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Kevin6q

Williamstown, VT

#1 Aug 30, 2010
My 09 CR-V has cupping on the inside edge of the tires. The camber is off. As I understand it, the camber is not adjustable. Any ideas or aftermarket parts to make this adjustable so I don't go through tires so fast? The dealership claims they have never heard of this issue on any CR-V. Thanks, Kevin

Since: Sep 10

Waterloo, Canada

#2 Sep 26, 2010
I just had the same problem with my 2005 CR-V. The place told me I needed a camber kit to put adjustable arms on it. My tires actually sat slanted it was so bad. Had the kit put on so now the rear is able to be aligned just like the front. It should fix the problem just tell them u need a camber kit.
WHgiveahec

United States

#3 Mar 23, 2011
I've had the same problem with my 1998 CRV, I've had to replace trailing arm bushings as well. This causes car to fish tale back and forth. They make a shim kit which is cheaper than the camber adjustment arms, if it off less than 2 degrees you can get the shim kit which will take care of it. But if its over 2 degrees you need adjustable camber arms. Shim kits are about $20 a side and Arms are about $65-$85 per side. Try JC Whitney, Ebay, http://www.jcwhitney.com/camber-kits/honda-cr...
WHgiveahec

United States

#4 Mar 23, 2011
Oh and dealership Mechanic needs to go back to school.... Any experianced Mechanic would have told you how to get it fixed, instead telling you,,, "I've never heard of that." ???????? Make me wonder how any thing gets fixed right these days. Here's a couple more links for those who are price checking...

http://www.racinglab.com/spc-camber-kit-honda...

http://www.iapdirect.com/product.php...

http://www.autocarparts.com/c_Honda_CR-~-V_c_...
Wood - VA

Charlottesville, VA

#5 Mar 1, 2012
I have 2010 Honda CRV -purchased new and tires lasted only 26,000. Had 4 tires installed today and 4 wheel alignment. The tire dealer told me that the Rear Camber adj is barely in Specs and I would need to rotate the tires every 5,000 miles and need to have a Camber Kit installed. Est. price $410. If installed you would get a better alignment which would last longer. I have never been satified with the 2010, but loved my 2004. I don't think I will purchase another Honda. I will discuss this with the Honda dealer!!!
Pichoni

St. John's, Canada

#6 Mar 22, 2012
Hi Folks, I hope I will get some information and help here. I have a Honda CR-V 2005 AWD with 130,000 kms on it.All the four tires are new and in good condition as viewed by my mechanic yesterday and by costco, all four tires were changed by Costco of the exact size as mentioned in vehicle manual and are balanced till now. There is one issue that I am working on but so far no success. The rear right wheel is cambered positive, which means it is bending inside from the upper side and bent outside from bottom side, any one can see it when driving at my back. I took it to mechanics but not getting the right answer. Day before yesterday on my mechanic's advice I took it to the Goodyear tires alignment place where they aligned the three wheels except not much of the fourth wheel which is rear right wheel (Passenger side rear wheel) but told me the rear springs are bit sagging and it is due to this reason that my vehicle has a positive camber and is pulling to the right. After the alignment when I took it on the road there is about 5% improvement but still pulling to the right. He says that it is not due to the control arm in the rear wheel, it is fixed so camber can not be calibrated and may not be bent but I am still confused whether the rear springs could be the issue, if I replace them will it fix the camber.

If any body can comment his experience, it will be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
liner

Brooklyn, NY

#7 Mar 22, 2012
Pichoni wrote:
Hi Folks, I hope I will get some information and help here. I have a Honda CR-V 2005 AWD with 130,000 kms on it.All the four tires are new and in good condition as viewed by my mechanic yesterday and by costco, all four tires were changed by Costco of the exact size as mentioned in vehicle manual and are balanced till now. There is one issue that I am working on but so far no success. The rear right wheel is cambered positive, which means it is bending inside from the upper side and bent outside from bottom side, any one can see it when driving at my back. I took it to mechanics but not getting the right answer. Day before yesterday on my mechanic's advice I took it to the Goodyear tires alignment place where they aligned the three wheels except not much of the fourth wheel which is rear right wheel (Passenger side rear wheel) but told me the rear springs are bit sagging and it is due to this reason that my vehicle has a positive camber and is pulling to the right. After the alignment when I took it on the road there is about 5% improvement but still pulling to the right. He says that it is not due to the control arm in the rear wheel, it is fixed so camber can not be calibrated and may not be bent but I am still confused whether the rear springs could be the issue, if I replace them will it fix the camber.
If any body can comment his experience, it will be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Yes, a sagging spring could cause alignment issues. A sagging spring can also be measured via ride height, so you shouldn't have to guess at it. It's true camber is not adjustable in the rear, but that certainly doesn't mean that it couldn't be bent, causing your alignment issue. Could have hit a pothole, curb etc. Good luck to you. Let us know how you make out.
Muhammad Qureshi

St. John's, Canada

#8 Aug 9, 2012
liner wrote:
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Yes, a sagging spring could cause alignment issues. A sagging spring can also be measured via ride height, so you shouldn't have to guess at it. It's true camber is not adjustable in the rear, but that certainly doesn't mean that it couldn't be bent, causing your alignment issue. Could have hit a pothole, curb etc. Good luck to you. Let us know how you make out.
Thanks for your reply but what is your suggestion, I did not get the extract of your answer, do you think Sagging coil springs will resolve the issue of negative camber.
liner

Brooklyn, NY

#9 Aug 9, 2012
Muhammad Qureshi wrote:
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Thanks for your reply but what is your suggestion, I did not get the extract of your answer, do you think Sagging coil springs will resolve the issue of negative camber.
When offering an opinion on the web, I never say "will". As I did say, it could be the cause, as well as bent or worn control arms etc. Sagging springs can be found by correctly and carefully measuring ride height at each corner.
Bad Bolognese

Lancaster, NY

#10 Aug 27, 2012
The tires on our 2010 CRV only lasted 20,000. They were Continentals. And we need an alignment. Rear left toe is out.
Muhammad Qureshi

St. John's, Canada

#11 Aug 27, 2012
Kevin6q wrote:
My 09 CR-V has cupping on the inside edge of the tires. The camber is off. As I understand it, the camber is not adjustable. Any ideas or aftermarket parts to make this adjustable so I don't go through tires so fast? The dealership claims they have never heard of this issue on any CR-V. Thanks, Kevin
I never ever understood how the hell Dealership never heard of this issue since so many years, I personally took my vehicle to Honda dealership and they told me weird stuff of about $1500 which does not make any sense. The forums are full of this stupid error Honda is committing again and again. I am going to work on my Honda with coil springs, rear end arms and then will post the result as soon as possible so that others should benefit of this experience.
Thanks.
Muhammad Qureshi

St. John's, Canada

#12 Aug 27, 2012
liner wrote:
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When offering an opinion on the web, I never say "will". As I did say, it could be the cause, as well as bent or worn control arms etc. Sagging springs can be found by correctly and carefully measuring ride height at each corner.
Thanks for sharing you comments, can you please tell me how to measure the height for the sagging coil springs, what is the original height and where to find it, it is my first time to trying to understand.
Thanks.
liner

Brooklyn, NY

#13 Aug 27, 2012
Muhammad Qureshi wrote:
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Thanks for sharing you comments, can you please tell me how to measure the height for the sagging coil springs, what is the original height and where to find it, it is my first time to trying to understand.
Thanks.
You would need a factory shop manual to find the ride height specifications and exactly where to measure it. I would suggest going either to a local body or alignment shop and ask for the specs. Or better yet, ask them to measure it and pay them a couple of bucks. Absent that, find a level driveway or parking lot, stand a good distance behind the car and look for the car sitting lower on one side than the other.
Muhammad Qureshi

St. John's, Canada

#14 Aug 27, 2012
liner wrote:
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You would need a factory shop manual to find the ride height specifications and exactly where to measure it. I would suggest going either to a local body or alignment shop and ask for the specs. Or better yet, ask them to measure it and pay them a couple of bucks. Absent that, find a level driveway or parking lot, stand a good distance behind the car and look for the car sitting lower on one side than the other.
Thanks a lot for your quick reply.
HumanSpirit

Hampton, FL

#15 Jun 9, 2013
2009 Honda Civic and 2011 Honda that I own had the same problem with cupping and loud noises in rear. Dealership failed to acknowledge problem.

I replaced the tires on the rear of the Civic that cupped shortly thereafter at my expense (elsewhere other then the dealership ) The realignment was at my expense from the dealer.

Also

The paint went bad on the civic and was never repaired properly. Two months loss on vehicle use and the car looks like it is a old car when it was only two years old. Rental car was limited

The 2011 CRV has tire problems. Moved the rear tires 14000 miles to front trouble moved with tire exchange. Honda wont align rear wheels at their cost and wants to sell tires for more profit.

Also

Transmission squeaks when first starting . Honda stated it was a known problem

Recommendation: Get rid of the Honda cars with problems and read before purchasing any other vehicle
Shade Tree Mechanic

Chesapeake, OH

#16 Sep 24, 2013
2009 Honda CRV Tire cupping/scalloping.
Have also been told that tires should be rotated every 5-6K miles (whenever you change your oil). My comment is that YES this will make a set of tires wear longer due to the fact that front and rear tires take turns with the problem. After reading many posts etc. it seems to me to definitely be a design problem, whether geometry or premature wear of suspension parts. I hate to tinker with suspension parts as I would not want to fix one problem only to create another. Seems to be another case of a manufacturer failing to take responsibility for failure to properly test their design. Surely this is not just a Honda problem! or is it? If other manufacturers are not having this issue then the answer is obvious. Short term solutions are not solutions at all! Just my 2 cents worth.
Muhammad Qureshi

St. John's, Canada

#17 Sep 24, 2013
Dear folks and members here, I thank you all for your valuable advices based on your experiences individually. My Honda CR-V 2005 whose rear spring coils were changed along with the adjustable rear end arms, it ran good for sometime like may be about 500-600 kms and now again the vehicle is pulling to the right side, I spent around $600 on it, the wheels are also cuping. The most funny thing is when you talk to Honda Dealers, they assume to be so innocent of this defect, LOL, I wonder if they live in the same world but otherwise the way they deny is they are living on Mars.
RANDY W

Edmonton, Canada

#18 May 13, 2014
liner wrote:
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When offering an opinion on the web, I never say "will". As I did say, it could be the cause, as well as bent or worn control arms etc. Sagging springs can be found by correctly and carefully measuring ride height at each corner.
HI I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE,IM A 30 YEAR TECH AND CURRENTLY SHOP FORMAN OF LARGE ALIGNMENT SHOP. YES THE CAMBER ARMS WILL ABSOLUTLY FIX ANY CAMBER PROBLEMS AND WILL ALWAYS BE THERE FOR FUTURE ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED.NOW THE REASON THE CAMBER IS OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE COULD BE SAGGED REAR SPRINGS AND USUALLY IS,PUTTING THE SPRINGS IN COULD GET IT CLOSER TO SPEC OR IN SPEC. BUT THE ADJUSTABLE ARMS MAY STILL NEED TO BE INSTALLED TO ALLOW FOR THAT PERFECT ADJUSTMENT.SO IF THE VEHICLE IS UNDER WARRANTY HONDA RECOMMENDS REPLACING THE DEFECTIVE SPRING. IF NOT UNDER WARRANTY HOW MANY SETS OF SPRINGS DO U WANT TO REPLACE TO KEEP YOUR CAMBER IN SPEC VERSES INSTALLING THE ARMS ONCE.SAGGING SPRINGS IS A REAL COMMON PROBLEM ON CRVS.I WOULD RECOMMEND DOING THE ARMS NO MATTER WHAT, SAGGED SPRINGS OR NOT.
liner

Brooklyn, NY

#19 May 14, 2014
RANDY W wrote:
<quoted text> HI I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE,IM A 30 YEAR TECH AND CURRENTLY SHOP FORMAN OF LARGE ALIGNMENT SHOP. YES THE CAMBER ARMS WILL ABSOLUTLY FIX ANY CAMBER PROBLEMS AND WILL ALWAYS BE THERE FOR FUTURE ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED.NOW THE REASON THE CAMBER IS OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE COULD BE SAGGED REAR SPRINGS AND USUALLY IS,PUTTING THE SPRINGS IN COULD GET IT CLOSER TO SPEC OR IN SPEC. BUT THE ADJUSTABLE ARMS MAY STILL NEED TO BE INSTALLED TO ALLOW FOR THAT PERFECT ADJUSTMENT.SO IF THE VEHICLE IS UNDER WARRANTY HONDA RECOMMENDS REPLACING THE DEFECTIVE SPRING. IF NOT UNDER WARRANTY HOW MANY SETS OF SPRINGS DO U WANT TO REPLACE TO KEEP YOUR CAMBER IN SPEC VERSES INSTALLING THE ARMS ONCE.SAGGING SPRINGS IS A REAL COMMON PROBLEM ON CRVS.I WOULD RECOMMEND DOING THE ARMS NO MATTER WHAT, SAGGED SPRINGS OR NOT.
Good points. Thanks for the info.
hsteacher1

Oakland, CA

#20 Nov 9, 2014
I had bad tire wear on the rear of my 1998 manual CRV. And you could see the rear camber was way off. I put a camber kit on both sides and fixed the problem. Driving around, I started noticing just how many CRVs had rear camber problems. Yet the dealer I spoke with had never heard of the problem, or pretended he didn't. He said there is nothing published from Honda on the issue. It's best just to get the kit, go to a reliable alignment shop, have them install it, stop thinking about it and get on with your life.

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