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Honda buddy

United States

#1 Nov 1, 2006
Hi

I hope I can tap your brains a little. I have a 2002 CRV. The engine light came on and we took it to the dealer who said I had 2 oxygen sensors bad. One going into the catalytic converter and the other going out. I also was told that the catalytic converter would have to be replaced because when the sensors were replaced it would damage it. They replaced the converter under warranty but the sensor replacement cost me $900. I have 72000 miles. what I would like to know is this normal to have two sensors go bad at the same time or did the converter damage them. If so should they have been covered under warranty? I swallowed hard and payed the price but is this something that will happen again. Thanks for your feed back.
Questioning 2002 CRV

Indianapolis, IN

#2 May 25, 2007
My wife and I also have a 2002 CRV. The engine light had come on previously, but when we took it in, they said it was probably a bad batch of gas or something (though i can count on one hand the time we haven't filled it up with Shell V-Power gas).

Anyway, we took it to the dealer yesterday (5/24/07) and were told that our catalytic converter and both oxygen sensors had to be replaced. The converter was going to be about $1,550 and the sensors were going to be about $645 and everything combined (with labor) was going to be about $2,195.

Since our car was to be paid off in August, we were a bit disappointed. Granted, it has 150,000 miles, but we've done all the scheduled maintenance and as indicated above, we only put premium gas in it.

We called my father-in-law who is an auto body man who referred us to a local repair shop (not a dealer). The local guy said first he would recommend flushing everything (about $90), then if that didn't work, we could get a new converter for about $600 (with labor). He said it was offensive the dealer would recommend the sensors be replaced. He said they don't go bad.

We're going to take it in on Tuesday for them to work on. The car's in great shape otherwise and we've been very happy with the car otherwise. I don't think I'm upset with "Honda", but I won't be taking my car back to the dealer again.

I understand the local shop is likely going to use either a replacement or a salvaged part, but to try and suggest a part that is three times as expensive as what it otherwise would have to be is a bit offensive.

That answer may not help your specific question, but I've been searching for similar stories and yours is the closest I've found to this point. Good luck!
CVR 2003 o2 sensor

United States

#3 Jun 2, 2007
I have 2 CRV's, both 2003's both had o2 sensors fail at 36,000 and 38,000 miles.
Dealer change one under warrenty paid $600 for the second. I have heard a lot of owner complain about this, I think Honda should step up and replace any o2 sensor that fails in under 100,000 miles.
tikboy

New Zealand

#4 Jun 17, 2007
hi,have got 2002 honda crv,im getting 6 km per liter,city driving 90% of the time.is this normal?
Questioning 2002 CRV

Indianapolis, IN

#5 Jul 9, 2007
"hi,have got 2002 honda crv,im getting 6 km per liter,city driving 90% of the time.is this normal?"

While I don't know whether or not the Kiwi CRV's are the same as those over here in the US, I cannot imagine they'd be that different. I believe we average about 25-28 mpg in most driving situations, so 6km/l sounds fairly low (using crude math) compared to what we're getting.
Kerry

Puyallup, WA

#6 Jan 12, 2008
My wife's 2002 CRV engine light has been on. Honda said the primary 02 sensor has failed, needs replaced. They charged $109 to just check it out, probably took them 5 minutes with some diagnostic tool. Part cost is something like $275, plus another $80 to replace it. Is this something the 'average Joe' can replace, and if so, is there a way to re-set the dash light without some expensive extra tool?
Questioning 2002 CRV

Pryor, OK

#7 Jan 14, 2008
Kerry wrote:
My wife's 2002 CRV engine light has been on. Honda said the primary 02 sensor has failed, needs replaced. They charged $109 to just check it out, probably took them 5 minutes with some diagnostic tool. Part cost is something like $275, plus another $80 to replace it. Is this something the 'average Joe' can replace, and if so, is there a way to re-set the dash light without some expensive extra tool?
Just to re-state this, I'm not in any way a mechanic, but this appears to be something quite common with Honda's. My brother has an accord and his went out with about 50,000 miles. he did replace it himself. He took the car to AutoZone and bought the part and manual. It was a fairly easy thing to do (neither of us are mechanically gifted). If you take it to AutoZone, they'll hook the car up to the diagnostic, tell you what needs to be fixed, order the part, and turn the dash light off once it's fixed.
Lewbone

Dallas, TX

#8 Jan 25, 2008
Are there any signs of a bad O 2 sensor??

Thanks,
Questioning 2002 CRV

Pryor, OK

#9 Jan 31, 2008
Lewbone wrote:
Are there any signs of a bad O 2 sensor??
Thanks,
Other than the check engine light coming on, or, to a lesser extent, a change in the smell of your exhaust perhaps, I'm not sure there are any.

But as indicated previously, if you have a Honda with a fair number of miles, you might want to be prepared for it. If it does go out, you probably have two sensors, so you'll be ok for a while, but the back-up probably isn't too far behind.
Henry8

Schaumburg, IL

#10 Jul 21, 2008
Oxygen sensor went at 38,700 on my 2004 Honda CRV. Cost to replace it $800.00+++. Before that it was the rear differential fluid that needed to be flushed. What's next my AC?? My previous car, a Camry gave me none of these problems. Honda are you listening??
jofawan

Gaithersburg, MD

#11 Oct 21, 2008
My engine light came on and I did extensive research online -- AutoZone will lend you the diagnostic computer that you plug in under the dash. If the o2 sensors are bad, you will get codes 1166 and 1167. DO NOT use bosch replacements or universal parts -- must be Denso.

I soaked the connection to the cat.conv with Liq.Wrnch, then tap-tapped it pretty well, and finally loosened the o2 sensor with an adjustable wrench and replace it. Dealers will charge a ton for this; I found one on Amazon for $150 -- most are around $200. I went back to AutoZone, used the diagnostic tool to erase the codes, went back through inspection passing, with no engine light on. Fortunately I had the time do look up this problem exetensively.
Chrris

District Heights, MD

#12 Nov 11, 2008
Lewbone wrote:
Are there any signs of a bad O 2 sensor??
Thanks,
Yeah, if the sensor goes completely the car will hesitate when you hit the gas. Meaning it won't go for a couple of seconds. The car will stall at idle sometimes, and sometimes just stall completely even at throttle. When these sensors go bad, generally the engine gets oxygen starved, so all the gas doesn't get burned in the cylinder, Now you start dumping gas into your cat converters and it can ignite inside the cat burning it out. So i would suggest, if you have a sensor bad, don't take your car to a dealer, they will almost always rip you off. Often telling you, you need to change out the cat when its not necessary. find a mechanic off the beaten path that says he'll do the job for about $600-750, for 2 sensors. If they do that (it may range depending on the sensor, but generally labor per sensor should be no more than $100). You should probably change both the front ones in both banks if you have two, because of how much gas is being dumped into the system and if one fails the other probably isn't far behind. The rear sensors aren't as critical and don't seem to go bad as fast.
Sarah

Cincinnati, OH

#13 Dec 1, 2008
I have an '04 CRV and had to replace the front O2 sensor. I took it to the dealer and it cost me around $400 to replace it. The car had about 76,000 miles on it. It sounds like there's a serious problem with these on CRVs. They're failing early in the life of the car.
I asked the service mgr if it was common for the sensor to go out so soon and he said they see some but not that many. I buy Hondas because they're reliable but this stinks. I'm contacting Honda about it.
NCCRV

Durham, NC

#14 Jan 2, 2009
Honda buddy wrote:
Hi
I hope I can tap your brains a little. I have a 2002 CRV. The engine light came on and we took it to the dealer who said I had 2 oxygen sensors bad. One going into the catalytic converter and the other going out. I also was told that the catalytic converter would have to be replaced because when the sensors were replaced it would damage it. They replaced the converter under warranty but the sensor replacement cost me $900. I have 72000 miles. what I would like to know is this normal to have two sensors go bad at the same time or did the converter damage them. If so should they have been covered under warranty? I swallowed hard and payed the price but is this something that will happen again. Thanks for your feed back.
I started having problems with my 02 CRV at less than 500 miles. The CEL came on and the dealer "reprogrammed the ECU according to service bulletin." At 50,000 miles, the CEL came on again. I took it to the dealer again and they replaced the O2 sensor due to codes 1166 and 1167. The cost in 2005 was $256 parts,$117 labor. Today (1/2/09), when I got in the car, the CEL light is on AGAIN! Granted, I'm at 102,000 miles now--but there HAS to be a problem with this engine/exhaust--whatever it is, because I can see no reason to have to replace the sensor more often than the freaking tires!

Anyone else smell a rat?
JB in Maryland

Silver Spring, MD

#15 Jan 10, 2009
We have 2 hondas - a 99 Accord, and a 02 CRV. Within 2 weeks of each other the engine lights came on - after taking to the dealer to hook up to the computer to diagnose - it was the O2 sensors in both cars. At the time, the dealership said they did not have parts in stock - so I asked does another Honda dealer have - answer was no they are backordered NATIONWIDE. Huh???? Then our friends who have a Toyota had the same problem. So I do not think it unique to Hondas - I think that it had something to do with the whole Ethanol being added to gas thingee.

I do find it interesting though---so many people had this SAME issue!
Jigx

Bronx, NY

#16 Mar 2, 2009
Got 2000 honda crv- 93k miles. Engine Light came off. Took to the local auto shop in Jersey City,NJ. Checked with Diagnostic tool and said its the Oxygen Sensor to be replaced and charged $350 to replace.Then again in a day, the engine light came off . Did the diagnostic again.He reseted the codes and said that the rear oxygen sensor might have gone bad too. He mentioned to watch for few days and the engine light comes off, then need to replace the rear one. As expected, the engine light came off now. I got to take it to the shop again to replace the rear one. Do you guys know how much they would charge again. What brand sensor should i use?
twl0220

Youngsville, LA

#17 Apr 19, 2009
denso.com

02 sensor
before 176.91
After 181.09
shipping ups ground 13.76
TOTAL 371.76

If you can change them yourself.
mabell

Franklin Square, NY

#18 Jun 14, 2009
my check engine light came on the other day. It was my O2 sensor.I changed it and reset the light. 3 days later my light came back on.The computer says its the O2 sensor again. Is it possible the sensor is bad or is there another problem?
Robert

Jacksonville, FL

#19 Jun 20, 2009
ALL CARS SUV TRUCKS SOLD IN THE USA from 1996 has to have a OB2 connector for reading the codes on the computer. Yes, and GM,Honda etc all have there great all seeing computer readers. What most of you dont Know is WALMART SELLS ONE FOR ABOUT $98..
So you pay them say $100 to read yours and fix nothing. just because it reads lets say code P1166
Honda code for bank 1 sensor air fuel mix or P1167
O2 bank 2 does not mean that sensor is bad. It maybe just has bad connection, bad wire. The point is they dont no whats bad without testing with and OHM Meter or like most do JUST REPLACE IT. How many times u ask for the est. cost they got this really great print out. Parts $$$ labor $$ tax. YEAH Right, they replace it clear the codes , turn the light off. BOOM light back on.
Robert

Jacksonville, FL

#20 Jun 20, 2009
do code read P1166 again. "Well you got another sensor there its bad 2". No ITS not the other one has a differant code. So here u are paying for the 1st part <they darn sure arnt going to test it and put it back no no no! This is the way it works.

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