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jttl

Greenbrier, AR

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Feb 1, 2010
 
I have a 2008 Sentra SER Spec-v. Just notice the paint on the side ground effect is peeling. I don't live in a place with lots of ice, so it is not exposed to excessive salt or sand. Has anyone else seen this problem on their 2008 Nissan. This is my first nissan and I'm not planning to buy another one. This is one of many problems I've had.

Since: Nov 09

Plymouth, MI

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Feb 28, 2010
 
Automotive painting is a science.

A typical finish consists of four layers:
1) electrocoat - provides corrosion protection
2) primer - protects electrocoat, stone chip resistance, adhesion
between basecoat and elctrocoat
3) basecoat - provides color to the vehicle
4) clearcoat - sunlight protection, scratch resistance, gloss and appearance properties

Film thickness is a criteria used by the auto industry to ensure durability.

Each of the 4 layers must be at the proper film thickness specification.

If any of the individual layers is below specification. The vehicle would be considered a factory paint defect.

A visible manifestation of low film thickness is paint peeling, body rusting and stone chipping.

Since the mid 1990s the auto industry while retaining ownership of the paint facilities have outsourced the process and quality responsibilities to multiple paint suppliers.

Outsourcing in this application is defined as a process in which a company assigns its in-house operations to a third party.

Specifics on automotive paint suppliers roles within the facilities may be found in textbooks published both in Europe and America. The most recent textbook being released in 2008.

The paint suppliers actively market and advertise their outsourcing expertise with terms such as
"Cost Per Unit" or "Pay As Painted" supplier programs. Outsourcing [Cost Per Unit] programs are
common throughout Europe and America within the auto industry.

Not all vehicle flaws are associated with the paint itself, vehicle design and weathering will
impact the vehicle's finish.

It is our opinion that the automaker, auto dealer and consumer should not receive a vehicle painted
below the automaker's film thickness specifications of any of the four layers that comprise a vehicle's finish.

We have analyzed the film thickness data of over 11,000 vehicles and have found that the measurements are below the automakers' specifications.

Low film thickness will cause paint failures.

Investigation summarized in press releases:
Billions Discovered for Recovery by Automakers
http://www.mmdnewswire.com/auto-industry-6716...

and
New Books Reveal Vehicle Paint Quality Flaws Associated with Outsourcing
http://www.mmdnewswire.com/vehicle-paint-qual...

A quick internet search for the following:

Toyota Paint Problems, Toyota Paint Peeling
Ford Paint Problems, Ford Paint Peeling
GM Paint Problems, GM Paint Peeling
Chrysler Paint Problems, Chrysler Paint Peeling
Honda Paint Problems, Honda Paint Peeling
Nissan Paint Problems, Nissan Paint Peeling

will return results back in the millions.

Public Interest best served by a "Truth in Finish Disclosure" with the purchase of any vehicle.

The automakers trust their suppliers.

They should receive a finish painted to their specifications....
Michael Alvares

Hockessin, DE

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Oct 31, 2013
 
I own a 2002 Nissan Sentra. The "Out of the blue" exterior paint started flaking & peeling over the entire body in 2011. Its an eyesore to look at.
It has had normal exposure to the elements over the last 11 years. I seem to recall reading about Nissan having a problem with this exteriot paint color. I would not buy another Nissan vehicle. Has anyone had a similar problem?

Michael

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