Serpentine blt comes of in rain

Since: Aug 08

El Paso, Tx

#243 Oct 1, 2008
I think the pulleys are the cause, the ball-bearing cores may have rusted or damaged, you can change the cores of the pulleys, they are just pressure-inserted, they do sell the cores in most auto-part stores. This is the least expensive way to do it or buy the new pulleys for about $20 each ($5 for both cores)

“terry”

Since: Mar 07

bellevue,ky

#244 Oct 5, 2008
Shelly Harmon wrote:
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I am a single mom and I have had the belt fall off my minivan too many times to count. I had the Dayco tensioner and the belt still fell off. I for one will never buy a Dayco product again. In my opinion they are junk.
FOR GODS SAKE, USE THE GATES SYSTEM, IT WORKS, DONT SCREW AROUND ON THIS WEB SITE.YPU ARE WAISTING TIME, ENERGY, AND MONEY. GO GIRL, GET IT DONE, TERRY LEE,. KY.
Christopher

New York, NY

#245 Nov 15, 2008
i Also have a 1999 plymouth voyager and the belt comes off everytime it rains.i did some investigating and found a quick easy and cheap fix.call or go to any chrysler dealer and ask for part number 5003480aa its called a pully shield and it costs $20 it will work on plymouth dodge and chrysler. and all you do is remove the center bolt from the idler pully put same bolt through pully shield and just replace bolt.no need to even remove the belt takes 5 min.
Christopher

New York, NY

#246 Nov 15, 2008
terry lee wrote:
<quoted text>FOR GODS SAKE, USE THE GATES SYSTEM, IT WORKS, DONT SCREW AROUND ON THIS WEB SITE.YPU ARE WAISTING TIME, ENERGY, AND MONEY. GO GIRL, GET IT DONE, TERRY LEE,. KY.
i Also have a 1999 plymouth voyager and the belt comes off everytime it rains.i did some investigating and found a quick easy and cheap fix.call or go to any chrysler dealer and ask for part number 5003480aa its called a pully shield and it costs $20 it will work on plymouth dodge and chrysler. and all you do is remove the center bolt from the idler pully put same bolt through pully shield and just replace bolt.no need to even remove the belt takes 5 min.

Since: Jan 09

Maunaloa, HI

#247 Jan 2, 2009
Your Pal AL wrote:
Ok people. I am going to clear things up for everyone. I have read this discussion and there seems to be some confusion.
Yes, there is a kit out there that works abolutely amazing. These kits are so new that most parts counter people do not know that it even exists, so they may not be describing it properly. The kit consists of a new tensioner (with a grooved pulley instead of a flat one)a grooved idler (which replaces the flat one) and a special serpentine belt which has ribs on both sides.
The kit for the 96-2000 minivan 3.0L engine is already available.
The Goodyear kit number is 49204K.
It is also available from Gates. The Gates number is 38342K.
It only takes about 1 hr to install the kit, so if a shop charges you 2 hrs, then you are getting ripped off.
Yes, a 3.3/3.8L kit is also comming out for model years 96-2000. It will be available early Dec 2006.
These kits are not availble at your dealer. They have been designed and created for the aftermarket, because there is such a huge demand for a fix to this particular problem and nobody seems to be doing anything about it (other than the snow shield that does not work at all). I recommend that you buy the kit and then post your results on the web. You won't be disappointed. Put this belt jumping issue to bed once and for all.
I am told that this kit will not work on a 1993 Caravan 3.0. I don't understand. I compared my 1993 with a 1996, and it looks the same. The serpentine belt on the 1993 is 1 inch longer. Is there a difference? Can this kit be used on a 1993?Please clarify

Since: Jan 09

Maunaloa, HI

#248 Jan 2, 2009
I have a 1993 Dodge Caravan with 3.0 engine. When I hit a puddle of water, the serpentine belt comes off. I have heard that this is a common problem. I have also heard that there is a replacement kit, with a double sided grooved belt that will solve this problem. However, I am told that it will only work on a 1996-2000 3.0 Caravan. My friend has a 1996, with a double sided grooved belt, so I compared it to my 1993 Caravan, and it looks the same. I checked the stock replacement sepentine belt aqpplication, and it shows the 1993 to be 1 inch longer, and the same width. Please tell me if I will be able to use the replacement kit on my 1993, and if any modification is needed.
Red Forman

Ajax, Canada

#249 Jan 6, 2009
Kamiloiki wrote:
I have a 1993 Dodge Caravan with 3.0 engine. When I hit a puddle of water, the serpentine belt comes off. I have heard that this is a common problem. I have also heard that there is a replacement kit, with a double sided grooved belt that will solve this problem. However, I am told that it will only work on a 1996-2000 3.0 Caravan. My friend has a 1996, with a double sided grooved belt, so I compared it to my 1993 Caravan, and it looks the same. I checked the stock replacement sepentine belt aqpplication, and it shows the 1993 to be 1 inch longer, and the same width. Please tell me if I will be able to use the replacement kit on my 1993, and if any modification is needed.
The 96-2000 kit will not work on your 1993. Your right the belt lenght is 1 inch different. The kit was never made for the older vans. I guess there was not enough demand, so it was never developed. I am amazed that there are still some of those old vans on the road. My best advice would be to buy yourself a new Goodyear tensioner (as well as any idlers on the engine) and a Goodyear "gator back" belt. These belts are superior in wet conditions due to the special pattern cut into the belt grooves. Goodyear may a bit more money but the product is excellent.

Hope this helps.
Red Forman

Big Red
cadeaplus

Eddyville, KY

#250 Jan 30, 2009
My 94 Grand Caravan experienced this problem recently. I owned it and driving it since 1997 and this is the first time. Serpentine belt has been replaced at least 4 times since. After paid some attentions to the 'belt length', I suspect the problem is on which length you used. Duralast is 98.7", other bands is 99". The one jump off 6 months after installation is the 99" one. My old one worn out but never jump off, its length is 98.7". I guess, the 99" should be the stretched length, not the new belt length.
Shelly

Manchester, CT

#251 Feb 1, 2009
TERRY LEE-KY wrote:
DONNA TOMER- GO TO MIDWAYAUTOSUPPLY.COM --GATES SYSTEM SOLUTION MICRO-V-KIT, SEE WHAT THEY SAY. GOOD LUCK TERRY LEE ---BELLEVUE,KY
Does it come with instructions on how to put it on?
vito

Warren, MI

#252 Mar 2, 2009
The gates system from midway works and my van is also quieter. Thanks fo allthe info
vito

Warren, MI

#253 Mar 2, 2009
Filed a complaint at www.safercar.gov Everyone losing their belt after driving through large puddles or similar instance should do the same. Thanks
Sanjia

Ajax, Canada

#254 Mar 11, 2009
This belt jumping issue has now been addressed with a new fix kit for the early minivans. 1993-95 with the 3.3L and the 3.8L engines.
Goodyear part number: 49381K
Gates part number is 38398K
These kits work absolutely amazing.
Doug- Appomattox Va

United States

#255 Apr 4, 2009
I have a 1995 Grand Voyager. In Feb. of 08 I repalced the belt and the tenisoner at the same time. My original tensioner was defective. In March of this year my belt came off while making a turn through a pool of water. At slow speeds. I checked the tenisoner and it had a sticking point so I called Advance and had it replaced. A week later I was pulling into Walmart through another pool of water and the belt came off again. Again at a slow speed. My original tensioner and belt had only 16,000 miles. Not enough to have worn out the tensioner. The tensioner and belt are Dayco.
I find it hard to believe that the engine plate has a bend in it. My van has 200,000 miles on it and I have replaced all of the bearing in the idler pulleys. I was thinking that there may be something wrong with the steering pump, but I have no noise or fluid loss. The sterring works well. I will check out the kit from Gates. Thanks to all for posting your comments. I thing that I will also file a complaint with the Nat. Hwy. and Safty Admin.
nona

Virginia Beach, VA

#256 Jun 13, 2009
My 2000 Town&country did the same thing! The belt slipped as I went thru a puddle and the power steering stopped working, I almost hit another car as I was turning ( it was so heavy to turn, I had to use all my strength!!!! My frien who was also a mechanic for Hondas told me that he was working @ chrysler dealer and the company had a recall on engine splash shield. So I am going to check with chrysler in my city to see what they'll say. I will let everyone know>>>>>
nona

Virginia Beach, VA

#257 Jun 13, 2009
Sorry just forgot to add onemore thing: For everyone w/ the belt slipping or came off issues, you need to check the dealer and check if there's a recall, like I mentioned before, it's not about the tenssion or the pulley, the problem is the rain water splash on the belt and knock it off the pulley, since there's no ENGINE SPLASH GUARD underneath to protect the water from hitting the belt and knock it loose or off the pulley. To me this is a very serious issue that need to be reported and taken are of, it could happen anytime you go thru the puddle, so it's not the belt itself. Imagine if this happen in the middle of the night when it's raining and you have children in the back seat!
Tara

Silver Spring, MD

#258 Jul 9, 2009
This past year I was starting to turn a corner at slow speed and suddenly my steering went. I managed to make it onto the grass Only a couple of feet away from hitting a brick building. IT was very scarry and I had my kids with me. We will be getting the Gates Kit finally. I should not have to feel terrified to drive in the rain.
Tara Silver Spring Md

Silver Spring, MD

#259 Jul 9, 2009
I have checked several websites there is no recall.
George

Mississauga, Canada

#260 Aug 4, 2009
Darryl wrote:
I have ran a back parts department for Canadian Tire for 15years, this department supplies the service department mechanics withparts. I have see this problem with Caravans since 1990. Chrysler sells a metal shield that bolts on the outer side of the tensioner pully. It works and is arould $20 CND.
Darryl,
if at all possible, I realize this is 3 years since your post, but can you provide me with the part number for this part..........our 2000 Dodge Caravan lost its belt over the last 2 weeks 3 times..........Chrysler is no help whatsoever.
Thanks. George
George

Mississauga, Canada

#261 Aug 4, 2009
Bryan wrote:
Gates told me a couple weeks ago they won't release the kit number for the 1996-2000 Caravan/Voyager 3.3 & 3.8 liter models until it's actually offered for sale in Jan. I'll keep in contact with them and post the kit number as soon as it's offered. Gates said carquest, napa, and jobbers in your area will carry or can order the kit. The 3.0 liter engine kit is already available, Gates kit number 38342K.
Any chance you have the number for the Caravan 3.8 litre model?.........just had my belt slip off 3 times in the past 2 weeks........need it fixed and feel secure/safe again.

Thanks. George
terrylee

Lexington, KY

#262 Sep 2, 2009
there will never be a recall!!!!!!!!!!

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