Strike Now: No UAW plant can be clo...

Strike Now: No UAW plant can be closed under current contract rules

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9lives

Saint Louis, MO

#1 Jun 30, 2009
Contractual language from the 2007 agreement states that "Chrysler has agreed that it will not close, nor partially or wholly sell, spin off, split off, consolidate or otherwise dispose of, in any form, any plant, asset or business unit of any type". All current Chrysler workers are still covered under this agreement. Any plant closure requires a plant closure letter to be negotiated with details concerning buyout or retirement packages along with information concerning options for relocation to other facilities. The UAW has the upper hand now to force Chrysler to keep open facilities that might be otherwise closed. A nation wide strike at this time could force Chrysler to keep open U.S. plants and close Mexican plants. After all wasn't job creation and preservation the Obama administration's primary objective with regards to a U.S. taxpayer loan to the U.S. auto industry? Strike now to force Chrysler to spend it's U.S. tax payer loan only here in the U.S. preserving and creating jobs as the loan was intended.
NorthSouth

De Soto, KS

#2 Jun 30, 2009
We can't strike... contractual language of the 2009 Agreement. I wish we could!
willis

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#3 Jul 1, 2009
9lives wrote:
Contractual language from the 2007 agreement states that "Chrysler has agreed that it will not close, nor partially or wholly sell, spin off, split off, consolidate or otherwise dispose of, in any form, any plant, asset or business unit of any type". All current Chrysler workers are still covered under this agreement. Any plant closure requires a plant closure letter to be negotiated with details concerning buyout or retirement packages along with information concerning options for relocation to other facilities. The UAW has the upper hand now to force Chrysler to keep open facilities that might be otherwise closed. A nation wide strike at this time could force Chrysler to keep open U.S. plants and close Mexican plants. After all wasn't job creation and preservation the Obama administration's primary objective with regards to a U.S. taxpayer loan to the U.S. auto industry? Strike now to force Chrysler to spend it's U.S. tax payer loan only here in the U.S. preserving and creating jobs as the loan was intended.
Well put!!! Doubt it though
guy

Auburn Hills, MI

#4 Jul 1, 2009
Oh sure, let's strike against a fragile company with no money. We own 55% for our health care. Striking serves us how?

Since: Oct 08

Toledo, OH

#5 Jul 1, 2009
That was before bankruptcy and new contract. I wouldn't doubt that if anyone formed an 'illegal' strike they'd be fired for it.
SLPN

Saint Louis, MO

#6 Jul 1, 2009
TNAPWife wrote:
That was before bankruptcy and new contract. I wouldn't doubt that if anyone formed an 'illegal' strike they'd be fired for it.
What about closing a plant. Anything in this new 2009 agreement about that?

Since: Oct 08

Toledo, OH

#7 Jul 1, 2009
That I can't say without looking at it. All I remember is the plant closures were part of the viability stuff in February. First it started with 5 or 6 engine plants. Then it went from engine to; engine, tranny, axle.. then it ended with including assembly. All of this was decided before government approval and before your contract. Sneaky that they didn't name plants until after the vote...yes.. but unfortunately we all knew they were coming, and we all held our breaths to hope our home plant wasn't on the list.(see forum news and posts from that time period for more details...)

If anyone else can answer this question, please do... Thanks.
Local 110

Sainte Genevieve, MO

#8 Jul 1, 2009
There is no agreement, they can do whatever they want. The union totally sold everyone out. I would have rather given up a few bucks an hour than not have an agreement. I give it less than a year and they will be taking away some of our hourly wage. Watch and see. What a joke!
Flowers and Dolphins

Kokomo, IN

#9 Jul 1, 2009
If we were to strike it should start with striking against the International UAW. They were the ones that allowed us to be pushed into the corner. They were the ones that allowed us to sign a contract without telling us "all the facts" including plant shutdowns.
Every contract, information is withheld from us until after the vote. They think we are too stupid to make our own decisions so they have to make them for us. At the same time we are taking cuts Ron Gettlefinger is getting pay raises. They keep us focused on the company so we don't see what they are doing. AND IT'S WORKING!!!

I'm seeing Local Presidents selling out their membership for an International position. We (at our local) had an elected official on the international negotiating committee. When he came home for the union meetings he stated that he was not allowed to talk to us about the ongoing negotiations. THESE ARE OUR CONTRACTS THEY HID FROM US!! Am I the only one who sees this? It's not the company hiding this stuff. It's our own union.
uaw spouse

AOL

#10 Jul 1, 2009
Maybe the legal resource should be used. Unions are obligated to represent their members
SP94A

AOL

#11 Jul 1, 2009
Why should I strike, Im working. Good luck
MR in hv

United States

#12 Jul 1, 2009
uaw spouse, call the NLRB they will tell you what the union is obligated to do. It ant what you think.
Flowers and Dolphins

Kokomo, IN

#13 Jul 1, 2009
MR in hv wrote:
uaw spouse, call the NLRB they will tell you what the union is obligated to do. It ant what you think.
yea, any changing will be up to us.
Huu

Waterloo, IL

#14 Jul 1, 2009
If you want to see pi**ed off UAW members, just talk to Local 624 from Syracuse (NPG). They will give you an earful about how they were screwed.
meme

AOL

#15 Jul 1, 2009
NorthSouth wrote:
We can't strike... contractual language of the 2009 Agreement. I wish we could!
They did'nt abide by the contract why should you.
meme

AOL

#16 Jul 1, 2009
NorthSouth wrote:
We can't strike... contractual language of the 2009 Agreement. I wish we could!
they did'nt abide by the contract so why should the people
meme

AOL

#17 Jul 1, 2009
NorthSouth wrote:
We can't strike... contractual language of the 2009 Agreement. I wish we could!
DUH <The company did'nt abide by the contract why should the people?
meme

AOL

#18 Jul 1, 2009
SP94A wrote:
Why should I strike, Im working. Good luck
This is why they screw the people.They can do anything and this idiot will take it.
trix are for kids

Lake Saint Louis, MO

#19 Jul 1, 2009
Flowers and Dolphins wrote:
If we were to strike it should start with striking against the International UAW. They were the ones that allowed us to be pushed into the corner. They were the ones that allowed us to sign a contract without telling us "all the facts" including plant shutdowns.
Every contract, information is withheld from us until after the vote. They think we are too stupid to make our own decisions so they have to make them for us. At the same time we are taking cuts Ron Gettlefinger is getting pay raises. They keep us focused on the company so we don't see what they are doing. AND IT'S WORKING!!!
I'm seeing Local Presidents selling out their membership for an International position. We (at our local) had an elected official on the international negotiating committee. When he came home for the union meetings he stated that he was not allowed to talk to us about the ongoing negotiations. THESE ARE OUR CONTRACTS THEY HID FROM US!! Am I the only one who sees this? It's not the company hiding this stuff. It's our own union.
And yet, you still approved the contract. LOL. You only have yourself to blame there. If you didnt like the contract, you should have voted NO. Plain and simple
NorthSouth

De Soto, KS

#20 Jul 1, 2009
guy wrote:
Oh sure, let's strike against a fragile company with no money. We own 55% for our health care. Striking serves us how?
Well, I think the point would be to keep US plants open instead of shipping our jobs to Mexico.

It's too bad there is no solidarity anymore. People only care about themselves. The jerk off who says he is already working is a sorry excuse for a UAW member. No doubt they voted yes on the contract because they were scared and weak. Anyone who voted yes doesn't have the right to complain about anything.

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