Buyers reject Chevrolet Volt's cost; Nissan Leaf's looks

Jan 28, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: USA Today

Despite their small share of total vehicle sales, the Chevrolet Volt, Nissan Leaf and Toyota Prius garner a lot of attention from new-car shoppers, according to J.D. Power and Associates' 2012 Avoider Study, which loloked at the reason that people didn't buy a particular model.

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The problem with the volt is its too expensive. You are much better off buying a hybrid, not a plug in hybrid, than a volt. A prius compact is around 19000, about half the price of a volt, and the prius doesn't catch on fire either. And the Civic Insight runs around 18000, but you'd be better of with the prius.
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Tom Loy wrote:
The problem with the volt is its too expensive. You are much better off buying a hybrid, not a plug in hybrid, than a volt. A prius compact is around 19000, about half the price of a volt, and the prius doesn't catch on fire either. And the Civic Insight runs around 18000, but you'd be better of with the prius.
I agree with your contention that the Volt's price is the major factor in its weak sales.
The Volt's battery fire issue in my opinion is just a media overhyped smear campaign blown way out of proportion much like the SUA issue with Toyota
That said, the Volt (along with similar offerings from other carmakers)is certainly the wave of the future---the near future at least.
Demand for battery powered vehicles is on the increase, and I'm sure GM will find ways to get the Volt's price down to a more competitive level.
Over the longer term however, I firmly believe we'll see breakthroughs in alternate power sources---fuel cell technology is the most likely probability.
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Proud Canadian wrote:
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I agree with your contention that the Volt's price is the major factor in its weak sales.
The Volt's battery fire issue in my opinion is just a media overhyped smear campaign blown way out of proportion much like the SUA issue with Toyota
That said, the Volt (along with similar offerings from other carmakers)is certainly the wave of the future---the near future at least.
Demand for battery powered vehicles is on the increase, and I'm sure GM will find ways to get the Volt's price down to a more competitive level.
Over the longer term however, I firmly believe we'll see breakthroughs in alternate power sources---fuel cell technology is the most likely probability.
Agreed, although I think fuel cell tech is a ways down the road yet.

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Proud Canadian wrote:
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I agree with your contention that the Volt's price is the major factor in its weak sales.
The Volt's battery fire issue in my opinion is just a media overhyped smear campaign blown way out of proportion much like the SUA issue with Toyota
That said, the Volt (along with similar offerings from other carmakers)is certainly the wave of the future---the near future at least.
Demand for battery powered vehicles is on the increase, and I'm sure GM will find ways to get the Volt's price down to a more competitive level.
Over the longer term however, I firmly believe we'll see breakthroughs in alternate power sources---fuel cell technology is the most likely probability.
If GM had done what it said it was going to do, and only used the engine to recharge the batteries, who knows what kind of mileage the volt would get. Batteries are the future, but until they get lighter and cheaper, totally electric vehicles are not practical.
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Tom Loy wrote:
The problem with the volt is its too expensive. You are much better off buying a hybrid, not a plug in hybrid, than a volt. A prius compact is around 19000, about half the price of a volt, and the prius doesn't catch on fire either. And the Civic Insight runs around 18000, but you'd be better of with the prius.
The Prius is just a Fugly Car,. enough said.

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The Prius is just a Fugly Car,. enough said.
And the Prius outsells the Volt by.... a lot. So apparently most of the car buying public is more concerned with performance than looks.
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The Prius is just a Fugly Car,. enough said.
Hopefully---that's "Enough Said"!
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Tom Loy wrote:
The problem with the volt is its too expensive. You are much better off buying a hybrid, not a plug in hybrid, than a volt. A prius compact is around 19000, about half the price of a volt, and the prius doesn't catch on fire either. And the Civic Insight runs around 18000, but you'd be better of with the prius.
The Prius could experience the same kind of fire that the Volt did since it uses the same type of battery. Keep in mind the Volt fire occurred 3 weeks after the crash and was due to a failure on the part of the technicians to drain the battery (just like removing gasoline from a crashed vehicle).
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George wrote:
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The Prius could experience the same kind of fire that the Volt did since it uses the same type of battery. Keep in mind the Volt fire occurred 3 weeks after the crash and was due to a failure on the part of the technicians to drain the battery (just like removing gasoline from a crashed vehicle).
I agree that the Volt fire issue was just a red herring, not unlike the Toyota "runaway car" issue. The Volt will just have to be judged on it's merits by the car buying public as any other car. I still say it's a good car with impressive technology, just too expensive.
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Liner, if you read the Consumer Report article where they bought and real life tested a Volt, you might change your mind. I believe that the buying public has already spoken by the fact that the Volt is way behind projected sales and the factory is now shutting down for five weeks because of lack of demand.
Didn't read the CR article,(and I'm a subscriber! Just too backed up on my reading). I still think if this was a 20K car, it would sell.
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Chevy / GM knows the Volt is a white elephant, and will never achieve any substantial sales numbers. If they had any evidence the Volt could sell they'd drop the price and make it up on volume.
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The prius and leaf just don't meet chevy's standard in the volt it looks better has better design. The price is high to own and to purchase, to be a competiton to be a competetor i have seen 2 volts in akron, ohio and over a hundred priuses since there launce the prius remains practical it seems. But chevy will come on top as soon as they lower the price and has a stronger battery. Id drive a volt before a prius and wouldnt drive a leaf.
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The volt in its first year outsold 6 years of Honda Insight Production (2000-2006). Even the first Gen Prius sales were slow. The Honda Insight was the best in fuel Efficiency but if you drive less than 40 miles a day then the volt easily wins. We have yet to use any gas since we drove our volt home.
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Voice of Reality wrote:
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Rick, a couple of points to consider, when you save $20,000 in gas get back with me, since my Elantra gets 35 MPG per gallon and cost a little less than 20K it will take you approx 175 thousand miles to make up that difference at $4.00 a gallon gas. This figures up to be about 4,375 total forty mile trips, HOWEVER, since Consumer Report has already stated that in their on road test the Volt gets between 21 and 29 miles to the charge with the heater going we must assume that the use of air conditioning would mean about the same. So, when your 20 to 25 year old Volt has saved enough money to be equal to my brand new Elantra we will have this conversation once again.
Please do not get into supposed quality as I also have a 2002 Elantra GT that I got from my son when he bought his new Scion, it has 153,000 miles and was not very well maintained and still has not had any mechanical issues other than replacing the belt once.
Owners are reporting 100-120 mpg in the Volt. An Elantra can't touch those numbers.
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<quoted text>Owners are reporting 100-120 mpg in the Volt. An Elantra can't touch those numbers.
Very true. The Volt is a technological tour de force in the auto industry. Comparing it to any conventional car is not worthy of its technology, especially a Hyundai.
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Yes but your elantra is im guessing 12 to 14 grand more then the volt, so "if" you have the money for a good ev, you have a good deal however think about the electric bill you plug the car into your wall, add that to a comparison of gas to your elantra and it will come out cheaper then what your paying. And comparing a hyndaui to a scion is not the same its hyndaui not a chevy or scion. I had a blazer 175,000 my moms never replaced a belt or anything mechanical, I dont know what hyndauis new models are like but just to inform you there past models were total garbage but i know there new stuffs a little better.
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<quoted text>Owners are reporting 100-120 mpg in the Volt. An Elantra can't touch those numbers.
LOL..........Humvee owners are reporting 50-60 MPG.
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Per Kiplinger Investment Group:

"Perhaps the biggest surprise is that although the Volt and Leaf have stratospheric sticker prices -- nearly double those of the gas-engine Chevrolet Cruze LTZ and Nissan Versa S hatchback -- both have pretty low five-year ownership costs. The Volt’s costs come within $1,600 of the Cruze’s and the Leaf is only $800 more than the Versa over five years.(Run your own comparisons of these models and many more.)"

These calculations do not include the tax credit.

I paid $31,800 for my Volt. I've saved $1,600 in gas (charging costs included) in 15 months. In 5 years, my cost will be $25,000. A like optioned Accord is about $24,000. Add a minimum of $1,000 per year for gas. That Accord costs $29,000.

My brakes will last 150,000 because the Volt doesn't use the pads to stop the car down to 3 mph. I will change my oil every 2 years. There is no transmission to service. About 5 moving parts in the E motor.

My charging costs equate to 2.7 cents per mile. I am very fortunate to live in a city with low power rates (average 9.5 cents per kwh). That cost is averaged out for driving all year round.

I average 40 miles per charge. 47 summer, 37 winter. At $2.70 for a gallon of gas, that equates to 100 mpg.

I have purchased 6 gallons of gas in 15 months.

I owned two beautiful Cadillac's before I owned this car. I wouldn't trade this car for both of those Caddy's. I would buy again in a heartbeat, even without the tax credit.

My next car? Cadillac ELR. Only because it has the Volt technology.

Read more at http://www.kiplinger.com/article/cars/T009-C0...
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My bad. The tax credit was factored in in this article. They refer to the Vincentric group that crunched the numbers. Vincentric named the Volt "Best Value In America".

I was thinking about another article by Kiplinger that compared cars with the same options as the Volt. Those cars cost about $5k -$7k more than the cars used in this article.

In other words, you get what you pay for.

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