new venture gear plant closure

new venture gear plant closure

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wake up

New York, NY

#1 Jan 29, 2008
Magna Powertrain bought New Venture Gear 4 years ago. We are Chrysler employee's leased to Magna Powertrain. Magna Powertrain now wants to close the plant. Can anyone tell me what is offered for a Chrysler plant closure? Do we get more under a plant closing then you would get from the $100,000 VTEP buyout? Thank you much, trying to find out the real deal, as local union seems to be selling us out.
New Gear

Windham, ME

#2 Jan 29, 2008
wake up wrote:
Magna Powertrain bought New Venture Gear 4 years ago. We are Chrysler employee's leased to Magna Powertrain. Magna Powertrain now wants to close the plant. Can anyone tell me what is offered for a Chrysler plant closure? Do we get more under a plant closing then you would get from the $100,000 VTEP buyout? Thank you much, trying to find out the real deal, as local union seems to be selling us out.
They wont close the plant. They are only preparing for the announcement that wages will be cut in half. When we see that our choices are 15$ an hour or no job at all, we'll take the fifteen. Or the buyout, I'm taking the buyout.
stamping95

AOL

#3 Jan 29, 2008
no you will get a buyout and a job offer at a lower wage to stay and work. that what happened in new castle indiana when if was bought by metaldyne.
Mack the knife

AOL

#5 Jan 30, 2008
Kokomo Casting 3rd tier supplier is next
tgrlily

New York, NY

#6 Jan 30, 2008
"wake up" posted this this morning, but it's not showing up....

Magna intends to close the plant whether you vote yes for the wage cut or not. So why take a wage cut and not fall under a plant closing under Chrysler. Seems like you would be losing out on alot of money and benefits if you were to approve the new contract and stay with Magna instead of Chyrsler. A no vote would put us under chyrsler's plant closing rules. Does anyone know the plant closing language?
Hmmm

Waukegan, IL

#7 Jan 31, 2008
yes, you lose your job and then - go across the country and take someone elses. all in the name of unity.
New Gear

Windham, ME

#8 Feb 4, 2008
I heard that there should be a ratification vote very soon.
New Gear

Windham, ME

#9 Feb 4, 2008
KLS slps

Saint Louis, MO

#10 Feb 4, 2008
Hmmm wrote:
yes, you lose your job and then - go across the country and take someone elses. all in the name of unity.
Unfortunately thats the way it works. Thats why I was laid off. 300 people came from a closed plant in another state 2 years ago. alot of us would have made the cut when they closed our second shift here. But we cant take our seniority with us to another plant unless ours is totally closed.
carla

Utica, NY

#11 Feb 4, 2008
There are quite a few of us that might leave N.P.G soon,I still dont know what plants we will be going to!We will see what happens with our new contract if it ever gets voted on.
big mistake

Fort Atkinson, WI

#12 Feb 4, 2008
took the transfer out here to Illinois from NVG two years ago and it was a huge mistake. Now just waiting on the buy out to be able to go back which doesnt look like it will happen anytime soon. They promised this plant was in good standing and we have been closed and shut down at least monthly. Be carefull if you take a transfer on what you are actually getting into.
Hmmm

United States

#13 Feb 5, 2008
KLS slps wrote:
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Unfortunately thats the way it works. Thats why I was laid off. 300 people came from a closed plant in another state 2 years ago. alot of us would have made the cut when they closed our second shift here. But we cant take our seniority with us to another plant unless ours is totally closed.
I know - but it still sucks! I don't have any problem with someone transfering to keep their job, but what makes me mad is when they have all too convenient layoffs to coincide with transfers. This happened in kokomo to production, and is still happening to trades. And when we get laid off we can't take our senoirity elsewhere, it would have to be day one, while others bring all their time. I know its the way it is - but that doesn't mean I have to like it!(whine, whine, whine):)
New Gear

Windham, ME

#14 Feb 7, 2008
Sounds like we may hear something tomorrow.
been there done that

AOL

#16 Feb 8, 2008
Hmmm wrote:
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I know - but it still sucks! I don't have any problem with someone transfering to keep their job, but what makes me mad is when they have all too convenient layoffs to coincide with transfers. This happened in kokomo to production, and is still happening to trades. And when we get laid off we can't take our senoirity elsewhere, it would have to be day one, while others bring all their time. I know its the way it is - but that doesn't mean I have to like it!(whine, whine, whine):)
I sympathize with your situation. I never wanted any to lose their job. I also think that if you come in this situation, because your plant closed, and had no plant to return to, you too would want them to afford you this protection, wouldn't you? Unfortunately, Kokomo has done all that is possible to keep these people out. They have made no bones about it either! This is failure to represent union people no matter how you think. Let us hope that these other plants that will most likely be in this potions soon, don't do this to future members! Bottom line is my friend, when we hire in to a union shop, all we have is our seniority and the contract they get for us. We need to keep them to it, for all involved, not just ourselves. Isn't this what union means? Whining is good sometimes.
been there done that

AOL

#18 Feb 9, 2008
Bush wrote:
<quoted text>UAW sucker!ha ha ha .!
I have always wonder why people that have NOTHING are always wishing bad on those who do. Hummm....????
kokomo wife

South Bend, IN

#19 Feb 9, 2008


yes i agree with you been there done that but the fact of the matter is the people were told that if those plants were taken into their union no one would replace some laidoff they woild only come and bring their time with them if the factory was in hiring mode and because of that lie my husband is laidoff now if you were in our situation how fair would that be. i think older people should be took care of but no need to lie to anyone.but if i were you i would probably feel the same way as you.as you can see i am on the side of the coin
autoworker

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#20 Feb 10, 2008
kokomo wife wrote:
yes i agree with you been there done that but the fact of the matter is the people were told that if those plants were taken into their union no one would replace some laidoff they woild only come and bring their time with them if the factory was in hiring mode and because of that lie my husband is laidoff now if you were in our situation how fair would that be. i think older people should be took care of but no need to lie to anyone.but if i were you i would probably feel the same way as you.as you can see i am on the side of the coin
Proteected status workers from closed/sold plants in most cases did fill attritional openings that had been banked. I filled a job last year in a dept for a worker who took a vtep one week before I started. I sat home for 2 years waiting for that opening-. The layoffs that occurred six months after I started work are unfortunate, but are in no way connected to the job I filled. The blame is on the poor decisons made at the Corp level. If your husband hangs onto his recall rights (most are giving up and taking the 100K) and just waits it out, he can have my job when I retire in about 5 years.
new gear

Windham, ME

#21 Feb 10, 2008
Hand bill monday, the contract is settled. Details tomorrow.
Also been there

Louisville, KY

#22 Feb 10, 2008
kokomo wife wrote:
yes i agree with you been there done that but the fact of the matter is the people were told that if those plants were taken into their union no one would replace some laidoff they woild only come and bring their time with them if the factory was in hiring mode and because of that lie my husband is laidoff now if you were in our situation how fair would that be. i think older people should be took care of but no need to lie to anyone.but if i were you i would probably feel the same way as you.as you can see i am on the side of the coin
You can Thank you're Local 685 Union Officials for you husband and other Kokomo people getting laidoff. If they would have not tried pulling their little games to keep closed/sold plant people out, then corporate wouldn't have to straighten out the deals that local Union Officials and Local Management cooked up together to try to keep closed/sold plant people out. Kokomo has lost over 3,000 jobs since last contract. If the deal with Getrag goes through, then at the end of this contract, your husband will either take the $14.00 job with Getrag or transfer to another Chrysler facility and then he will get a taste of what it is like to have those places try to keep him out. What goes around, comes around.
newgear

Windham, ME

#23 Feb 11, 2008
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