FORD PLANT FACES UNCERTAIN FUTURE: Missouri Lawmakers Work to Keep ...

There are 20 comments on the Fox4KC story from Jun 24, 2010, titled FORD PLANT FACES UNCERTAIN FUTURE: Missouri Lawmakers Work to Keep .... In it, Fox4KC reports that:

Missouri lawmakers are meeting in Jefferson City to consider tax breaks that they hope will bring a new product line to the Ford Claycomo Assembly Plant, tax breaks that could be paid for by cutting pensions for state employees.

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2 Cents Worth

Kansas City, KS

#1 Jun 24, 2010
Sounds like extortion to me. "We're moving the Escape somewhere else, and if you want a product to take it's place, YOU'LL give us what we want, Kansas City, MO." "Stick 'em up".

But HEY,
If Ford is expanding it's Mexico operations, maybe the Americans will jump the same fence South and let the illegals have this third-world country. We can call it "Border Shift".
Brent

Columbia, MO

#2 Jun 24, 2010
We argue that the U.S. people need to buy American made cars, but we are going to put factories in Mexico. Doesn't seem right, i'll stick with my Asian car, least they don't kill Americans and put them in a retired silver mine.
bob

Santa Barbara, CA

#3 Jun 24, 2010
This is a pretty transparent attempt to eliminate retirement benefits for state employees and cloak it as a job creation measure. Ford isn't guaranteeing that they'll keep the plant there, even if this deal goes through.

My prediction?

Ford will move the plant anyway, and the state will use the money for tax cuts for the rich.
rdb730

Blue Springs, MO

#4 Jun 25, 2010
I can't believe this is an issue? Why would we need to tie up legislation to keep well over 5000 in a job in Missouri? Do we have any idea the impact on our economy already? Do we not realize how bad it will worsen if we loose the Ford plant in Claycomo? Wake up people! Fight for our Ford plant and fight for our local economy!
rdb730

Blue Springs, MO

#5 Jun 25, 2010
Brent wrote:
We argue that the U.S. people need to buy American made cars, but we are going to put factories in Mexico. Doesn't seem right, i'll stick with my Asian car, least they don't kill Americans and put them in a retired silver mine.
We are trying to keep AMERICANS is a job in our local economy! What a foolish statement you just made. People like you are running jobs like those at Ford out of state. Do you have any idea of the impact on this community if that plant closes? Nobody thinks about all the other jobs besides just those at the Ford plant. What about all the guys making the seats here in town? Seats that go to Ford only. Those jobs will be gone too. And that is just ONE example. You asian car buying fools are what ruined this country and will continue to ruin. So frustrating that there are so many true Americans trying to fight to get this economy back in place and some comment like this is made which shows you are one of the people who are NOT helping re build this economy!
Please

United States

#6 Jun 25, 2010
If we get to keep the Ford Plant, could they hire competent, non-druggie, non-drunk workers? People who can actually perform the job duties and not whine about every little thing?
Mo State Retiree

Cameron, MO

#7 Jun 25, 2010
Why is one particular group (non-union state employees)being fingered to be responsible for keeping the auto makers going (union employees)? If they want a place to work, let them pay for it themselves! We didn't get a COLA this year because the State couldn't afford it! It doesn't seem our "representatives" are representing the State workers. The state workers should have unionized long ago. If this is the way the State repays us, we need new representation in Jeff City.
union workers wife

Kansas City, MO

#8 Jun 25, 2010
My husband is a ford worker on suv side 10 years now. His father is a retired worker of 41 years. Our family and our 3 children depend on him having this job. Do whatever it takes to keep this plant up and going in Claycomo!
Union

Leawood, KS

#9 Jun 25, 2010
union workers wife wrote:
My husband is a ford worker on suv side 10 years now. His father is a retired worker of 41 years. Our family and our 3 children depend on him having this job. Do whatever it takes to keep this plant up and going in Claycomo!
Kiss it goodbye. McDonalds is hiring though.
2 Cents Worth

Kansas City, KS

#10 Jun 25, 2010
rdb730 wrote:
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We are trying to keep AMERICANS is a job in our local economy! What a foolish statement you just made. People like you are running jobs like those at Ford out of state. Do you have any idea of the impact on this community if that plant closes? Nobody thinks about all the other jobs besides just those at the Ford plant. What about all the guys making the seats here in town? Seats that go to Ford only. Those jobs will be gone too. And that is just ONE example. You asian car buying fools are what ruined this country and will continue to ruin. So frustrating that there are so many true Americans trying to fight to get this economy back in place and some comment like this is made which shows you are one of the people who are NOT helping re build this economy!
This instance happens to be about Ford and the local economy. Do you think for 1 minute the corporations (who care ONLY about their bottom line-NOT the economy) care about employment stats and economies? So many of them have outsourced the work offshore, that the NATIONAL economy is in the toilet. Ever hear of the "domino effect"? They really don't seem capable of understanding that if people in THIS country aren't working, HOW in hell will they purchase their $40 thousand cars, SUV's, etc??? Hell, the US GOV'T can't even comprehend that with high unemployment,(that translates to no disposable income)current tax levels can't be maintained to support their excessive spending and waste - let alone spur any resemblance to an economic recovery.

It's hysterically funny that EVERYONE who has their hands out for your sales and/or tax dollars don't understand it's NOT there on McDonald's or Wal-Mart wages. Has everyone of higher echelons in this freakin' third-world country lost their freakin' minds???

I think they have.
hellohello

Kansas City, MO

#11 Jun 25, 2010
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Justme

Kansas City, MO

#12 Jun 25, 2010
I never understand the anger at the people there, its the big corp that has ice for blood
Their building state of the art plants all over the world
and calling their cars american
The people made the company now the company spits them out
I heard gettlefinger wanted his town to have the escape, what sense did that make
The union is corrupt!!! corrupt corrupt thats where your drinking and drugs are supplied

Support the people no matter what you do, not only would you loose 4,000 good paying jobs, but thousand related, it would hurt this town further
2 Cents Worth

Kansas City, KS

#13 Jun 26, 2010
Brent wrote:
We argue that the U.S. people need to buy American made cars, but we are going to put factories in Mexico. Doesn't seem right, i'll stick with my Asian car, least they don't kill Americans and put them in a retired silver mine.
You'll stick with your asian car, AT LEAST THEY DON'T KILL AMERICANS....?

Dec. 7th, 1941. Pearl Harbor. It's too much to go into in this forum, dropout, but you can catch up on history at the Public Library. WTF do you think got us into WWII???
Dale

Omaha, NE

#14 Jun 28, 2010
rdb730 wrote:
I can't believe this is an issue? Why would we need to tie up legislation to keep well over 5000 in a job in Missouri? Do we have any idea the impact on our economy already? Do we not realize how bad it will worsen if we loose the Ford plant in Claycomo? Wake up people! Fight for our Ford plant and fight for our local economy!
I agree. The number of jobs affected is much higher than the 5000 figure that you said. I work for a company that supplies parts to Ford for the Claycomo plant. Not only will thousands of jobs here be affected, thousands elsewhere in the close midwest will be affected. If these morons in our legislature do not pass this bill or do something to save our jobs here... we need to replace them with someone who is willing to do so.
Maybe these A**holes in the senate and house should have to live off "unemployment" benefits after we vote them out. The congressman for my area ( Jerry Nolte) has been fighting hard to get something done to save the jobs.
Simply put. They work for US, not their agenda. If they ( the Missouri state congressman) dont want to do whats best for us( the constituents) then they can pack their bags and get out of the state!
hellohi

United States

#15 Jun 28, 2010
If they get the tax breaks and they still dont come thru heads should roll
only not good paying american jobs corporate heads should roll if they get this incentive and run...just sayin
womeneat

United States

#16 Jun 29, 2010

Since: Feb 07

Village of Claycomo, MO

#17 Jun 30, 2010
2 Cents Worth wrote:
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You'll stick with your asian car, AT LEAST THEY DON'T KILL AMERICANS....?
Dec. 7th, 1941. Pearl Harbor. It's too much to go into in this forum, dropout, but you can catch up on history at the Public Library. WTF do you think got us into WWII???
Good point, it might be well advised as well to remember that Nakajima Aircraft Company, which later became Fuji Sangyo Co, Ltd later becoming Subaru, manufactured the engines and aircraft that facilitated the December 7th 1941 attack on our Naval base at Pearl Harbor.
Unreal

Jefferson City, MO

#18 Jul 1, 2010
Village Idiot wrote:
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Good point, it might be well advised as well to remember that Nakajima Aircraft Company, which later became Fuji Sangyo Co, Ltd later becoming Subaru, manufactured the engines and aircraft that facilitated the December 7th 1941 attack on our Naval base at Pearl Harbor.
Get over it. The reailty is that if they get the tax break like the one in st.louis did, and then move the plant to mexico like the one in st.louis the people will still loose their jobs, like st.louis did. They should mandate that if you get this tax break the plant cannot downsize or close for at least 5 -10 years.

Since: Feb 07

Village of Claycomo, MO

#19 Jul 1, 2010
Unreal wrote:
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Get over it. The reailty is that if they get the tax break like the one in st.louis did, and then move the plant to mexico like the one in st.louis the people will still loose their jobs, like st.louis did. They should mandate that if you get this tax break the plant cannot downsize or close for at least 5 -10 years.
You can be assured The Ford Motor Company would never agree to that. And frankly, I don't believe they should either. Free enterprise is under constant attack in this republic and why put another nail in its coffin with such a heavy-handed attack? Ford is in the business of selling cars and making a profit, not as a benefit center for its employees. I know it will cause a hardship in the area if Ford relocates, either domestically or internationally but hopefully the spark of what has made America great,its entreprenurial spirit, will rise from the ashes like the phoenix and create new opportunities and dreams. Think about the possiblities, not the doom and gloom scenarios painted for us today in the print,internet and broadcast media.
Now I think I will drive my F-250 down to Baskin-Robbins and wreck my health!
Rider

Overland Park, KS

#20 Jul 1, 2010
More corporate welfair. Cut all corporate tax breaks. Save a trillion dollars.

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