1982 RR Silver Spirit Hard Warm Start

1982 RR Silver Spirit Hard Warm Start

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Darren Niles

Buxton, ME

#1 Jan 18, 2011
Mine cranks for like 20 seconds when warm befire it sputters to life. When I first start it I always have no issues. I took it ut yesterday when it was far below zero and it started with no issues once it was warm as well. I did notice that for an hour, the engine temperature gauge never moved at all (it usually does work fine in warmer weather) Is this a problem with the temp sensor or a fuel spray adjustment issue?
Joar

Bergen, Norway

#2 May 14, 2011
Hi. I have the exact same problem with my 1982 silver spirit. My best guess so far Is that the hot start problem is due to fuel evap. Did you find a solution?
james

Spain

#3 Jun 3, 2011
Hi Darren and Joar,
yes you are right evaporation is a problem check out your fuel accumelator in the fuel system, what happens is the accumelater holds the pressure in the system to compensate for evaporation. when the engine is cold you have no trouble, starts right away.Its a Bosch part and is around 170. euros where i am, my email is [email protected] if you want me direct, best of luck regards James
Adam

Las Vegas, NV

#4 Jan 23, 2012
Darren Niles wrote:
Mine cranks for like 20 seconds when warm befire it sputters to life. When I first start it I always have no issues. I took it ut yesterday when it was far below zero and it started with no issues once it was warm as well. I did notice that for an hour, the engine temperature gauge never moved at all (it usually does work fine in warmer weather) Is this a problem with the temp sensor or a fuel spray adjustment issue?
.

I have a 1984 spirit, I had the same problem. I replaced my fuel accumulator and have not had a problem since, it's a bosch part cost me around $100.00 purchasing a new one online by cross referencing the part on google. I found an exact match. The accumulator is located next to the fuel pump under the car good luck
Hadi

United States

#5 Dec 30, 2012
I have a 1983 corniche. At cold weather it will take a good 15 minutes before it decides to drive away. I will put the car on drive and it will not move when I press on the gaz. Is this a transmission issue or do I actually need to wait that long for the car to warm up????
Jan Forrest

Rotherham, UK

#6 Dec 31, 2012
How long since you checked the level and condition of the transmission fluid? The method for checking the level should be in the handbook and may be different from the standard one, but I'm pretty sure that it's as follows:

First the engine and gearbox should be up to full operating temperature; which can only happen after a good run of several miles at reasonable speeds.
Now park up on level ground and leave the engine running throughout the rest of the procedure.
Lift the hood, locate the transmission dipstick and return to the driver's seat.
Move the gear lever from Park to Low and back, pausing in each position for 1 or 2 seconds, but no more.
Nip smartly to the engine bay again, remove the dipstick, wipe it on a square of kitchen towel (hang on to that you will need it later), jam it hard back into the tube so that the spring retainer works and IMMEDIATELY withdraw it to read off the level against the marks on the end.

The level should be within a few mm of the 'HOT' mark and neither much too high nor too low. If not you will need to add or drain some. The recommended ATF is Dexron 3 which should also be used in the power steering.
Now look at the kitchen towel. Is the colour a nice, clear cherry red? Is it free from any darker bits in it? Does it smell like fresh oil?
If the answer to any of these questions is 'no' then the whole lot will have to drained and replaced with one or two full flushes between to be certain.
It will also give you the opportunity to examine the magnetized gearbox sump plug for any metal shards - of which there should be no more than a hint. Any more and the gearbox will need to be examined by a transmission specialist. Fortunately Rolls Royce didn't make it, so any competent mechanic should be able to do the work for you.
Check out some more of my responses on this forum for hints and tips on any DIY work you may wish to carry out and sources info to enable you to do them.
Hadi

United States

#7 Jan 1, 2013
Thank you jan. I will test it this morning and revert back.
ray

United States

#8 Jun 1, 2014
My 79 shadow has lost all elec. power turn on the key and get nothing was working fine turned it off and went dead when tried to start it
Jan Forrest

Rotherham, UK

#9 Jun 2, 2014
Check the ignition switch by wiggling it when the key is in. Over time it's not unknown for the internals to wear due to previous owners hanging heavy bunches of keys from it.
Or there may be a big red isolation switch somewhere in the positive lead from the battery. It's usually in the trunk or occasionally under the hood.
Dave Williams

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Jul 1, 2014
Does anyone know the Bosch part number for the fuel accumulator - 1982 Silver Spirit?
Thank you
markshepherd

Trenton, Canada

#12 Jun 15, 2016
Jan Forrest wrote:
How long since you checked the level and condition of the transmission fluid? The method for checking the level should be in the handbook and may be different from the standard one, but I'm pretty sure that it's as follows:

First the engine and gearbox should be up to full operating temperature; which can only happen after a good run of several miles at reasonable speeds.
Now park up on level ground and leave the engine running throughout the rest of the procedure.
Lift the hood, locate the transmission dipstick and return to the driver's seat.
Move the gear lever from Park to Low and back, pausing in each position for 1 or 2 seconds, but no more.
Nip smartly to the engine bay again, remove the dipstick, wipe it on a square of kitchen towel (hang on to that you will need it later), jam it hard back into the tube so that the spring retainer works and IMMEDIATELY withdraw it to read off the level against the marks on the end.

The level should be within a few mm of the 'HOT' mark and neither much too high nor too low. If not you will need to add or drain some. The recommended ATF is Dexron 3 which should also be used in the power steering.
Now look at the kitchen towel. Is the colour a nice, clear cherry red? Is it free from any darker bits in it? Does it smell like fresh oil?
If the answer to any of these questions is 'no' then the whole lot will have to drained and replaced with one or two full flushes between to be certain.
It will also give you the opportunity to examine the magnetized gearbox sump plug for any metal shards - of which there should be no more than a hint. Any more and the gearbox will need to be examined by a transmission specialist. Fortunately Rolls Royce didn't make it, so any competent mechanic should be able to do the work for you.
Check out some more of my responses on this forum for hints and tips on any DIY work you may wish to carry out and sources info to enable you to do them.
Here I left Rotherham to go to Canada , had the same problem with my Rolls and the expert is back in Rotherham - just my luck !!!

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