last few decades, they simply missed the changing market and are late to the game. Paul wrote: <quoted text>G.M. was assured by our government (the president) that the price of oil would be stable, that they could jawbone the Saudis if needed,(after all, we saved their asses in Gulf war 1.) Acting on this, G.M. poured their money into upgrading their pickup trucks, SUVs, etc. Now they are pouring it into the Volt, but it is still 2 years away. Had they been told oil prices could go skyward and our "friends" the Saudis would withhold production to artificially inflate prices, they would have put the money in the Volt sooner. G.M., like many others, misplaced their confidence in this administration.
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