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Pretty soon there will be no "big three" which is actually a misnomer already.
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Even though gas is going up, people are not buying fuel efficient cars right now because everyone is financially struggling. I would think that all areas of auto sales are down.
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Keep buying your Toyota's and Honda's you idiots. I would think that you would want to be loyal to your own country.
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Funny how all the conservatives were pushing the big gas-guzzling SUV's... and they still are, despite the fact that nobody is buying them... kinda like the inept or corrupt policies the conservative politicians keep trying to shove down our throats... despite eight years of failure and proving that they don't work...
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Duke wrote: Keep buying your Toyota's and Honda's you idiots. I would think that you would want to be loyal to your own country. What a buffoon! Buying an American made car makes you a 'loyal' American?!? You might want to check all the stuff you buy from Target, Wal-Mart, Cub, Rainbow, Macy's, Herbergers, Sears, etc... because MOST of it isn't made in the USA. So, I guess you're just another GOP Traitor to America, right?(How come zipperheads like this keep cropping up?)
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This has happened several times in the last 30 years. The american auto makers place all of their eggs in the large vehicle market, and when there is an uptick in gas prices, they are financially devastated. Then everybody wrings their hands like it was unpredictable, and when gas prices go down, they go back to the gas hogs. Between a bad product mix and expensive union contracts and expensive retiree benefits, the american auto makers face insurmountable obstacles as their continued shrinking demonstrates.
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Tase me and I will sue
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GOP Traitors wrote: Funny how all the conservatives were pushing the big gas-guzzling SUV's... and they still are, despite the fact that nobody is buying them... kinda like the inept or corrupt policies the conservative politicians keep trying to shove down our throats... despite eight years of failure and proving that they don't work... What are you talking about?
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GOP Traitors wrote: Funny how all the conservatives were pushing the big gas-guzzling SUV's... and they still are, despite the fact that nobody is buying them... kinda like the inept or corrupt policies the conservative politicians keep trying to shove down our throats... despite eight years of failure and proving that they don't work... What the h#*l are you talking about? What does that have to do with the article? How are conservatives pushing SUV's? I pity you, you idiot.
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You are a Loser wrote: <quoted text>
What a buffoon! Buying an American made car makes you a 'loyal' American?!? You might want to check all the stuff you buy from Target, Wal-Mart, Cub, Rainbow, Macy's, Herbergers, Sears, etc... because MOST of it isn't made in the USA. So, I guess you're just another GOP Traitor to America, right?(How come zipperheads like this keep cropping up?) Be careful. I am more educated than you. More sucessful and fun to be around - respect our country and others, and understand global trade. And I am conservative. I vote GOP. Way to thoughtlessly spout off.
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Tase me and I will sue
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P T Bull wrote: This has happened several times in the last 30 years. The american auto makers place all of their eggs in the large vehicle market, and when there is an uptick in gas prices, they are financially devastated. Then everybody wrings their hands like it was unpredictable, and when gas prices go down, they go back to the gas hogs.
Between a bad product mix and expensive union contracts and expensive retiree benefits, the american auto makers face insurmountable obstacles as their continued shrinking demonstrates. You get it. You are great.
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Putting gas prices aside, the Ranger was doomed anyway. The current Ranger is 11+ years old, is extremely outdated, and has a horrible choice of powertrain options. Its sales are down because there are, without question, better products out there for people looking for small pickups.
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These guys should have known this was going to happen. I shed not one tear for the sales drop. They brought the entire gas crisis on themselves by pumping out the big trucks for over a decade and setting the cafe standards backward as well as gas milage! It's like feeling sorry for a smoker who knew he'd get cancer who had read all the reports and who'd been warned time and again not to smoke.
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I'm surprised Ford sold THAT many in June. My husband has been looking for a black Ranger for at least 4 months. His only stipulations are a decent looking interior (no bright red or white), extended cab and electric locks and windows. We live in central Kentucky and have looked all over central Kentucky, and in Cincinnati. We've never seen more than two new rangers on any lot, but usually see none. All we see are the real big gas guzzler trucks by the dozens.
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I don't know, tase. There's a huge Toyota car manufacturing plant just north of Lexington and they pay fantastic wages and have great benefits. Probably as good as the unions if not better. But you never seem to hear Toyota having the same problems as Ford and GM.
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chris wrote: I don't know, tase. There's a huge Toyota car manufacturing plant just north of Lexington and they pay fantastic wages and have great benefits. Probably as good as the unions if not better. But you never seem to hear Toyota having the same problems as Ford and GM. Since he is such a big, powerful, and successful conservative, maybe he can explain to me why it's better to buy a car from a car headquartered in the US over one that is actually made in the US. I'd think that only one of those situations actually provides a sizable number of jobs to Americans. I drive a Chrysler and it was made in Canada, and probably of Chinese parts anyhow. Real American right there. I've never gotten a good explaination for why the place of incorporation matters. Both Toyota and Honda are traded on New York stock markets. Is it an issue of corporate income taxes? How does that compare to local real estate taxes and payroll taxes for the employees?
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Corey wrote: <quoted text>
Since he is such a big, powerful, and successful conservative, maybe he can explain to me why it's better to buy a car from a car headquartered in the US over one that is actually made in the US. I'd think that only one of those situations actually provides a sizable number of jobs to Americans. I drive a Chrysler and it was made in Canada, and probably of Chinese parts anyhow. Real American right there. I've never gotten a good explaination for why the place of incorporation matters. Both Toyota and Honda are traded on New York stock markets. Is it an issue of corporate income taxes? How does that compare to local real estate taxes and payroll taxes for the employees? The real problem with the Big Three of automakers is that each car has an amount that goes into each car to pay for benefits for retired autoworkers. Newer car plants, like Toyota and Honda, that are built here do not have these "legacy" anchors around their necks. If each car has a pre-price basic cost of $7,000 to $15,000 for retirees it is hard to compete with those that don't. You can thank the unions and the automakers of America for their current plight. You retire at 50, full benefits and salary until you die. The Japanese don't seem to get caught in these financial traps. And you know, they make good cars that last and they are built in the USA. PS. In these uncertain times for cars/gas etc. It has always been a smart move to do what others won't do, buy big. When we start to drill for our own oil, and we will, gas comes down, cars get bigger again and you would have a real nice one in your garage! If you can, buy American, our future depends on it. Which equates to "look at the label", if it says China on it, look for the US flag and buy here.
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Matt
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I drive a Ford Ranger and a Toyota Avalon. Both are made in the United States, one of them even in my own city. Is that not loyal enough for Duke?
GM, Ford and Chrysler have not paid sufficient attention to more-efficient vehicles in recent years even though it was obvious that energy prices would continue to rise. I wish they built more products I'd be interested in buying. I wish they'd spent more on engineering and manufacturing prowess instead of grinding their suppliers down on price and cheapening their products. But they haven't, and in a competitive marketplace they are paying the price.
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GOP Traitors wrote: Funny how all the conservatives were pushing the big gas-guzzling SUV's... and they still are, despite the fact that nobody is buying them... kinda like the inept or corrupt policies the conservative politicians keep trying to shove down our throats... despite eight years of failure and proving that they don't work... Remember Jimmy the Nut Carter and his policy. "We will be out of gas by 2000". Well we are not out of gas but we are out of politicians to let us drill. We need it now and we need to quit sending money to the Middle East, period. That is our best interest. However if you are idiot lefty and want to wait until everyone has a wind turbine on their roof and hydrogen for fuel, please do me a favor and put a wind driven beanie on your head so we can easily identify you walking to work. That is if we still have work to go to. As some others have said, you really missed the point. By the way, Clinton wasn't corrupt he just had sex in the Oral Office??? We sure miss his leadership don't we? Duh.
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Republicans and Democrats rejoice! Americans and Minnesotans are losing their jobs!
Can we focus on what's important, protecting people from imagery of nooses?
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GOP Traitors wrote: Funny how all the conservatives were pushing the big gas-guzzling SUV's... and they still are, despite the fact that nobody is buying them... kinda like the inept or corrupt policies the conservative politicians keep trying to shove down our throats... despite eight years of failure and proving that they don't work... When did the GOP ever push SUV's? I think it is more likely that the GOP's position is that people should buy as they like not have some over inflated government official telling them how, what and when to do something!
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