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Trenton engine plant

San Mateo, CA

#1 Sep 17, 2011
What is the work hour times for trenton eng plant and what days do they work and how many shifts do they work
Joe

New Baltimore, MI

#2 Sep 17, 2011
Its called a 3-2-120. Three crews A, B, and C.
Its a 3 week rotation. Lets say you are on C crew. Mon thru Thurs 4.30am to 4.30pm in week 1. week 2 you work Wednesday thru Saturday and can be forced on Sunday from 4.30pm to 4.30am. week 3 work Monday, and Tuesday from 4.30pm to 4.30 am, then come back Friday and sat from 4.30am to 4.30pm and usually Sunday forced, then repeat. Don,t forget to get to get a good sleep pattern in all that. It is suppose to be 10hr days but has been 12 hrs as long as i can remember. You CAN and will be forced 12hrs and 2 out of 3 Sundays. I have worked 10 of the last 12 Sundays. Its not the best explanation but it is pretty hard to explain with out looking at a calender. Hope that clears it up for you. I am young and it is still very tough on my body, little and very inconsistent sleep, it just wears you down. Don,t think of going to school, or coaching you kids, joining some type of league and hope you can find some very flexible daycare. Some of the bosses and engineers also do the rotation but most of them enjoy a traditional schedule.
TEAM MEMBER

United States

#3 Sep 17, 2011
Joe wrote:
Its called a 3-2-120. Three crews A, B, and C.
Its a 3 week rotation. Lets say you are on C crew. Mon thru Thurs 4.30am to 4.30pm in week 1. week 2 you work Wednesday thru Saturday and can be forced on Sunday from 4.30pm to 4.30am. week 3 work Monday, and Tuesday from 4.30pm to 4.30 am, then come back Friday and sat from 4.30am to 4.30pm and usually Sunday forced, then repeat. Don,t forget to get to get a good sleep pattern in all that. It is suppose to be 10hr days but has been 12 hrs as long as i can remember. You CAN and will be forced 12hrs and 2 out of 3 Sundays. I have worked 10 of the last 12 Sundays. Its not the best explanation but it is pretty hard to explain with out looking at a calender. Hope that clears it up for you. I am young and it is still very tough on my body, little and very inconsistent sleep, it just wears you down. Don,t think of going to school, or coaching you kids, joining some type of league and hope you can find some very flexible daycare. Some of the bosses and engineers also do the rotation but most of them enjoy a traditional schedule.
Your UAW Health and Safety should get involved.
No Way

AOL

#4 Sep 17, 2011
Joe wrote:
Its called a 3-2-120. Three crews A, B, and C.
Its a 3 week rotation. Lets say you are on C crew. Mon thru Thurs 4.30am to 4.30pm in week 1. week 2 you work Wednesday thru Saturday and can be forced on Sunday from 4.30pm to 4.30am. week 3 work Monday, and Tuesday from 4.30pm to 4.30 am, then come back Friday and sat from 4.30am to 4.30pm and usually Sunday forced, then repeat. Don,t forget to get to get a good sleep pattern in all that. It is suppose to be 10hr days but has been 12 hrs as long as i can remember. You CAN and will be forced 12hrs and 2 out of 3 Sundays. I have worked 10 of the last 12 Sundays. Its not the best explanation but it is pretty hard to explain with out looking at a calender. Hope that clears it up for you. I am young and it is still very tough on my body, little and very inconsistent sleep, it just wears you down. Don,t think of going to school, or coaching you kids, joining some type of league and hope you can find some very flexible daycare. Some of the bosses and engineers also do the rotation but most of them enjoy a traditional schedule.
Its almost like selling your soul to the devil. The money is great I imagine but it does come with a price. I could never do it so hats off to you
KEP 72

Waterford, WI

#5 Sep 17, 2011
That's what they agreed to for that engine work, suck it up. They offered that engine to Kenosha first and we agreed, but Trenton got it. Now they're whineing. But I'm glad Kenosha didn't get it, because now I have a easier job and normal shift at another plant with full seniority. Life is good. SUCK IT UP TRENTON !!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !!!!!!!!!!
UAW

Taylor, MI

#6 Sep 17, 2011
KEP 72 wrote:
That's what they agreed to for that engine work, suck it up. They offered that engine to Kenosha first and we agreed, but Trenton got it. Now they're whineing. But I'm glad Kenosha didn't get it, because now I have a easier job and normal shift at another plant with full seniority. Life is good. SUCK IT UP TRENTON !!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !!!!!!!!!!
Its coming in the new contract...... all powertrain.
KEP 72

Waterford, WI

#7 Sep 17, 2011
UAW wrote:
<quoted text>
Its coming in the new contract...... all powertrain.
Yea so what, they closed my powertrain down. Now work at a parts plant. SUCK IT UP TRENTON !!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!
XTEP

Chesterfield, MO

#8 Sep 17, 2011
KEP 72 wrote:
That's what they agreed to for that engine work, suck it up. They offered that engine to Kenosha first and we agreed, but Trenton got it. Now they're whineing. But I'm glad Kenosha didn't get it, because now I have a easier job and normal shift at another plant with full seniority. Life is good. SUCK IT UP TRENTON !!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !!!!!!!!!!
When that 3.5 aluminum block was moved from Trenton to Kenosha, and you guys dropped the ball, that pretty much ended any chance Kenosha had of getting another engine. Face it guy Kenosha was the worst plant in power train; we would have been better off giving that 3.5 to Mound Road and closing Kenosha.
The Truth

Taylor, MI

#9 Sep 17, 2011
XTEP wrote:
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When that 3.5 aluminum block was moved from Trenton to Kenosha, and you guys dropped the ball, that pretty much ended any chance Kenosha had of getting another engine. Face it guy Kenosha was the worst plant in power train; we would have been better off giving that 3.5 to Mound Road and closing Kenosha.
a shout out to good ole Mound Road, hell yeah
KEP 72

Waterford, WI

#10 Sep 17, 2011
XTEP wrote:
<quoted text>
When that 3.5 aluminum block was moved from Trenton to Kenosha, and you guys dropped the ball, that pretty much ended any chance Kenosha had of getting another engine. Face it guy Kenosha was the worst plant in power train; we would have been better off giving that 3.5 to Mound Road and closing Kenosha.
Then why were we rated one of the top in powertrain in cost and quality and our people came to work everyday. The only reason Kenosha was closed was location and International union politics. If Marc Stepp was still in the International we might of had a chance. But like I said, SUCK IT UP TRENTON!!!!!!! have fun working those killer shifts. HOLLIJOLLY did me a favor for closing our plant.
TEP62

Riverview, MI

#11 Sep 18, 2011
That's right guys!! Keep fighting with each other, that's what management loves to see! The union needs to be brought to task about the closed door agreements they made concerning the work rules and senority rights. How about how they stripped the trades of their jobs, but handed them production jobs instead. The swing shift, as it is being utilized is not how it was represented to the membership.
TEP62

Riverview, MI

#12 Sep 18, 2011
If Dundee can strike, does that mean Trenton Engine can strike if they feel it necessary?
KEP 72

Waterford, WI

#13 Sep 18, 2011
TEP62 wrote:
If Dundee can strike, does that mean Trenton Engine can strike if they feel it necessary?
We can vote to strike but we can't strike. No one can strike
cpop

United States

#14 Sep 18, 2011
This type of work is not meant for a life long career. When working at UPS they busted our asses just like this, there is no way you could have made a career out of it. We used the job to save enough money, quit, and finished a college degree. Remember to pick the right type of degree that's all. Or maybe start a home business.
TEP62

Riverview, MI

#15 Sep 18, 2011
That's what I thought about the strike issue. Like an empty threat.
TEP62

Riverview, MI

#16 Sep 18, 2011
KEP72 Don't be so quick to judge all the workers at TEP. The majority of the workers do what they are hired to do and show up gladly to do it. The problems at the plant concerning the schedule and some of the work rules could have been avoided if they were presenteed honestly to the people by the management and union officials who made the origial presentation. Unfotunately what things turned out to be isn't what was agreed to.
TEAM MEMBER

Howell, MI

#17 Sep 18, 2011
KEP 72 wrote:
<quoted text>We can vote to strike but we can't strike. No one can strike
When it comes to Health and Safety yes they can. There was no Ergonomic study done to justify this.
Youcan

Arlington, TN

#18 Sep 18, 2011
KEP 72 wrote:
That's what they agreed to for that engine work, suck it up. They offered that engine to Kenosha first and we agreed, but Trenton got it. Now they're whineing. But I'm glad Kenosha didn't get it, because now I have a easier job and normal shift at another plant with full seniority. Life is good. SUCK IT UP TRENTON !!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !!!!!!!!!!
Don't laugh all Chrysler plants will have alternate work rotation in new contract hahahhah
TEP62

Riverview, MI

#19 Sep 18, 2011
Youcan, You are probably right about the rotating shifts. If they put it in all plants they will be sure to force out all the traditinal employees. They will be down to a much cheaper labor force and retires have always been sitting ducks for losing benefits, so that will make their costs go down even more. I feel sad that the teir2 people are going to have a lower standard of living even after the traditional people are gone. Doesn't fare well for the next generation, does it?
XTEP

Chesterfield, MO

#20 Sep 18, 2011
TEP62 wrote:
That's right guys!! Keep fighting with each other, that's what management loves to see! The union needs to be brought to task about the closed door agreements they made concerning the work rules and senority rights. How about how they stripped the trades of their jobs, but handed them production jobs instead. The swing shift, as it is being utilized is not how it was represented to the membership.
I was at Trenton for the vote that brought in these work rules, there are no surprises here. This current situation is exactly what they presented to the rank and file and the overwhelming vote was yes. This is also why I now work for another company.

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