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John C

United States

#1 Aug 6, 2006
1. Automatic door locks are driving me nuts. Please GM, find a way to disable these!

2. LATCH child restraint system should have been put on all back seats. It looks like it's been put on in a hit-or-miss fashion. Third row seat has only one top tether anchor for the entire seat, and no lower anchors at all. Second row 60/40 seat has only two lower anchors (right & center), so if the right side is used, it blocks entry to the 3rd row seats.
John Hendrick

Kabul, Afghanistan

#2 Aug 19, 2006
Where is the Duramax Suburban diesel?
Don't tell me about the American automobile woes when a company does a total redesign of a vehicle (2007 Suburban) and then says that the Duramax diesel engine won't fit. I thought that was always a purpose of redesigning.
Frank C

Belleville, NJ

#3 Aug 25, 2006
John Hendrick wrote:
Where is the Duramax Suburban diesel?
Don't tell me about the American automobile woes when a company does a total redesign of a vehicle (2007 Suburban) and then says that the Duramax diesel engine won't fit. I thought that was always a purpose of redesigning.
Most who order the Duramax also order the Allison transmission. It's a great combination. A friend bought a GMC 3500 dualie with the Duramax and Allison to tow his new Sonic 386. The Allison is a big transmission. It won't fit under a Suburban unless the ride height is increased. That's a major minus for women who aren't fond of high step-in vehicles. It's also a minus for handling, roll-overs, etc. I'm guessing that the tranny size had something to do with that decision. That said, it's still a bad decision. There must be a way to fit a diesel in the light truck chassis. GM probably figures most mommies don't want to mess around with a diesel and finding diesel fuel.
Frank C

Belleville, NJ

#4 Aug 25, 2006
Arghhhh. Bloomfield? Like heck! Topix, get rid of that stupid feature.
Bridget

Beulaville, NC

#5 Sep 16, 2006
John C wrote:
2. LATCH child restraint system should have been put on all back seats. It looks like it's been put on in a hit-or-miss fashion. Third row seat has only one top tether anchor for the entire seat, and no lower anchors at all. Second row 60/40 seat has only two lower anchors (right & center), so if the right side is used, it blocks entry to the 3rd row seats.
This is my biggest gripe and why we won't be purchasing a 2007 this year. We are hoping that they will fix this in 2008, but I'm not holding my breath. I called to complain, and got some clueless person in India that I had to explain several times what LATCH was and why they had a problem in the vehicle....not too happy.

Anyway, what were they thinking? With gas prices the way they are (or could be worse in the future), the mpg, etc....they should be catering to more people who not only need to tow...but actually need to seat 8-9 people (growing families). They really missed the boat with only offering 2 LATCH spots...and one of those if used blocks the entry to the 3rd row. Tether anchors should be available for all 6 back seats. Are the engineers that stupid? Where was marketing in the process, how did everyone in this design process miss the lack LATCH and tethers for families? The vehicle can certainly carry handle up to 6 carseats and/or booster seats....they just had very poor planning. Scares me what else they might have messed up that I don't see.

Anyway, they need to take a clue from Ford, Toyota, and Honda and offer at least 3-4 LATCH positions in the Suburban. I would like to see 3 in the 3rd row, and 3 in the 2nd row personally....give us some options on where to fit the carseats, booster seats, etc. If they do that for 2008+ I think they will see sales increase to large families....otherwise many moms on other parenting boards are writing it off for other vehicles.

BTW, for anyone wondering why this is an issue and there might be a need for a lot of families with 3-4 kids to have 4-6 LATCH positions and tethers.....Most carseats have LATCH now and it is a much easier and usually a more secure install (this usually means safer install....seatbelt installs have more room for error). Most states require kids to be in a car or booster seat till at least 6 & 60pds, many now require up to 8 & 80pds. While many boosters can be used with a seatbelt, the safest boosters are those with a 5pt harness and secured like infant and convertible carseats. The only 4 I know about that go up to 60-80pds (there may be more, not sure) are the Britax Husky, Safeguard Safe seat, Safeguard Go Booster, and the Radian seat. Anyway, if you have several kids from infant to age 8, not to mention a friend or two...you are looking at a Suburban full of carseats and boosters, hence the concern over LATCH and tethers, or lack thereof.

If you found this informative and have the time, please call or email Chevy to complain on this safety issue and urge them to put LATCH and tethers on all 6 rear seats in 2008. Thanks!
William W

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#6 Sep 16, 2006
I own a 2003 Suburban 2500 with a big block engine (8100) and Auto Ride. Best truck i have ever had.Does anyone know if these features are in the plan for the this new model?
Lacey

Scarborough, ME

#7 Oct 17, 2006
Rumor has is that in 2008 there will be Diesel Suburbans. Has anyone else heard this?
Nuts too

Littleton, CO

#8 Nov 1, 2006
Has anyone figured out how to diable the auto locks?
Or how to diabble the dinging that occurs if you are not locked into your seatbelt. I live in an environment where I often drive 15 miles per hour or less and stop to get out frequently. I can't stand it!
RoGuE

Buford, GA

#9 Nov 3, 2006
Read the manual. We have a 2002 and to disable the autoloacks you have to put the key in a certain position and then mess around with the window switches somehow.
TONY

United States

#10 Nov 7, 2006
Lacey wrote:
Rumor has is that in 2008 there will be Diesel Suburbans. Has anyone else heard this?
GM told me via email that they are going ahead w/ the Suburban Diesel summer 07 as an 2008 model.
Joe

Lebanon, OR

#11 Nov 15, 2006
William W wrote:
I own a 2003 Suburban 2500 with a big block engine (8100) and Auto Ride. Best truck i have ever had.Does anyone know if these features are in the plan for the this new model?
It doesn't look like they will. The 8100 is a big block, but it only has 330 hp, while the new 6000 has 366 hp. But at the same time, the big block is bigger, so it won't get as good mpg as the small block. So there's no point in putting it in.
Kevin

Tucson, AZ

#12 Dec 9, 2006
TONY wrote:
<quoted text>GM told me via email that they are going ahead w/ the Suburban Diesel summer 07 as an 2008 model.
Could you possibly post a copy of the e-mail?
Joel D

Albuquerque, NM

#13 Dec 21, 2006
Nuts too wrote:
Has anyone figured out how to diable the auto locks?
Or how to diabble the dinging that occurs if you are not locked into your seatbelt. I live in an environment where I often drive 15 miles per hour or less and stop to get out frequently. I can't stand it!
Take it to the dealer and they can update the BCM(computer that controlles all the body functions seats, radio, etc) so that you can kill the locks.
Tachyon

Sartell, MN

#14 Dec 29, 2006
John C wrote:
1. Automatic door locks are driving me nuts. Please GM, find a way to disable these!
2. LATCH child restraint system should have been put on all back seats. It looks like it's been put on in a hit-or-miss fashion. Third row seat has only one top tether anchor for the entire seat, and no lower anchors at all. Second row 60/40 seat has only two lower anchors (right & center), so if the right side is used, it blocks entry to the 3rd row seats.
GM can do technology miracles, but they can't make you stop being stupid. Read your owner's manual, the procedure for disabling the auto-locks is listed in the manual.
Kenny

Bellevue, WA

#15 Dec 29, 2006
Bridget wrote:
<quoted text>
This is my biggest gripe and why we won't be purchasing a 2007 this year. We are hoping that they will fix this in 2008, but I'm not holding my breath. I called to complain, and got some clueless person in India that I had to explain several times what LATCH was and why they had a problem in the vehicle....not too happy.
I suspect this is a case where bean counters changed the original design.
Rich

Brookline, MA

#16 Jan 4, 2007
The 2007 Suburban no longer can handle a 4x8 sheet of whatever. The "NEW" & IMPROVED" 2nd row seats stick back one foot when folded up, giving a 4x7 cargo zone. THIS STINKS!!!
Herb

Kearny, NJ

#17 Jan 8, 2007
Rich wrote:
The 2007 Suburban no longer can handle a 4x8 sheet of whatever. The "NEW" & IMPROVED" 2nd row seats stick back one foot when folded up, giving a 4x7 cargo zone. THIS STINKS!!!
Agreed! I went out to sell my 2000 2500 and buy a new 2007 but when I saw the new 2nd seats and how the access throught the 2nd doors was so diminished for loading cargo, I decided I have to keep the 2000. I use my Suburban for work and need that 2nd door cargo access. I can't find a vehicle to replace it with. The closest model is the new Ford Expedition EL, but I don't really like it.
Tim

Hopkins, MN

#18 Jan 8, 2007
I own a 2001 Yukon XL 3/4 ton with the 8.1 liter. The truck has 113,000 miles and I have looked at the new version. Nice upgrades, but engine choices are a joke. The 3/4 ton only is avail with the 6.0 liter gas. No 8.1, no 6.6, and no Duramax. That is plain stupid. I can't even haul my camper with the 6.0 liter. Any ideas on when a better engine choice will be available? If not - Ill keep driving this one. It is a rock solid truck.
Chad

Brookville, PA

#19 Jan 24, 2007
6.0 @ 366 HP vs 8.1 @ 330 Hp.

THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT.

I don't know where the 366 horsepower is (RPM) in the 6.0, but I know it is not available in the rpm range in which I drive. I have driven 4 different 07 model suburbans with the 6.0, 1500(4.10 ratio-LTZ & LT3) and 2500 (3.73 & 4.10 LT3). I cannot get that vehicle to accelerate or otherwise give me the impression that it has any power like my big block. I ran several tests resetting the average MPG on the computer while test driving the vehicles on the interstate. Over a 10 mile run on I-285 around Atlanta, I could not get the trucks to average more than 14 mpg. I get 14.5 on the same stretch of highway with my big block with power sitting in reserve.

Brad H

Worthington, MN

#20 Jan 26, 2007
I bought a 2007 Suburban. If this is supposed to be GM's flagship truck they made a huge mistake. I average size adult has difficulty getting in the 2nd seats. The fuel economy is horrible. I have not seen a tank that averaged better than 14.7 mpg yet. Wind noise is horrible not enough power plug-ins, and gee what else!!! Anyone agree, or am I just blowing hot air?

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