skilled trades ratification 1264

skilled trades ratification 1264

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4 real

New Baltimore, MI

#1 Sep 16, 2012
At local 1264 union meeting Sept 16th 2012, a pretty interesting question was posed to the skilled trades committeeman. The question: during the last contract ratification the skilled trades voted down the contract, what reason was given to the international union to why it was voted down By 1264 skilled trades? Was it economics of the negotiated contract or skilled trades language? His comment was that he told them it was skilled trades language. Well either the international union is lying or it's the committeeman. International union stated all locals stated it was due to economics of the agreement, this committeeman stated other wise under oath at the union meeting. Who's lying????
skilled trades

United States

#2 Sep 16, 2012
Mr. Wittig probably told international the reason he said at the local meeting. And I don't believe he is doing a very good job. With that said our president and shop chair told them it wa money related so they wouldn't get Bobbys brother in trouble. He is Asst. Regional Director. And Pecoraro is a moron and will Di anything to increase his chances of going downtown.
skilled trades

United States

#3 Sep 16, 2012
Ray and Bobby are both morons. And remember they are both Non production and we can see how that department is. All I have to remind you is the name Renee Davis
lol

Midland, MI

#4 Sep 16, 2012
Yes, I have to agree, they are morons!
the skidmarked undies

Riverside, IL

#5 Sep 17, 2012
They are not morons!!! They are very nice people who cant just cater to your every entitled wants. Get over yourselves you pathetic little crybabies!!!
1st skilled trades ssp

Midland, MI

#6 Sep 17, 2012
What mistake we made. How in the world was this guy a steward for 3 terms and now as a committee man is a complete failure. He doesn't know the language he doesn't know the work in the building. He doesn't answer his phone or call back at least. He can't even get pay shortage correct or frivolous absences removed. Maybe if he stop watching porn and movies during work , he would have a clue. Never see this spineless fool on the floor! We are not represented. Many of us regret voting for him now! Man we miss Razz! Hope Razz runs again! He might have been a little rough but got results and management never really screwed with us.
pants on the ground

Midland, MI

#7 Sep 17, 2012
the skidmarked undies wrote:
They are not morons!!! They are very nice people who cant just cater to your every entitled wants. Get over yourselves you pathetic little crybabies!!!
Lmfao, hey moron if they are entitled then they are not crybabies. They just want what's coming to them. And if the leadership can't provide it or understand that then they are morons. Did u go to the meeting and listen to them? Ever listen to ray talk? Or bob? Well let's just say our chances would be better with a crack head!
lmfao

Midland, MI

#8 Sep 17, 2012
Hey I love the name it fits so good. WITTIDIOT! HAHAHHAHA !!!!!! HE WAS AN IDIOT AS A STEWARD!!! U skilled trades deserve what u voted for. Lmfao
the skidmarked undies

Naperville, IL

#10 Sep 17, 2012
You all have a SENSE of entitlement!!!! Youre owed nothing. You need to.learn how to comprehend what u read so I dont have to post a second time to explain to u like a 2 year old would need to be. Fricken moron. Tell me where u work and ill come down there and explain anything else with my fists you retard.
lmfao

Milford, MI

#12 Sep 17, 2012
[QUOLmfaoTE who="the skidmarked undies"]You all have a SENSE of entitlement!!!! Youre owed nothing. You need to.learn how to comprehend what u read so I dont have to post a second time to explain to u like a 2 year old would need to be. Fricken moron. Tell me where u work and ill come down there and explain anything else with my fists you retard.
Lmfao, meet u at the local at three u sissy
dis sucks

Royal Oak, MI

#13 Sep 17, 2012
This committeeman (wittidiot) really sucks! There so many violation going on ! Y in the world did some of us let some of u guys on second talk many of us into voting for him. We had an outstanding rep and kicked him out. There is a lot of us regretting it. Wittidiot can't stop from telling lies and blaming everyone else! Man I wish I could move to another plant. This guy can't even take care of simple things! Wow what a difference from him to Razz. It's night and day. The worse part about it is that management knows it and is just walking all over Wittidiot. Skilled trades reps at other locations are laughing at him. Wtf hey first shift skilled trades I hope he (Razz) runs again. This is a very sorry skilled trades committeeman we have now!
skilled trades

United States

#14 Sep 17, 2012
Razz is not the answer either. John sucks. Why would we put back in a guy that's there for himself and money. That's why he left TTC. MONEY! Got down there by helping structure consolidation of classifications classes. Sat up there with Ted Street and said this is a good idea. REMEMBER? He will leave us again if given the chance. Let's try Dale Robinson. He was committeeman at Twinsburg.
Opps

Allen Park, MI

#15 Sep 17, 2012
No worry Doug Rice is on the job.
conceened skilled trades

Plymouth, MI

#16 Sep 17, 2012
Well, I'm not from ssp but was very involved with all the language and watched /listened Razz tear up the international over the consolidation. He got in their ass about the structure. As I recall Razz was the one that convinced the union and company to have three classifications and argued there must be lines of demarcation. Out of all the committeeman at the time he was the only one who had the nuts to stand up to the union and company. I think u should do some research before u give reasons to y he left a good paying job. Razz is not a yes man, I know one thing he didn't stop fighting for all the trades when he was there. Maybe u should ask him y he left. Rice didn't want him around and some others cuz he was always fighting for the right things. I think he left cuz hes not a yes man and he realized that's all that's there.

As for just in it for the money, he's a millwright and I've been in the business for almost 20 years and my father for 42 as a millwrigjt , they make top monies every year at all uaw facilitlies (Chrysler, GM, ford). So I don't think that's true either, plus his entire family owns busineses. And for that other person ur talking about is nothing more then "I agree with whatever u say", just listen to him when hes around. During the closing of twinsburg Razz was the one who fought the language and won to get his own guys back that were laid off first, when twinsburg was fighting to get their guys into the two stamping plant before the laid off ones at their home plant, which twinsburg committeeman knew but was trying to get himself a job. Ask the welders he screwed cuz he knew people downtown.
ssp

Tulsa, OK

#17 Sep 17, 2012
Before you say dale do your homework
jnap

Plymouth, MI

#18 Sep 17, 2012
I agree with concerned skilled trades! I was there and watched it happen. We would love to have Razz as our committeeman!
foundry

Plymouth, MI

#19 Sep 17, 2012
Dats for sure Dale screwed us!
ssp also

Plymouth, MI

#20 Sep 17, 2012
Razz is the person for the job! Regardless what u think of how rough he's around the edge. I want someone like him and not a yes man! For the money u say, well we are all here for that!
Ummmm

Allen Park, MI

#21 Sep 17, 2012
Complain all you want, what you going to do about it? Again.......what you going to do about it? Until the constitution for UAW gets changed to allow voting for top dogs nothing will change. Greg from soldiers of solidarity has been trying for years...again what you going to do about it? General ended the area wide meetings three years ago to keep a potential threat in line, because it was coming. Remember this site is entertainment ....nothing more. Talk to your local President or committee person and ask if locals still meet up? Short answer, no.
ssp also

Plymouth, MI

#22 Sep 18, 2012
skilled trades wrote:
Razz is not the answer either. John sucks. Why would we put back in a guy that's there for himself and money. That's why he left TTC. MONEY! Got down there by helping structure consolidation of classifications classes. Sat up there with Ted Street and said this is a good idea. REMEMBER? He will leave us again if given the chance. Let's try Dale Robinson. He was committeeman at Twinsburg.
In it for himself , hmmmm..... Just admit it already we.fudged up! And I was at.that meeting and all he did was pass the Mic around so WE could speak our concerns!! Corporate and downtown rolled out the new language. We voted that bullshit in during a time when it was do.or die in 2009! REMEMBER! REMEMBER when we all almost lost our jobs!

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