Profit sharing numbers out

Profit sharing numbers out

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Greg Bowers

Cary, IL

#1 Jan 16, 2013
We're getting 5000!!!! YES!!!!

Since: Jul 11

Southfield, MI

#2 Jan 16, 2013
How can profit sharing numbers possibly be figured when the quarterly results haven't even been announced yet? Ugh, you guys...
Yep

Huntington, IN

#3 Jan 16, 2013
Greg Bowers wrote:
We're getting 5000!!!! YES!!!!
I heard from someone pretty well connected who has been right about things like getting the Second Half Signing Bonus in December and according to others he also knew the amount last profit signing would be for Tier 1s before anyone else. He said expect between $2500-$3000 b4 taxes. I am not claiming to know for sure but I havent heard anything or seen anything on the profit sharing formula which is basically like 1k per billion that would make me think 5k. I know we had almost 800 million profit 3rd quarter. Where did you hear 5k from?
j evans

Akron, OH

#4 Jan 16, 2013
Will these cracked two tiers ever stop
no tiers

Fond Du Lac, WI

#6 Jan 16, 2013
Remember tier 1 next contract, how they love to think there so much better , rather than embracing tier 2 as union brothers . Time to get rid of tiers and be equal .
What

Machesney Park, IL

#9 Jan 17, 2013
Tier 2 wants to be tier 1 but wants to cut tier 1's wages. Be careful what you wish for cause that would be slitting your own throat. Then you will never be tier 1 or make more than you do now. Some people are so selfish that cant see past today
What

Machesney Park, IL

#10 Jan 17, 2013
Tier 2 wont go up if tier 1 goes down. I want to make what you make. I want your wage to go down....doesnt make any sense. Only a moron couldnt see that
uaw joe

Akron, OH

#13 Jan 17, 2013
Pinky wrote:
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After those two post I think you are a very confused individual. Tier 2 wage will never go up to tier 1 wage at present rate. That is true. Tier one wage will go down in order for tier 2 wage to go up. Sergio wants the wages equal. That is how it will be. Have your fun now because you will soon be whining.
like I told u we will strike Before we let that asshole Take food out of our mouths. We aren't concerned About bonuses every week. We are real union workers. U new guys don't know crap about unions. We will show u if u try to cross that picket line. All of u will be laid off in a couple of months anyway
what

Machesney Park, IL

#14 Jan 17, 2013
I am tier 2 stupid. Tier 2 will transition to Tier 1 if we are just patience. You should contemplate ( look it up) stepping away from the pipe. Get a life away from here and maybe you wont be so miserable and ugly. Maybe you are bitter cause your buyout money is gone.
belmike

Beloit, WI

#16 Jan 17, 2013
What. Wow , you have the grammar of an elementary public school drop out. Are you speaking collectively for all tier 2 employees ? You must have put in a lot of foot work to gain this knowledge from each tier 2 employee. So the whole of tier 2 workers would like to see Tier 1 wages "decrease" ? Your logic took a left at pismo beach.
Nobody at any wage level should be wanting anyone's pay to decrease. Ever !! You talk big about being a union worker but no true union worker wants to see any wages come down. Yes the tier 2 workers do indeed have a chance to be brought up to the tier 1 level. At least in wages if not other benefits as well.
I as a tier 1 employee feel very strongly that the tier 2 employees should be allowed into tier 1. At least in wage, other benefits might not work. Wouldn't you like to get to the top of the wage scale ? Why in the world would you be suggesting that tier 1 pay should be lowered ? Lower wages for tier 1 = lower wages for you. Higher wages for tier 1 means the possible chance for higher wages for you also. Go back and work on the grammar and math my friend.
Yep

Huntington, IN

#17 Jan 17, 2013
uaw joe wrote:
<quoted text> like I told u we will strike Before we let that asshole Take food out of our mouths. We aren't concerned About bonuses every week. We are real union workers. U new guys don't know crap about unions. We will show u if u try to cross that picket line.
You are living in a fantasy world. The days of people being afraid to cross a picket line ended decades ago. You'd be lucky if you could get one other person to join you in actually taking action. They will see you get arrested and lose your job in a crap economy and think "wow he lost his job for nothing". And that would have beeen true BEFORE right-to-work passed. Now if you strike they can just hire a non-union worker to do your job and fire you because these are no longer union-protected jobs come next contract. Man I hope if u have a family you will take some time between now and contract time learning a few things so your ignorance doesnt ruin your life and theirs. Delusions of grandeur
Yep

Huntington, IN

#18 Jan 17, 2013
And for anybody else who likes to sit around at lunch all puffy-chested and talk about how nobody would dare cross your picket line just remember when the newspapers went on strike.They were all saying the same thing. Then one guy..count 'em..ONE...actually did something when ppl crossed and threw a brick thru someone's truck window and they hauled his dumbass off to jail and fired him. Nobody else did anything. And that was in a good economy and no right-to-work laws. This isnt On The Waterfront where cops looked the other way and communities supported unions to that extent. Striking would do little good anyway when the jobs no longer have to be union but if for some reason there is one and the company doesnt just laugh and replace you..under no circumstances follow that last idiot into a cell and the unemploment line. Be smart for yourself and your family cause thats what 99% of others will do no matter how tough they talk
Booga King

Fairfax, VA

#19 Jan 17, 2013
Pinky wrote:
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You just shut your trap and keep paying those dues for my bros. You gotta let me now who you are because when I cross the picket line I want to do it right in front of your fat lazyass. Don't worry we won't strike though because the union and company are one now days. Most people are not gonna pay dues after this contract anyway.
Did you not pay attention to what you were hired at wage and benefit wise? You need to go find a new job, this one doesn't fit what your looking for Bye bye
Yep

Huntington, IN

#22 Jan 17, 2013
Gimme a break Belmike...there will never be a $28 top wage again and that is just a fact. And nobody would sacriifice 50k (which is what a $5 raise would amount to over a 4 year contract) on the chance that the next contract brings them to Tier 1 top wage. Marcioni made it clear for the company to remain viable long-term they have to get away from the $28 top wage. You just hope Tier 2 are stupid enough to buy what you are selling so you can protect ur wage for another 4 years. But its all a moot point anyway. Chrysler can hire non-union workers after this contract expires meaning we have zero leverage. If anybody doesnt want to do the job at the wage they are offering they will replace you with a non-union worker. So nobody is getting what they want next contract. The right-to-work laws made strikes and union leverage practically useless because the union wont "own" the jobs any longer and the company can hire whoever they want and negotiate with whoever they want; union or non-union
belmike

Beloit, WI

#25 Jan 17, 2013
If that is true then I suggest we demand an immediate vote to desolve our current union and create a new organization. It can be done. Don't worry, our local should be signed any day now. I'm sure we will have enough fire power in that agreement to protect our wage and work.
belmike

Beloit, WI

#26 Jan 17, 2013
and if the tough guys fall pinky, surely the limp wristed boys will fall too.
Yep

Huntington, IN

#28 Jan 17, 2013
Pinky wrote:
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You're to kind to those dumbasses. I like seeing these tough guys fall. You should be urging them on. They can find out how tough they are sitting in a cell with big bubba.
Trust me I dont say it for his benefit as much as others. I am fortunate that my plant doesnt have much friction between Tier 1 and Tier 2. The majority is Tier 2 anyway and most the Tier 1 have been pretty cool to us from day 1. There were a few idiots that wanted to act like seniority translated into some authoritative role over us like being somewhere longer has anything to do with how smart someone is or cool or good at their job. But some other Tier 1's seem to want their approval and despite being nice ppl I could see them following someone down a stuppid road. I just dont like seeing idiots take decent ppl down with them. The idiots themselves can do what they want after someone tries to tell them better. Thats where my responsibility ends.
Yep

Huntington, IN

#29 Jan 17, 2013
belmike wrote:
If that is true then I suggest we demand an immediate vote to desolve our current union and create a new organization. It can be done. Don't worry, our local should be signed any day now. I'm sure we will have enough fire power in that agreement to protect our wage and work.
Honestly the best thing anyone can do short of hoping the union successfully challenges some of this in court (dont count on it and the way the Michigan legislature works with just needing a simple majority we arent changing it on the legislative level either) is to go into this next contract with realistic expectations. Im sure Chrysler would prefer not to hire large groups and have to retrain them so if its close they would prefer to keep the ppl they got I'd have to believe. But it kills all of us that the job no longer has to be union. That is where all our leverage came from and collective bargaining made it illegal to just fire people on strike. Under Right-to-work they can hire anybody
Yep

Huntington, IN

#30 Jan 17, 2013
LOL...i accidentally hit "p" twice when typing out 'stupid'! DANG..of all the words to have a typo on!
uaw joe

Akron, OH

#31 Jan 17, 2013
Bring It wrote:
<quoted text>not sure what plant your at but here (blp) there's not enough teir 1 to even run one whole shift so no matter what their will always be some here and a "real" union member would NEVER stand against another teir 1,2,3,4,5 er whatever the union is meant for al"all" to stand together as one against the company and get real with the tool advances and ergo restrictions the jobs are being made easier every year and these jobs are getting to the point of being so easy the pay we make no longer fits the work so what you do it 500+ times a night cry me a river unless they bring back cost of living teir 1 will never get a raise again and a "reall" union member would never of voted for us to lose 7 dollars an hour and you threats about crossing the line lmfao most of the new teir 2 are troubled society and you think you over paid spoiled bitches really gonna stand a chance if you piss them off
really sad this is our worst nightmare Becoming reality. Selfish, scared non-union Scabs taking Over our union, listen how they talk, bring the wages down, the picket line doesn't matter anymore. They wont strike. Forget the old guys who paved the way. Shameful. These crackheads will be the death of us. We should have kept the hiring in house and only hired family.

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