Ram Kicks Tundra in the Face

Ram Kicks Tundra in the Face

There are 36 comments on the Jalopnik story from Apr 5, 2012, titled Ram Kicks Tundra in the Face . In it, Jalopnik reports that:

Ram continues to impress the masses. Many Tundra owners are trading in their delicate Japanese truck for the absolute strength of the American Ram, F150, and Silverado.

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Proud Canadian

Windsor, Canada

#25 Apr 19, 2012
Phantompay wrote:
<quoted text>You have got to be the dumbest canadian in the world.
To our resident fool--aka Phantompay:

Everyone has the right to act stupidly once in a while.
Most everybody here agrees that you consistently abuse that privilege.
Here's some sage advice for the next time you choose to advertise your ignorance..........

On a good day you're a half-wit.
You remind those who read your posts of drool.
You are deficient in all that lends character.
You have the personality of wallpaper.
You are dank and filthy mouthed.
You are asinine and benighted.
Spammers look down on you.
Phone sex operators always hang up on you.
Telemarketers refuse to be seen in public with you.
You are the source of all unpleasantness in these forums.
You spread only misery and meanness wherever you go.
May you choke on your own foolish and dullard opinions.
You are a Pusillanimous galactophage at the best of times..

“Irrefutable Harm”

Since: Mar 09

Miami Beach Fl.

#26 Apr 19, 2012
Ok, you to be one of the dumbest canadians in the world.
Proud Canadian

Windsor, Canada

#27 Apr 19, 2012
(a) Defintion of "Pusillanimous".....

"One who is cowardly, spineless, dull, intellectually deficient,having inferiority complex, delusional"

(b) Definition of "Galactophage":.....

"One who has carnal relations with his own mother".
Tundra

Tucson, AZ

#28 Apr 19, 2012
toyota crap fire wrote:
Beauty might be in the eye but that tundra looks like somebody put 4 wheels on a fat turd.
I have owned all four brands of trucks and was always a loyal Chevy fan until the bailouts. Until the top three were punished by the Tundra, did they even start making improvements to their product. Chevy still uses the same old gutless engines in their trucks, Ford finally ditched the 4.6 and 5.4, Dodge still has the 4.7. The top 3 used the Tundra as a measuring stick to make improvements on their product. It's funny how they focus on specs instead of quality. So what if the Ram and Ford have a few more horsepower or can tow 50 more lbs. I was always at the dealership with my Chevy's, Ford's and Dodge's. My Tundra has been to the dealer once for a TSB on the driveline. I can guarantee one thing. My supercharged Tundra would own anything ever produced by the top three and still be under warranty.
Love and Happiness

Las Vegas, NV

#29 Apr 19, 2012
Tundra wrote:
<quoted text>
I have owned all four brands of trucks and was always a loyal Chevy fan until the bailouts. Until the top three were punished by the Tundra, did they even start making improvements to their product. Chevy still uses the same old gutless engines in their trucks, Ford finally ditched the 4.6 and 5.4, Dodge still has the 4.7. The top 3 used the Tundra as a measuring stick to make improvements on their product. It's funny how they focus on specs instead of quality. So what if the Ram and Ford have a few more horsepower or can tow 50 more lbs. I was always at the dealership with my Chevy's, Ford's and Dodge's. My Tundra has been to the dealer once for a TSB on the driveline. I can guarantee one thing. My supercharged Tundra would own anything ever produced by the top three and still be under warranty.
Lol I have (had) a friend with a Tundra that had to take a huge loss on it becuase nobody wanted it. It was a weak truck.
Damage Control

Columbus, OH

#30 Apr 19, 2012
Proud Canadian wrote:
<quoted text>
To our resident fool--aka Phantompay:
Everyone has the right to act stupidly once in a while.
Most everybody here agrees that you consistently abuse that privilege.
Here's some sage advice for the next time you choose to advertise your ignorance..........
On a good day you're a half-wit.
You remind those who read your posts of drool.
You are deficient in all that lends character.
You have the personality of wallpaper.
You are dank and filthy mouthed.
You are asinine and benighted.
Spammers look down on you.
Phone sex operators always hang up on you.
Telemarketers refuse to be seen in public with you.
You are the source of all unpleasantness in these forums.
You spread only misery and meanness wherever you go.
May you choke on your own foolish and dullard opinions.
You are a Pusillanimous galactophage at the best of times..
...ummmm...it's always "sage advice"...it takes more energy to be nasty than nice...your stinger is out and it shows...



...shalom...
Root

Shreveport, LA

#31 Apr 19, 2012
Love and Happiness wrote:
<quoted text>Lol I have (had) a friend with a Tundra that had to take a huge loss on it becuase nobody wanted it. It was a weak truck.
The damn owner’s manual tells you not to drive with the tailgate down. Now that is weak.
Proud Canadian

Windsor, Canada

#32 Apr 20, 2012
Damage Control wrote:
<quoted text>
...ummmm...it's always "sage advice"...it takes more energy to be nasty than nice...your stinger is out and it shows...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =mQazWcvo5cYXX
...shalom...
The bee only uses its stinger when attacked.
My post was just some well deserved payback for unprovoked and unwarranted personal attacks by the pervert calling himself Phantompay..

PS: Have you read any of the filth that boxo posts?
Proud Canadian

Windsor, Canada

#33 Apr 20, 2012
Root wrote:
<quoted text>The damn owner’s manual tells you not to drive with the tailgate down. Now that is weak.
Please check your facts.
You're referring to a statement in the 2007 Owner's manual.
Tailgate issues with Tundra aren't there any more.
Furthermore the vast majority of the alledgedly weak Tundra tailgates were found to be caused by external damage.
Besides-tailgate problems aren't exclusive to Toyota.
Remember the 800,000 GM pickups recalled in 2001/2/3 where people were getting seriously hurt because the tailgate support cables were failing?
Love and Happiness

Las Vegas, NV

#34 Apr 21, 2012
Proud Canadian wrote:
<quoted text>
Please check your facts.
You're referring to a statement in the 2007 Owner's manual.
Tailgate issues with Tundra aren't there any more.
Furthermore the vast majority of the alledgedly weak Tundra tailgates were found to be caused by external damage.
Besides-tailgate problems aren't exclusive to Toyota.
Remember the 800,000 GM pickups recalled in 2001/2/3 where people were getting seriously hurt because the tailgate support cables were failing?
The Tundra manual still says that. My friend had a Tundra.
Proud Canadian

Windsor, Canada

#35 Apr 22, 2012
Love and Happiness wrote:
<quoted text>The Tundra manual still says that. My friend had a Tundra.
You appear to have a lot of friends who own Tundras.
Tundra must be a popular truck in your circle of acquaintances.
You often reference your friend's experiences--but we recognize that your word is only as good as your track record here--which is highly questionable at best.
Hearsay doesn't hold much integrity either.

PS---every truck manufacturer's operating manual includes safety comments on weight limits for tailgates--maximum 300 pounds is the norm.

“Most Honored Senior Member ”

Since: Jun 09

Dallas, TX.

#36 Apr 22, 2012
I would be interested to see the wording in the current manual. I do know when this problem first hit the 07 model, it did say not to drive with the tailgate down.
Proud Canadian

Windsor, Canada

#37 Apr 22, 2012
JJFADS wrote:
I would be interested to see the wording in the current manual. I do know when this problem first hit the 07 model, it did say not to drive with the tailgate down.
You are correct about the 2007 Tundra wording. I believe the newer models say something different---they refer to load limits similar to GM--see below.
Furthermore it was subsequently shown that the reputed tailgate damage resulted primarily from impacts and excessive loads.
(Sounds a lot like the hype about sludge and SUA!)
It is also correct that GM was hit with a ruling by the NHTSA to issue recalls for their tailgate support cable problems---1999 thru 2004 models. We had three of those 2000, 2002, and 2004.(did get recalls, but never did have the cables replaced. Never had any problems either!)!!
Wording in all of our 3 Silverados--2008, 2010, and the new 2012 owners manuals all caution not to exceed loading tailgates in the down postion in excess of 300 pounds, or 135 kilos.
Proud Canadian

Windsor, Canada

#38 Apr 22, 2012
JJFADS wrote:
I would be interested to see the wording in the current manual. I do know when this problem first hit the 07 model, it did say not to drive with the tailgate down.
I thought this comment on a recent Autoblog tells it all very nicely:...

"When loading cargo, the tailgate should not be used as a platform on which to apply any sort of significant weight. This is especially true if using a ramp to load something heavy, like a motorcycle. The straps that secure tailgates are prone to failure, and we've heard more than one story of someone who's dropped a lawn tractor or Harley several feet and wrapped the tailgate around the bumper in the process. It only takes a few seconds to remove the tailgate, and we recommend doing so when loading or unloading."
Love and Happiness

Las Vegas, NV

#39 Apr 23, 2012
Proud Canadian wrote:
<quoted text>
You appear to have a lot of friends who own Tundras.
Tundra must be a popular truck in your circle of acquaintances.
You often reference your friend's experiences--but we recognize that your word is only as good as your track record here--which is highly questionable at best.
Hearsay doesn't hold much integrity either.
PS---every truck manufacturer's operating manual includes safety comments on weight limits for tailgates--maximum 300 pounds is the norm.
I had one friend that owned a Tundra that's all.
GMCman

Pittsburgh, PA

#41 Apr 30, 2012
Root wrote:
<quoted text>The damn owner’s manual tells you not to drive with the tailgate down. Now that is weak.
It says that because the tail gate could fall off.

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