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Curtis
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J-Nice wrote: <quoted text>
Thats what you think. When we had two tier people in or plant making $14/hr. Over half of them quit before they even got 30 days in. Half of the half that stayed felt that since they were getting half the pay of what we got, they were only going to do half the work. They werent' willing to work as hard as we did, because they didn't have any insurance because Mr. Dauch wanted them to work a year before they could qualify for medical benefits. The workers at AAM are not on strike for just us, it is bigger than us. We are on strike fighting so that everyone that works at AAM makes the same wage and receive the same benefits. We have always fought to bring the lower paid workers to where we were. I wish you all really understood what this fight is all about. It is so much bigger than wages and AAM. I leave this site sometimes so upset after reading the comments of the people who don't even have a clue. You're probably right. No one else has a clue. Equal wages and benefits isn't about money? My father got laid off about 3 weeks ago because of this strike. My parents will run out of savings money in about 2 weeks and Im sure there are people in worse situations than theirs. Everyone is having to make sacrifices because of the poor economy. Its time AAM made theirs.
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Brian
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It's the "race to the bottom" that the UAW warned us about if WE did not get better organized. Start supporting each other, union AND non-union, or watch your local tax base erode within our individual states and communities to a point of bankruptcy.(It's amazing how the anti-union folks do not see the forest for the trees, just to spew anti-labor crap.)
That's right, cutting wages by %60, and eliminating benefits effects EVERYONE in a community and state when those local governments lose those tax dollars; schools, roads, and other basic services erode.
"Delphi layoffs blamed..." The media palys right into the anti-labor movement, sometimes, as well. Check the source of an article before getting all worked up by some more manipulative slander.
Local 2093!! Solidarity!!
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Disgusted with Unions
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Brian wrote: It's the "race to the bottom" that the UAW warned us about if WE did not get better organized. Start supporting each other, union AND non-union, or watch your local tax base erode within our individual states and communities to a point of bankruptcy.(It's amazing how the anti-union folks do not see the forest for the trees, just to spew anti-labor crap.)
That's right, cutting wages by %60, and eliminating benefits effects EVERYONE in a community and state when those local governments lose those tax dollars; schools, roads, and other basic services erode.
"Delphi layoffs blamed..." The media palys right into the anti-labor movement, sometimes, as well. Check the source of an article before getting all worked up by some more manipulative slander.
Local 2093!! Solidarity!! It's the unions that need to see the forest from the trees. The market is readjusting, the skills offered by AAM and Delphi workers can be found in many others. When the supply exceeds the demand, wages come down. And when you add in how unions ruin the productivity of a company, it's no wonder why they seek other alternatives, like taking jobs overseas. If the job you do can be easily done by others, the companies go where they get the best value, period. Now don't start spewing all that crap about how all the jobs are going to go overseas. I don't think I'll ever have to get on a plane to go to a doctor's appointment, or grab a train so I can go to the supermarket. The reality is if you have skills that cannot be easily replaced, for whatever reason, you need not have fear of losing your job or taking pay cuts. So save me the union propaganda, the majority of workers in the U.S are not unions, and I'm not hearing about any widespread problems.
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who in detroit
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Most people wish they could have continued their education beyond high school. Did not happen usually from lack of funds, starting a family, etc.
New hires off the street have to learn the job.
Mistakes in a fast paced factory are very costly.
Safety is very important. Quality work too.
There is little slack in a JIT system.
Most that apply simply will not endure factory life day in day out, especially with low pay.
This is why wages have to be higher there.
Worker turn-over is costly in any business.
What happens when everything is outsorced,
out of the US, then suddenly become unavailable?
Or with little money to spend, who will buy
anything beyond the basic necessities?
Then the competition for the jobs supplying
the basics will heat up,and those wages will fall.
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who in detroit
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typical factory:
loud noises
limited fresh air indoors
temperature usually too hot or too cold
hazards
standing (no sitting while working) all day
breaks only when scheduled
must be present and on time every day
no going home early
you get dirty even if careful
may require special clothes/work gear
drug and alcohol testing
must produce a fair days work
union shops have higher work standards per contract than non-union shops.
try not to stereotype.
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Not A Jake Ass
AOL
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Jake, You are the epitomy of an idiot. I mean really and truly, an idiot. Did I say "idiot"? Okay. Now, just because mommy and daddy blessed you with a silver spoon... sent you to private school... paid for your college.... bought you a car... and continue to loan you money, doesn't make you successful. But, from the sounds of it, you've already found out you're not special. My guess is you're just another dildo dragging it to some meaningless 9-5 job everyday, just like the rest of us. Welcome to the real world buddy! Anyway, the fact that you think the $17 / hour these guys are being paid is some BIG salary is really funny - you must be making dogcrap! Anyway, if you happen to succeed in doing something someday, the second and third tier union salaries won't seem so attractive anymore. Non-Union Jake wrote: <quoted text>
Like you said, I should wait until I'm close to retirement age and have the rules change. Seems like you can tell the future. If that's true, how come your so poorly prepared for what's happening today? Why didn't you look into your crystal ball and get that degree or some other kind of skill that would give you job security today?
Since your track record of predicting the future seems to be way off, I guess I don't have any worries. And guess what, I don't! I'm so glad I won't be spending my weekend walking in circles holding a sign while it's snowing and windy and cold. See, proper planning does work! Try it!
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seA n
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did you say $17 an hour?!?!? shiiiiit,i'll start tomorrow!watch out scab coming thru !!
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Judge it!
