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Wanna Retire

Trenton, MI

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#1
Feb 25, 2009
 
How long do you think this is going to take to reach an agreement? I heard Ron Gettlefinger has the ok to make concessions without a vote! Is this true?
HOTROD

Royal Oak, MI

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#2
Feb 25, 2009
 
i think you should know something by the 15 or 31st. he might be able to do anything he wants to but we have to be offered an explaination of the new contract and be given an opertunity to vote on it. im telling you that if it stinks, VOTE NO. dont give into a weak contract that will give away the farm.
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#3
Feb 25, 2009
 
In the past we've only been given the higlights and found out about the downside to new contracts later. I wonder what the strategy will be this time? Tell us the 'bad' and then let us find out the 'real bad' later after it's already been voted on???
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Royal Oak, MI

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#4
Feb 25, 2009
 
i believe in my gut feelings. been taught to go by them. if it feels bad, then it has a good chance it is. vote you heart on your new contract when it is presented to you. good luck.
GuessWhoTwo

Clarkston, MI

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#5
Feb 25, 2009
 
Oh how sad is it true that the millwrights at Trenton Engine will have to go on the line? Tell Mark M. ha ha ha...
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Feb 26, 2009
 

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despite how we vote do you really think international will give the true count.its going to pass no matter how we vote.
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Feb 26, 2009
 

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In the last two contacts, the Union withheld critical information. They have not been truthfull in years. I see no difference this time around. Trust in what YOU believe and vote accordingly.
Mack Ave 1

Lincoln Park, MI

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#8
Feb 26, 2009
 
Factory Rat wrote:
despite how we vote do you really think international will give the true count.its going to pass no matter how we vote.
Will International take any cuts like the rest of us?
emanon313

Dearborn, MI

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#9
Feb 26, 2009
 
Mack Ave 1 wrote:
<quoted text> Will International take any cuts like the rest of us?
Yeah, really. When was the last time they cut any jobs or pay or benefits?
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Eastpointe, MI

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#10
Feb 26, 2009
 
Mack Ave 1 wrote:
<quoted text> Will International take any cuts like the rest of us?
You know they won't. That is why UAW did not touch the wages and benefits so they can still make the big bucks while people like me with less than 10 years of seniority can kiss my ass good buy.No job bank, no sub pay only to people with 20 years of seniority. We going to get screw again.
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#11
Feb 26, 2009
 
Not to take away anything from the high seniority folks, but I've always felt like a 2nd class citizen when it comes to the union. 11 yrs & I'm still at the very bottom. That's the way it goes.
"if you don't like it, get some seniority!" that's what one of my old a-hole bosses once said...
unknown

Dearborn, MI

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#12
Mar 2, 2009
 
With or without seniority, there is trouble brewing. Having 15yrs. doesn't feel secure. They claim closing in 2014,phhht.... The mighty secret phoenix has us all wiped out. That plant is a ghost town. Walking out the other night and the lights are being shut off behind you. The union shotgunned that vote on Phoenix.No one but a handful of perfectattendance,(limited), have an opportunity. The plant manager couldn't even stay around when mgmt. bolted. They weren't upfront when the said they needed workers to get an education. People stood up and said, "Tell me what area you need us in and we'll do it." They didn't have the nerve to tell you that out the door is where your education was needed.They took advantaged of Obama by rushing him for money. He couldn't let the blisters of inaugeration day wear done till his pen was up in the automotive ordeal.Promises or not, that was again our union shotgunning him. Your vote is always needed. Your thoughts are always valued. Your future lies in your own destiny. They have a reason for the silence. Are you listening? The silent lip conversation has been going on since the first day you've worked there. Now its even louder. Are you listening? What's right is wrong, what's wrong is right! There is no future. We are all being squeeked out. No benefits, pensions, or perks. A temporary work force. There are many standing in line if you are unhappy. There's no one to belly ache at anymore. Sounding off in these forums is still wasting your precious time neededto make up your mind. All of us are brow beaten.None of us are cared for. The system at every angle has been perfected to never be in your favor. The blame game does not focus your inner self the question are you staying or going?
unknown

Dearborn, MI

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#13
Mar 6, 2009
 
is there anyone at Trenton Engine experiencing opposite the ongoing doom and gloom. Can you chime in something positive even though there is nothing more than personal discord. Is there supportive beam of hope. Sales were better,though they are knocking $5,000 off the models to push surplus to look like we are doing something here.
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Dearborn, MI

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#14
Mar 6, 2009
 
Just flipped over to a Dundee Forum. Seems the Toledo Blade states the bid for Fiat work will go to Gemma.
unknown

Dearborn, MI

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#15
Mar 6, 2009
 
So if Windsor downsizes in June to 2 shifts...are the minivans really needed. We'll see one shift if everyone keeps signing out real soon or temps.

Since: Jan 09

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#16
Mar 6, 2009
 
I'm now a Trenton Indefinite layoff here! All I can say is don't worry! We will all make it with or without Chrysler. What might be a "terrible" situation could end up being the best thing that ever happened! Keep Positive! We have a brother from Trenton that opened a Stevie B's Pizza, and is apparentely doing just fine, not to mention many others are doing just as great. LIFE BEFORE CHRYSLER, LIFE AFTER CHRYSLER!!!!!!!. We had a great job, but life don't end here. I'm ready to make a move on my dreams. You couldn't before, because we made good money. It is now are chance to do something that we've always wanted to do! DON'T LET IT END!
plant ratt

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#17
Mar 6, 2009
 
unknown wrote:
is there anyone at Trenton Engine experiencing opposite the ongoing doom and gloom. Can you chime in something positive even though there is nothing more than personal discord. Is there supportive beam of hope. Sales were better,though they are knocking $5,000 off the models to push surplus to look like we are doing something here.
im sorry to say but no they just put 44 people out the door today and with windsor cutting 3rd shift stl south gone that means less and less 3.3, 3.8 mini van engines! and 4.0 we make hardly goes in anything except fullly loaded mini van and nitro r/t.
the new phoenix plant is only going to take 300 people to run only about 140 of that will be production jobs! and we where told that chrysler hasant paid the vendors and that the project is being delayed because of that.
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Dearborn, MI

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#18
Mar 11, 2009
 
Is anyone catching the demands chrysler is loading ottawa with. they are threatening to pull chrysler if money isn't being given to compensate the bailout. Liens are going up on chrysler buildings because of owed tax money.Canada is in need of jobs so badly.Seriously, with people going out in buyouts, people going to new plant, windsor production low and threatened by sales, could there be a final buyout to close or is there a loophole such as plant idling. i want more money. sick of the shat. You?.....
tep

Monroe, MI

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#19
Mar 19, 2009
 
GuessWhoTwo wrote:
Oh how sad is it true that the millwrights at Trenton Engine will have to go on the line? Tell Mark M. ha ha ha...
hahahaha is right! But not really, because atleast those skilled tradesmen still have a job.(which bumped 15 extra people out the door indefinitely). Do the assemblers make 5 dollars more an hour? NO! Can the assemblers "bump" the trades? NO. hahahahahaha. All of this sh#@ is a joke!!
tep

Monroe, MI

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#20
Mar 19, 2009
 
Trades think there above everyone else.We got one in our dept and is having a pretty rough time learning a machine.

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