JNAP to get new work
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Since: Feb 10

Lancaster, OH

#1 Feb 22, 2010
Too bad the jobs will be filled with $14.00 per hour people! The President of local 12 Bruce Baumhower told WTVG here in Toledo that "Jeep has about 250 people on lay off right now so this could mean we will be adding hundreds of new hires"!!!!!!
So tell me the International Union is not selling the rank an file down the drain. The Toledo Jeep plant has had the best of both worlds for far to long. They can take our jobs outside of Jeep but because they are not part of the National Contract nobody can transfer to Jeep. Back in the 80's Jeep workers transferred to TMP when our workers where out on the street. Now when Jeep might be hiring we will not be able to get one of those jobs. Oups that is not true, there is a way to go to Jeep, you can fill out an application. If they hire you you will have to give up your good paying Chrysler job and and take a $14.00 dollar per hour job. This will be the same for the Dundee Engine plant. Lets see the UAW holds a 67% stake in Chrysler and if Chrysler goes under they will be out Billions so my question is when do we, the Rank an File take back the Union? I say if this does happen every laid off Chrysler employee needs to sue the UAW and Chrysler in a class action suit!!!!
Link to the story
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/video...
straight-talk-n

Toledo, OH

#2 Feb 23, 2010
Laid off TMP worker wrote:
Too bad the jobs will be filled with $14.00 per hour people! The President of local 12 Bruce Baumhower told WTVG here in Toledo that "Jeep has about 250 people on lay off right now so this could mean we will be adding hundreds of new hires"!!!!!!
So tell me the International Union is not selling the rank an file down the drain. The Toledo Jeep plant has had the best of both worlds for far to long. They can take our jobs outside of Jeep but because they are not part of the National Contract nobody can transfer to Jeep. Back in the 80's Jeep workers transferred to TMP when our workers where out on the street. Now when Jeep might be hiring we will not be able to get one of those jobs. Oups that is not true, there is a way to go to Jeep, you can fill out an application. If they hire you you will have to give up your good paying Chrysler job and and take a $14.00 dollar per hour job. This will be the same for the Dundee Engine plant. Lets see the UAW holds a 67% stake in Chrysler and if Chrysler goes under they will be out Billions so my question is when do we, the Rank an File take back the Union? I say if this does happen every laid off Chrysler employee needs to sue the UAW and Chrysler in a class action suit!!!!
Link to the story
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/video...
Okay Mr. TMP. First of all you need to go back to 6th grade for grammar lessons but that is the least of the problem. You can thank your wonderful Ron Middlefinger for your inability to transfer to TNAP not JNAP. Many years ago, You people did not want us worthless Jeep employees under the umbrella of your pretty little national contract. To be honest with you, your dead weight asses could not handle working on an assembly line doing REAL work. We don't push buttons and sit there watching a machine do all the work. We do the work ourselves. Can you comprehend the words? Work ourselves. Furthermore, You would bring a whole lot of problems to Jeep because you would think you are in charge. We have management people from St. Louis who can't find their backside with both hands and you would fit right in with them. Therefore, not only are you not allowed here, according to your national contract, we do not want you here. Just like you people did not want us worthless Jeep employees under your little umbrella of the national contract. Therefore, my advice to you, keep you dead weight, worthless ass at TMP.(long live the Jeep)

Since: Feb 10

Lancaster, OH

#3 Feb 23, 2010
Wow OK then please explain why we have former Jeep workers at our plant then? Sorry for calling it JNAP it is Toledo North Assembly Plant or TNAP, what was I thinking. I don't think I attacked the Jeep worker did I? I know a lot of you guys, most not all are very hard working people, that take pride in their work. As do most but not all TMP workers! My beef is with the Union and Company for allowing this division to continue! As far as not being able to handle the work, sorry but most of us would do just fine there. We do have our fair share of slugs just like you do at TNAP (I got it right this time!). So far we have not had anyone go postal over here! As far as the "sixth grade for grammar lessons" I'll set those up for both of us tell me when you are available.
straight-talk-n

Toledo, OH

#4 Feb 23, 2010
Laid off TMP worker wrote:
Wow OK then please explain why we have former Jeep workers at our plant then? Sorry for calling it JNAP it is Toledo North Assembly Plant or TNAP, what was I thinking. I don't think I attacked the Jeep worker did I? I know a lot of you guys, most not all are very hard working people, that take pride in their work. As do most but not all TMP workers! My beef is with the Union and Company for allowing this division to continue! As far as not being able to handle the work, sorry but most of us would do just fine there. We do have our fair share of slugs just like you do at TNAP (I got it right this time!). So far we have not had anyone go postal over here! As far as the "sixth grade for grammar lessons" I'll set those up for both of us tell me when you are available.
You can continue your beef with the union and company. What they did was they made a one time deal/offer to laidoff people at the old Jeep Plant. Sorry that you still have some misinfomation but at that time it was against contractual language to bring other workers in if you have people currently laid off on the street who held call-back rights. So when these Jeep workers came to TMP there were no laid off workers with call back rights. These events happened sometime in late 1988 to 1993 era. Because in 1993 Jeep started hiring from the street. So as I have stated before your beef is with Ron Middlefinger and the wonderful Chrysler Corporation. It isn't anything about what any Jeep hourly worker has done we where just trying to feed our family and keep a roof over our heads. So do not be slamming the work force when it is the Union and Company who are in bed together.

Since: Feb 10

Lancaster, OH

#5 Feb 23, 2010
straight-talk-n wrote:
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You can continue your beef with the union and company. What they did was they made a one time deal/offer to laidoff people at the old Jeep Plant. Sorry that you still have some misinfomation but at that time it was against contractual language to bring other workers in if you have people currently laid off on the street who held call-back rights. So when these Jeep workers came to TMP there were no laid off workers with call back rights. These events happened sometime in late 1988 to 1993 era. Because in 1993 Jeep started hiring from the street. So as I have stated before your beef is with Ron Middlefinger and the wonderful Chrysler Corporation. It isn't anything about what any Jeep hourly worker has done we where just trying to feed our family and keep a roof over our heads. So do not be slamming the work force when it is the Union and Company who are in bed together.
No sorry but you are wrong my friend, I know first hand that we had people laid off with recall rights and by Brother-in-law was one of over 180 that where on lay off when Jeep workers came to our plant! So sorry you are the one with the "misinformation" BTW there is an "r" in misinformation ;).

But look I truly was not slamming any Jeep workers, like you said they where only tiring to put food on their table. Just like I am only tiring to put food on my table. The only difference is I will not do it at the cost on a working Union Brother, that is why I would not work overtime when people in my department were on lay off. To bad I was the only one in my department that cared about the people under me.
Toledo Jeep

Toledo, OH

#6 Feb 23, 2010
Workers from close shops will be allowed to enter Tnap and they will keep their pay...but they will get day 1 bid rights. We are not going to have another Kenosha situation again.
UAW4LIFE

Chicago, IL

#7 Feb 23, 2010
When BAP went from 1 shift to 3 shifts they allowed employees from TNAP to transfer to BAP. Its funny that no one is allowed to go there tho
Toledo Jeep

Toledo, OH

#8 Feb 23, 2010
UAW4LIFE wrote:
When BAP went from 1 shift to 3 shifts they allowed employees from TNAP to transfer to BAP. Its funny that no one is allowed to go there tho
These were laid off workers and Chrysler needed people. You will also notice they were NOT allowed to come back to Toledo when they got laid off at BAP!! They gave up their rights for call back!! What happened when BAP went back to 1 shift? They were on the street!! SOme may never get called back to work. Even if Toledo needs workers they can not come back because they signed papers giving up all rights to work inToledo again. It was a one time deal. Again the International Union agrees to this. Toledo people are only allowed to go when the company needs them....only when the company needs something does the International give in!!
Toledo Jeep

Toledo, OH

#9 Feb 23, 2010
Do not say no one is allowed to come here...We have had people laid off for years!! Who really has wnated to come to Toledo when they had jobs at their home shop? No one wanted to come when we were building more product then anyone else in a 100 year old building with leaking roof and rats and roaches big enough to take your lunch!! Tell the whole story about why our workers went to Bap.

Since: Oct 08

Toledo, OH

#10 Feb 24, 2010
I remember the rats Toledo Jeep!!! They'd run around the Jeep Pkwy parking lot in the winter and go through the garbage cans by the gates...Use to freak me out!! LOL!!!
Mil

Frisco, TX

#11 Feb 24, 2010
Sounds like some bs to me! Y wud 1 plant have special rules? Don't they make the liberty there? Hopefully they get better product in there anyway!
X_DCXR

Macon, GA

#12 Feb 24, 2010
Mil wrote:
Sounds like some bs to me! Y wud 1 plant have special rules? Don't they make the liberty there? Hopefully they get better product in there anyway!
They had different rules at one time because Jeep was taken in by Chrysler when they merged/took over AMC back in the late 80's. Just ask all the Kenosha people about all the hoops they had to jump thru to keep their jobs. Lots of them had to commute to BAP for years.
UAW4LIFE

United States

#13 Feb 24, 2010
In my opinion if TNAP has there own agreement then they should not be allowed to transfer to plants under the National Agreement. We might as well let people from GM transfer here too. Didn't you guys outsource paint and body?
UAW94

AOL

#14 Feb 24, 2010
UAW4LIFE wrote:
In my opinion if TNAP has there own agreement then they should not be allowed to transfer to plants under the National Agreement. We might as well let people from GM transfer here too. Didn't you guys outsource paint and body?
Yes their bodyshop and paint shop are outsourced. No I wouldn't think they should be able to come here either. They wanted out of our contract, they voted on it. It would be the same as GM coming.

Since: May 09

Belvidere, IL

#15 Feb 24, 2010
They did not let St.Louis North/South come to Toledo to work.
adub

Toledo, OH

#16 Feb 24, 2010
when are these products coming? IS tnap getting shap products?? And what considerd core and non core jobs at jeep since they are not coverd in the inter national contract??
Toledo Jeep

Toledo, OH

#17 Feb 24, 2010
UAW94 wrote:
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Yes their bodyshop and paint shop are outsourced. No I wouldn't think they should be able to come here either. They wanted out of our contract, they voted on it. It would be the same as GM coming.
Do your homework..we were never allowed to join your union we tried for a long time!! They never considered Toledo an asset! We never got out of something we were never in!
Toledo Jeep

Toledo, OH

#18 Feb 24, 2010
Why should people come to Toledo when we have had laid off people for years?? We still have 220 on the street, some of them going on 3 years. You want to come to toledo, ask your own reps. why you can't. When we start hiring come on over and we will all make some money together.
JIMBOB

Temperance, MI

#19 Feb 24, 2010
When Chrysler purchased AMC/Renault the local did try to join the national , but they were turned down. The reason for this is that at the time Chrysler was bringing back its workers and they {the national} didn't want LAID OFF AMC workers to bump into their plants.

So yes we tried to join the national and were turned down.
JIMBOB

Temperance, MI

#20 Feb 24, 2010
The Wrangler Bodyshop and Paintshop are outsourced. TNAPs as of right now are not, but who knows what the future holds.

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