signing bonus
HRC

Saint Peters, MO

#41 Nov 3, 2007
Johnnie Cochran wrote:
The signing bonus turns into a performance bonus which takes the place of scheduled raises.
WRONG. You have no clue either. A signing bonus is not a performance bonus. It's simple!!!!! We sign a contract...we get a bonus for doing it and it is in no way shape or form has anything to do with performance bonus's that we will get instead of regular raises.
HRC

Saint Peters, MO

#42 Nov 3, 2007
Signing bonus will be pais on 11/14.
HRC

Saint Peters, MO

#43 Nov 3, 2007
.........and one more time for kokomo tpt.....who hasn't a clue about how things work........TPT's WILL NOT GET A SIGNING BONUS.....PERIOD! It sucks for the tpt's but that's the way it is. I feel for you all though. We never got paid a signing bonus or profit sharing as tpt's either.

kokomo, are we clear though? You do realize that you won't get paid and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it? Don't set yourself up for a letdown on 11/14 when the check is passed out.
HRC

Saint Peters, MO

#44 Nov 3, 2007
temps with familys wrote:
<quoted text>not true my husband is a temp and has been paid for 1 week of vacation and a sick leave
Wrong!!!! You tpt's really are misinformed or are blinded by wishful thinking. TPT's do not get sick pay or vacation. Your husband works at Belvidere, right? Of course he does because if he didn't, someone screwed up bigtime and I don't think a mistake like that is even possible!!! So...tell us.....tell us he works at Belvidere.
Mary-BAP

Janesville, WI

#45 Nov 3, 2007
HRC..Since you are soo much more knowledgable than I..why on page 97 of the redbook..Where it states that we TPT's are excluded from the signing bonus..why is it crossed out?
ram

AOL

#46 Nov 3, 2007
Mary-BAP wrote:
HRC..Since you are soo much more knowledgable than I..why on page 97 of the redbook..Where it states that we TPT's are excluded from the signing bonus..why is it crossed out?
Mary , I feel TPT's should get it...but the union officials at StLouis are telling our tpt's they will not get it...I hope they are wrong for the sake of all tpt's..They are also saying the ETE's at BAP will get it.Best of luck to you
Johnnie Cochran

United States

#47 Nov 3, 2007
HRC wrote:
<quoted text>
WRONG. You have no clue either. A signing bonus is not a performance bonus. It's simple!!!!! We sign a contract...we get a bonus for doing it and it is in no way shape or form has anything to do with performance bonus's that we will get instead of regular raises.
You must have started at Chrysler before extensive testing of employees commenced as you don't seem to have a clue as to what everyone is saying. Are there scheduled raises anymore? No. The signing bonus and performance bonuses are given in lieu of scheduled raises. Have the TPT's ever voted on a contract before? No. A Labor board has decided that TPT's have a right to vote on their contract. Does that entitle them to a signing bonus? Let a Labor board decide that one. If temporary employees (ETE's) at BAP get the signing bonus then why not TPT's? It sounds like discrimination to me.
New Gear

Windham, ME

#48 Nov 3, 2007
Johnnie Cochran wrote:
<quoted text>
You must have started at Chrysler before extensive testing of employees commenced as you don't seem to have a clue as to what everyone is saying. Are there scheduled raises anymore? No. The signing bonus and performance bonuses are given in lieu of scheduled raises. Have the TPT's ever voted on a contract before? No. A Labor board has decided that TPT's have a right to vote on their contract. Does that entitle them to a signing bonus? Let a Labor board decide that one. If temporary employees (ETE's) at BAP get the signing bonus then why not TPT's? It sounds like discrimination to me.
If the glove don't fit...
HRC

Chesterfield, MO

#49 Nov 3, 2007
Look, you guys can argue all you want but you are not getting a signing bonus. The bonus will be paid on 11/14. Come back and argue then. It sucks that you are not getting it but that's the way it is. I realize you are tpt's and maybe you haven't been around long enough to know the chrysler way. Never expect anything good because you will just be let down. You guys sit here trying to talk yourselves into getting a bonus but have you even bothered to ask your union? OBVIOUSLY NOT. All this arguing and wishful thinking yet you fail to ask someone who knows. I find that very odd.
Johnnie Cochran

United States

#50 Nov 3, 2007
Years ago a TPT was told by their Union that they weren't allowed to vote on the contract. That TPT then went to the Labor Bord and got rights for all TPT's to vote on the contract. Contracts are often subject to interpretation and debate. TPT's can't trust the union since they just don't care and can't be bothered. I question the legality of giving some temporary employees a benefit and not granting it to all.
stamping 95

AOL

#51 Nov 3, 2007
they told us the 16th at our plant it was stated on a paper they gave to everyone.
stlsouth

United States

#52 Nov 3, 2007
All this arguing and confusion are exactly why it is inappropriate for a Union to represent two different classes of workers performing the same work.

Just one of many fundamental flaws in our Union.
jerry---slps

AOL

#53 Nov 4, 2007
The language in which Mary refers is language from the 2003. Which excludes TPT's from that signing bonus. Yes, they did delete(2007) excluding TPT's. They added new language(pg.97) to describe what an active(full time employee)who is eligible for the bonus. A tpt doesn't meet most if any of those requirements. Its really not that complicated.
HRC

Chesterfield, MO

#54 Nov 4, 2007
Yeah, it's common knowledge and I can't believe some tpt's think they are actually getting a bonus. They have no facts to back this up and haven't bothered to even ask someone who knows. They are setting themselves up for a letdown cause they are not getting one dollar. Why would they? It sucks for them but it doesn't change anything.
Mary-BAP

Janesville, WI

#55 Nov 5, 2007
Ok..Ok..came on here to ask you guys who have been in the union longer what it meant when it was crossed out, that was all..I'm not banking on getting the bonus..never said I had all the facts either and yes I have asked union stewards (when I can find one) One said "no" and the other said they were checking on why we were not...No reason to be mean..Geez
temps with familys

United States

#56 Nov 6, 2007
Johnnie Cochran wrote:
<quoted text>
You must have started at Chrysler before extensive testing of employees commenced as you don't seem to have a clue as to what everyone is saying. Are there scheduled raises anymore? No. The signing bonus and performance bonuses are given in lieu of scheduled raises. Have the TPT's ever voted on a contract before? No. A Labor board has decided that TPT's have a right to vote on their contract. Does that entitle them to a signing bonus? Let a Labor board decide that one. If temporary employees (ETE's) at BAP get the signing bonus then why not TPT's? It sounds like discrimination to me.
yes but that would be the diffrance between temp part time and enhanced, enhanced get benefits like earned vacation and the signing bonus & x-mas pay
jerry---slps

AOL

#57 Nov 6, 2007
Mary-BAP wrote:
Ok..Ok..came on here to ask you guys who have been in the union longer what it meant when it was crossed out, that was all..I'm not banking on getting the bonus..never said I had all the facts either and yes I have asked union stewards (when I can find one) One said "no" and the other said they were checking on why we were not...No reason to be mean..Geez
The pages in the contract with lines through it are deleted sentences. Anything underlinbed is new language.
uaw1984

Somerset, KY

#58 Nov 6, 2007
Mary-BAP wrote:
Ok..Ok..came on here to ask you guys who have been in the union longer what it meant when it was crossed out, that was all..I'm not banking on getting the bonus..never said I had all the facts either and yes I have asked union stewards (when I can find one) One said "no" and the other said they were checking on why we were not...No reason to be mean..Geez
Mary, the ETE's will get the bonus at BAP. That was part of the of the agreement and PART of the tactics to get the CRAP of a contract passed.
ENHANCED and part time are two different subjects with different language!
The reason something is crossed out in the the contract you are reading now is because they are going by the LAST contract. Once this one is printed they will add and cross out language at the next set of negotiations. They are just going by the previous contract. When it is crossed out it is no longer in THIS contract.
Don't let the know-it-alls bring you down. The contract is not written in plain english so it can be used as needed.
tpt -slps

Saint Louis, MO

#59 Nov 6, 2007
TPT's get raises now and if the signing bonus is in place of raises then we should get it too. I could see if we never got raises but we do and they are being taken from us too.
tpts remember

Jeffersonville, IN

#60 Nov 7, 2007
Once tpt's are placed in non core jobs ( all those easy off line jobs ) then the full time $#$holes like jerry will be mad as hell. But they have there selve's to blame. Also most of those jobs have plenty of overtime and few layoffs. Cant wait to see there faces when Im working and there not. Funny how things change. In 4 years the international will come selling that 5 dollar raise to the non core workers, and a 10 dallar pay cut for the core workers. I'll be there lmao do you think non core will stand up for you, like you did for them....Fools Keep picking on the tpt's , they will remember you and your future. Have a good time on the lines..... And dont forget the donuts........lmao

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